Moved Thread Nick Daicos or Will Ashcroft?
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Maybe wrong or right is not the correct term, misleading is probably more correct.
To know which may be right, wrong or misleading you have to take into account how the stats are derived, for example
Contested Possession: A possession which has been won when the ball is in dispute. Includes looseball-gets, hardball-gets, contested marks, gathers from a hitout and frees for
Posessions can be from kick ins etc,
So even if the stats are right they may not be the best way to compare these two players.
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Daicos now, Ashcroft & JHF later. They aren’t little weeds.
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I just think Daicos' disposal sets him apart. His toughness is also under rated.
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I assume the OP knows Sheezel is tracking better so wasn’t included
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Good to see the OP finally ask the hard questions I've always wanted answered in this stage of their respective careers...
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There's a huge gap between the two right now. But daicos has reached unprecedented heights extremely quickly. Ashcroft has plenty of time up his sleeve
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I’d love to have both of them in my team. Thankful we have one of them. Really not sure what threads like these achieve other than shit fights between posters that refuse to acknowledge guns from oppo clubs.
I didn't realise that Daicos is not in the top 50 in the comp for Inside 50s.
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My player (insert name) is better than yours.
Why do people start these threads??
Why do people start these threads??
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The Daicos v Newcombe one got stale quickly, that’s why.
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#1 in the competition for disposals yet not even top 50 for clangers. That’s impressive.
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Time to get to work. I’ll give it some thought overnight and touch base in the morning.
Yes and no.
Yes, because he is a very good user by foot and hits his targets
But no, because that Inside 50 kick is the hardest one. More Inside 50s, usually results in more Clangers.
Interestingly, he only just scrapes in to the top 50 in the comp for Rebound 50s too.
Does he kick short a lot?
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In the very same post you acknowledge he’s a very good user then ask if he kicks short a lot. Do you watch him or not?
Not really at all surprising.
A contested possession % of 28% and an average disposal length of 15m per possession is the lowest combination I can remember from a player that plays the majority of his footy between the arcs with that amount of uncontested ball since most of these stats have been recorded.
If guys like Boomer and Ablett were the king of the one-two, Daicos has taken it to an entirely different level.
Adding 4 disposals per game from play-on kick in's helps his numbers also historically.
Historically he's averaging 29 touches per game, of which 28% of it is contested. That is definitely not unprecedented.
He's going at almost a goal a game, which is awesome for his starting position. But people overlook he attends over 30% of Collingwoods center bounces. He's basically a +1 midfielder with no opponent. He's not a half back.
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Not really. Hence me asking the question.
