New Song

[Reginald Perrin]

But you will quickly find another mark, it's in your DNA.

A penchant for criticism, or the ability to identify arse monkeys?

Either way, I admire your optimism that the Steves can change their ways.

 

[Avid_Avenger]

They should have had an open song contest - then voted on the top 10 choices. Would have given more options and allowed people to buy into the process more than just voting between 4 options that were average.

Yeah I agree that there should have been some fan input into the song options, rather than presenting 4 options that didn't hit the mark of what people want in a club song.

For example, they should have nailed down what the issues were with the original via a poll, instead of just assuming it was the dirge at the start and the slow tempo no one liked. I'm pretty sure the lame rap section would have been cut and some new lyrics added about football and premierships if that had happened.

And the EJ song would improve following a similar process that identified what people were concerned about, i.e. can a footballer hold the chorus?

Oh well, guess everybody's not as visonary as you and me

 

[mike91]

Seriously, why are you freo fans so scared of change? Our new jumpers look good and omg the Eskimo Joe song was good, having the new reworked song is beyond pointless, we may aswell not of changed it at all. Face it, that song or even the mighty roar of freo song is BY FAR better, don't get me wrong i don't mind our current song, but omg we needed to change it and our fans need to grow a pair! Plus why did less than half the people vote? wtf is that all about.

 

[Whatname]

Seriously, why are you freo fans so scared of change? Our new jumpers look good and omg the Eskimo Joe song was good, having the new reworked song is beyond pointless, we may aswell not of changed it at all. Face it, that song or even the mighty roar of freo song is BY FAR better, don't get my wrong i dont mind our current song, but omg we needed to change it and our fans need to grow a pair! Plus why did less than half the people vote? wtf is that all about.

Welcome to WA

I admire the steve's having the stones to make changes for the better. While im upset we didnt change the song at least we got a decent jumper.

 

[deep square leg]

I have no opinion of the song, but your club chose a bizarre voting system. In Australia we're all used to preferential voting - having the last ranked candidate removed and preferences redistributed until one candidate has a majority. It's one of the best voting systems in the world, and we're all familiar with it.

However, Freo came up with some sort of bizarre, weighted de-vote system:

The winner was determined by a ranking system that took into account the total of all four preferences after they had been tallied. In accordance with the methodology of the ranking system, the song that polled the lowest number was declared the winner.

The final results in finishing order, with the lowest tally determining the winner, were:

Freo Way To Go, 16,403; Freo Freo, 19,471; the original club song, 23,178 and The Mighty Roar of Freo, 28,088.

It's not preferential at all. It doesn't fix the problem that preferential voting was made to address - splitting votes between like-minded candidates. So if there were two songs that were roughly equally as popular they may have suffered as a result. I can't know this for sure, but it's a very high possibility.

Again, I stress that I have no song opinion and wish you all the best, but from a purely psephological point of view this vote was a farce.

 

[Nickos66]

Well said, I agree. It just doesn't make any sense to do it this way.

 

[mike91]

Welcome to WA

I admire the steve's having the stones to make changes for the better. While im upset we didnt change the song at least we got a decent jumper.

I'm actually from Melbourne, but your exactly right about the Steves.

 

[Whatname]

I'm actually from Melbourne, but your exactly right about the Steves.

I know, was more a dig at how we operate here in the west.
I love the place but when it comes to change, well it's just so scary.

 

[mike91]

I know, was more a dig at how we operate here in the west.
I love the place but when it comes to change, well it's just so scary.

LOL! best call

 

[estibador]

Really though, as long as one of the first 3 get up I really don't care which one wins all that much.

*shakes head*

When will people learn, democracy just does not work.

Meh, whatever, I got my way with the red and green, can't win em all.

 

[Freo Blood]

Dunno what the whining is for. Haven't listened to the Eskimo Joe song, but the reworked original song gets rid of the slow, unsingable parts. What they're left with is okay. Still not gonna sing it though

Basically, a couple teams have songs that you can sing with gusto (Tigers) and most teams don't.

"We've got the Power to win, the Power to roar, come on, Port Adelaide aggression."

Didn't even bother listening to EJ, hopefully u didn't vote.

I actually like the PA song, it makes you want to sing it imo. Our song is pure dog **** and hard to sing. After a couple of listens of the EJ song I could remember the words and the tune stuck in my head.

