Player Watch Ned Long
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His DE is 64% because he gets 8 touches a game and half of them are 1 metre handballs, what a dumb stat. His kicking efficiency is below that, and if u can’t see he’s a poor kick you are blind.
He averages 4 kicks a game and 2.2 changers
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His deficiencies are obvious and I was surprised we picked him up. Probably just a back up for Mitchell but wasn't up to it
I was more than happy with his work against both teams. We're not finding the BULL we need easily, and he has upside, given he's improved and looked increasingly more comfortable in every game.
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We view him differently.
I'd have to go back to the Tony Shaw years to come up with a regular best 22 Collingwood mid at a level that I think he is a decent chance of getting to - and even then I don't know if I would. I don't think he's even suited to depth. Ideally, we want someone like Crisp playing as back flank and offering us our midfield depth. And thus it would be best to have the depth guys as flankers. If he could play a flank - fair enough, but he's not suited to that.
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Tom Mitchell has this amazing ability where he actually gets his hands on the footy though.
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My question is, which mid playing finals can you see him becoming as good as? For me, it's none. And if not midfield is there another role for him - I don't think there is.
Conor Nash at hawks
- Height: 197 cm Weight: 93 kg; 26 yo
- 96 games across 7 yrs (didn't realise he'd been around this 'long')
- P/game stats: 17 disp; 4 tackles; 1.7 one-%'ers; 0.2 goals, 0.4 GAs
Ned Long (was unlikely to displace Nash or any of the other on-ballers at hawks but he'd be the comparison type)
- Height: 194 cm Weight: 92 kg; 21 yo
- 12 games across 3 yrs (v.'long'-shot for him to make the grade tbh)
- P/game stats: 9 disp; 4.5 tackles; 0.8 one-%'ers; 0.25 goals, 0.4 GAs
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Yeah it's not the leg speed. I'm confident he'd beat Pendles, Sidey and Mitchell in a foot race. But comparisons to their leg speed is silly. It's their weakness that they can still overcome because they think so quickly and so clearly.
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Stats are even closer when compared at the same age.
Ned Long and Conor Nash AFL Stats Comparison
Ned Long and Conor Nash AFL Stats Comparison.
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Caveat always being that Long has played footy for a long time, Nash an Irish recruit who didn't have that luxury.
I only see old Ned as a depth player.
He could drop as low as List clogger, but I saw enough strings to his bow that he can be a handy depth player.
With Pendles, Mitchell, Steak knives, Sidey getting on, can't trust JDG to get through a whole season...
I think Nick could do with a big body like Ned getting to the bottom of packs and tackling
He could drop as low as List clogger, but I saw enough strings to his bow that he can be a handy depth player.
With Pendles, Mitchell, Steak knives, Sidey getting on, can't trust JDG to get through a whole season...
I think Nick could do with a big body like Ned getting to the bottom of packs and tackling
I think Long, Sullivan and Bytel are probably fighting for 1 or at most if we dont get Peatling or Davies 2 spots. There is a chance we delist all 3. Here is my take.
I think the club likes Bytel and will probably retain him. If he cleaned up his disposal I don't mind him. He is a big whipping boy though. Massive tank, big body and he can play a few positions because of this.
Sullivan is small, has slow leg speed and his decision making and his reaction times aren't elite. He is at best average or below average in everything and has no elite traits. Will he get better with another year? Maybe but I doubt the club will let him. However he is clearly the best natural footballer of the 3. Reminds me of J Blair.
Long is slow both with his legs and his decision making. His big strong body doesn't really stand out in terms of clearances at AFL level but it could if we develop him. His field kicking looks poor but his goal kicking looks okay or even good with his superior penetration. Overhead he is okay to good. He has a few AFL traits: strong tackling, good kicking penetration, massive tank and size and good marking. He is also young and could improve alot. But he is clearly the least developed at the moment.
I think the club likes Bytel and will probably retain him. If he cleaned up his disposal I don't mind him. He is a big whipping boy though. Massive tank, big body and he can play a few positions because of this.
Sullivan is small, has slow leg speed and his decision making and his reaction times aren't elite. He is at best average or below average in everything and has no elite traits. Will he get better with another year? Maybe but I doubt the club will let him. However he is clearly the best natural footballer of the 3. Reminds me of J Blair.
Long is slow both with his legs and his decision making. His big strong body doesn't really stand out in terms of clearances at AFL level but it could if we develop him. His field kicking looks poor but his goal kicking looks okay or even good with his superior penetration. Overhead he is okay to good. He has a few AFL traits: strong tackling, good kicking penetration, massive tank and size and good marking. He is also young and could improve alot. But he is clearly the least developed at the moment.
True. Whats our option as an in under mid currently as back up ?
Lachlan Sullivan. Who I thought did alright at times.
People are lumping him with Bytel and Long to be delisted.
Its amusing Adams left us as he wasnt happy with being shuffled behind Mitchell , but he would have been given more midfield minutes this season.
Even more ironic hes now in the firing line to not make the first Final selection
Just IMO. I thought Long is worth keeping too. mid season draft ... did well enough in the 2's, I'm not sure where this thing about delisting him comes about. I might have missed the announcement somewhere?
Bytel on the other hand I was flabbergasted he was getting games. He aint a wingman and he wasn't showing enough at the top level either by skill or the the amount of times I would see at a stoppage him being corrected or reminded to do what he should have done by a team mate was pretty telling.
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Adams will only get to play if Sydney get injuries along the way.
He's not in their best 23.
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sen are saying he's been dropped for this week.
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He wouldn't be in our best 23 either with a fit squad.
Edward has passed him by now. So has Richards. He would have been handy though with Mitchell going down for so long.
He got the longer contract and I'm happy for him.
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He's probably not happy at the moment. Confirmed as omitted
Trade request back to the Pies with a new 3 year deal?He's probably not happy at the moment. Confirmed as omitted
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No deal.
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Nash was being wasted as a forward pocket by Clarkson at the same age when he didn't have the necessary craft to fulfil the role.
He only started playing in the midfield when Sam became the #2 and took over Box Hill.
Ned and Nash are a similar size but the difference in their athletic ability is stark. Nash is lightning quick for a bloke his size +agile and Ned as much as I love him is treacle slow. The slow bull midfielder seems to be a thing of the past these days unless you're a Cripps level player.
Ned is a great runner and has size. Played a bit as a makeshift KPF at times at Box Hill and did quite well. Could he be a back up for Mihocek? Possibly even a tall wingman in the mould of Jones/Wood?