I only really care about the part that is sung, the rest is irrelevant and never heard.

I defy anyone to sing/shout the lyrics below while following the tune of both as best you can and still believe the original song and lyrics are better - it is an absolute steaming ****. The EJ song has our name, colours, awesome imagery (WHEN THE CUP GOES UP).

Freo way to go
Hit ‘em real hard send ‘em down below
Oh Freo give ‘em the old heave ho
We are the Freo Dockers
Freo way to go
Hit ‘em real hard send ‘em down below
Oh Freo give ‘em the old heave ho
We are the Freo Dockers

versus

From the sea to the shore hear the roaring
We will fight for the pride and the glory
Freohh Freo
Freohh Freo
In the purple and the white we will always win the fight
We are Dockers we are making history
As the Cup Goes Up hear the shouting
Freohh Freo
Freohh Freo

 

[dockertor]

I know, was more a dig at how we operate here in the west.
I love the place but when it comes to change, well it's just so scary.

Or what we have is fine and the alternatives are crap...which is what the most people who voted thought

 

[Avid_Avenger]

Or what we have is fine and the alternatives are crap...which is what the most people who voted thought

Clearly not, considering what we had came third.

Those who didn't vote however...

 

[Whatname]

Or what we have is fine and the alternatives are crap...which is what the most people who voted thought

I was referencing the way things operate in WA when it comes to voting for something different. It doesnt matter that it could actually be better if its different we dont want know about it.

By the way with the way the voting system was set up I doubt the majority got their wish. Maybe the Steve's rigged it because they like the current song and didnt want to change it. Wouldnt that be a turn up for all those dreamers who think the Steve's are out to systematically destroy the club.

 

[surfsup]

I was referencing the way things operate in WA when it comes to voting for something different. It doesnt matter that it could actually be better if its different we dont want know about it.

By the way with the way the voting system was set up I doubt the majority got their wish. Maybe the Steve's rigged it because they like the current song and didnt want to change it. Wouldnt that be a turn up for all those dreamers who think the Steve's are out to systematically destroy the club.

The majority didn't effin' bother!!

 

[Seppo]

The majority didn't effin' bother!!

On this point, I'm really interested to know if those who post on here actually didn't vote and the reason why.
e.g. CBF voting, forgot to vote, doesn't care about the result...

 

[Bad Brain]

You are wrong. Very ironic that the song you like is about rockers and rollers and the rock band, Eskimo Joe's song highlights winning a football premiership.

Not according to the band Hoss:

"Eskimo Joe -- the club's No.1 ticketholders -- say this of their song: "Freo Freo was written with Fremantle as a town in mind"

Though yeah, they also said on Triple J today they aimed to make a more victorian style anthem. So I can see how this led them to include as many cliched footy song lyrics as possible such as "and we will will fight for the right to white might" or whatever it was, but I like ours.

Yeah our song is different, but I like being different. I'm a freo supporter.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Welcome to WA

I admire the steve's having the stones to make changes for the better. While im upset we didnt change the song at least we got a decent jumper.

That's your opinion and your entitled to it, but from my point of view you are totally wrong. We had a decent jumper and now we have a bland, safe, passionless one. We dumped our anchor so that we could embrace the unoffical Dockers nickname that nobody really supported and we now have the worst logo in the league. But this thread is about the song, and its good that it hasn't changed much. If the Steves have stones, they're in their head.

 

[Damarus]

That's your opinion and your entitled to it, but from my point of view you are totally wrong.

Oh Reg... Gold as always

By the way, if we chose the anchor over the Dockers tag, we'd have to change our song! Thought you didn't want that? Seems like a conflict of interest

 

[Whatname]

Reg, from my point of view you are totally wrong and stuck in the past.

I could argue all day about the need for change and if your not moving forward your dying. It would be a waste of energy though as you have shown no ability to comprehend why this change is necesary as you would rather be stuck back in the 90's with a dodgy administration that sent the club broke and a football department that had no f**king idea. I am as passionate as any Freo fan but at least I can admit that our history isnt the greatest and that moving forward into a new hopefully successful era the sins of the past can be forgotten. Seriously do you see Hawthorn supporters going around wishing they were still called the Mayblooms.

 

[Avid_Avenger]

That's your opinion and your entitled to it, but from my point of view you are totally wrong. We had a decent jumper and now we have a bland, safe, passionless one. We dumped our anchor so that we could embrace the unoffical Dockers nickname that nobody really supported and we now have the worst logo in the league. But this thread is about the song, and its good that it hasn't changed much. If the Steves have stones, they're in their head.

And based on the song vote, your opinion is disconnected from the vast, vast majority. Only 35% of members voted, and of that third, the majority voted for change (Reworked 1st, EJ 2nd) - i.e. took advantage of the chance for change. So why is your opinion more right than Whatname's?

Clearly the heritage-police are the vocal minority in the real world.

But as Chief of the Heritage-Police, what exactly are your credentials? So far all we know about you is that you are familiar with the ways of arse monkeys (your words) and that you like a good long sook (based on endlessly repeated posts). You have shown no ability to actually defend anything man (woman?)!

Time to accept that most supporters simply care about on-field success, the players, new draftees, coaches delivering an actual game plan and developing our players, and ultimately, winning a bloody flag.

Oh wait... (face-palm), you don't care about that. My mistake! Keep harbouring hate for lost 'heritage' all you like. The rest of us will watch the footy

Enter *long ranting sook* here...

 

[Sman-21]

kill the steves
They promised to make big changes while their in charge an they dropped the ball on this one only making a minor change.

Sure we couldnt sing the opening part of the original song but it was the best part when played over the speakers at games.
Now we are just left with the lame lyrics.
When the players sing it its so dull an boring its like their prison ditch diggers singing a song.

Was listening to Nova this morning an Shauny Mac was talking about it an he was saying pretty much the same as me.
Mentioned how he really liked the eskimo song an thought it could sound great sung by the boys.
Then also mentioned how i guess we shouldnt be suprised its typical of WA to not like change.

 

[Bad Brain]

kill the steves
They promised to make big changes while their in charge an they dropped the ball on this one only making a minor change.

Sure we couldnt sing the opening part of the original song but it was the best part when played over the speakers at games.
Now we are just left with the lame lyrics.
When the players sing it its so dull an boring its like their prison ditch diggers singing a song.

Was listening to Nova this morning an Shauny Mac was talking about it an he was saying pretty much the same as me.
Mentioned how he really liked the eskimo song an thought it could sound great sung by the boys.
Then also mentioned how i guess we shouldnt be suprised its typical of WA to not like change.

Shauny Mac is also the president of the Taylor Swift fanclub so I guess it just shows there's no accounting for taste.

FWIW I also I think the bolded bit is a bit unfair. I didn't like the Joe's version (too vanilla) and am opposed to daylight savings (I just prefer it being dark at night) but on the other hand, I love the new Perth Entertainment Centre (pretty sure it's a Transformer) and god help-me, I even think the Cacti looks neat.

Lumping everyone who disagree's with you into the "typical perth / fears change!" category is just bull.

 

[ImperialPurple]

uuurrrggghhhhh......

The thing I absolutely HATED about the original was the unbelievably tacky and highly embarrassing lyric "we're the rollers we're the rockers, we're the mighty Freo Dockers, gonna roll 'em and we'll rock 'em"...

That is beyond cringeworthy. There are no words sufficient to describe just how BAD that is... and that's the one part they left.

The drums at the beginning were great - the build up of emotion leading into the music. The only real decent thing about it... and that's the bit they ditch.

For years I've been saying that our song is unique but needs some serious reworking. Speed it up, and get rid of the embarrassing lyrics. Kenny Whatshishead must have spent about 3 minutes on that abomination to make what was already a crap song, waaaaaaaayyyyy crapper.

So now, our song is worse than before, with the drums gone, but the ridiculous lyrics left in. This was my 4th choice and now I'm very unhappy.

And yes I voted, even though I thought all 4 were average at best.

 

[Nothing]

On this point, I'm really interested to know if those who post on here actually didn't vote and the reason why.
e.g. CBF voting, forgot to vote, doesn't care about the result...

For me, in order:
1. CBF voting - Not something that warrants me spending time on (didn't even listen to the songs).
2. doesn't care about the result - not particularly enamoured with the original song, don't care if we keep it or not.
3. share a membership (don't know if my bro voted)

EDIT: in hindsight I should have sold my vote to the highest bidder