NICKS OUT

[adelaidecrows]

Any ruthlessness we once had was long dead well before COVID

Our ruthless was dying when Roo retired, case and point when we retired Hart, but died completely after Craig left. I think the players leaving sucked the fight out of us and we started to worry more about keeping everyone than actually making decisions that improve. Now we just sit idle and tread water. This off season is really an outlier and it wouldnt surprise me if we have to sit down and rest for the next 5 years because of the hard slog this one was.

 

[Cromulant]

Our ruthless was dying when Roo retired, case and point when we retired Hart, but died completely after Craig left. I think the players leaving sucked the fight out of us and we started to worry more about keeping everyone than actually making decisions that improve. Now we just sit idle and tread water. This off season is really an outlier and it wouldnt surprise me if we have to sit down and rest for the next 5 years because of the hard slog this one was.

We had no ruthlessness when Craig was here.

If we did, Roo would've never played that 07 Elim final

 

[adelaidecrows]

We had no ruthlessness when Craig was here.

If we did, Roo would've never played that 07 Elim final

Any coach would pick a club legend. The trust would be there to select them. Any coach would have selected Roo that game.

 

[Cromulant]

Any coach would pick a club legend. The trust would be there to select them. Any coach would have selected Roo that game.

Maybe, bur the bloke didn't train for a month prior to that game.

Longmire didn't pick his club captain for a GF, didn't work for them but it was the right decision.

Roo doesn't play that day we probably win even with Kris Massie playing on Buddy.

 

[Crowbling]

Critics might not be able to see what happens inside the club, but they can see the ladder. Another Nicks speech where he says a lot, but doesn’t actually say anything.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Maybe, bur the bloke didn't train for a month prior to that game.

Longmire didn't pick his club captain for a GF, didn't work for them but it was the right decision.

Roo doesn't play that day we probably win even with Kris Massie playing on Buddy.

Our window was closing anyway and we were up against the eventual premiers. Its hard to really mount a case to suggest we would have won in those circumstances.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Critics might not be able to see what happens inside the club, but they can see the ladder. Another Nicks speech where he says a lot, but doesn’t actually say anything.

Everything Nicks says can be interpreted in only one way

'Its not my fault, its everyone elses' Which is mighty arrogant of someone whose never proven themselves.

 

[George Kramer]

Fine to have a crack at critics, but if you're going to do it.... you'd better come to the table with something better than that. I get it's what you do at a club dinner, and he's certainly not the first bloke to do it but that was not a good watch.

He's a man under pressure and he knows it.

Bit rich to have a go at critics when you’ve finished 15th and our recent record. Perhaps take some responsibility might have been a better attitude.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Bit rich to have a go at critics when you’ve finished 15th and our recent record. Perhaps take some responsibility might have been a better attitude.

Could have easily said that he is reflecting on his own mistakes and looking to improve all the time. Self admissions go along way to building respect.

 

[Cromulant]

Bit rich to have a go at critics when you’ve finished 15th and our recent record. Perhaps take some responsibility might have been a better attitude.

You could even spin it by saying, "not many 15th placed sides win as many games as we did, or were in as many others.... but we as a club made mistakes and we need to own it, once we do we'll be better for it"

It's not that hard

 

[adelaidecrows]

You could even spin it by saying, "not many 15th placed sides win as many games as we did, or were in as many others.... but we as a club made mistakes and we need to own it, once we do we'll be better for it"

It's not that hard

Exactly. Basically every time we lose its the players fault. Never heard him own anything. The club owns nothing. They just stick to the same narrative of a rookie coach coaching inexperienced teenagers.

 

[triggyscrewedus]

Two winners of the club champion award and neither of them specifically called Nicks out for any praise in their acceptance speech.
We don't have a coach players want to play for.. its written all over the club.

 

[TBM]

Two winners of the club champion award and neither of them specifically called Nicks out for any praise in their acceptance speech.
We don't have a coach players want to play for.. its written all over the club.

Pretty telling really.

Conversely with Port, you hear players talk of their love for Ken constantly.

 

[Pugsley]

You reckon? He said their results invited critics, failure is not sticking to the plan and giving up, then went on to say they know what’s going on internally.

I can’t put myself to listen to him again so be interested in others take.

What you just said but the apologists will spin it.

 

[cleanhands]

You reckon? He said their results invited critics, failure is not sticking to the plan and giving up, then went on to say they know what’s going on internally.

I can’t put myself to listen to him again so be interested in others take.

Put myself thru the agony of listening to his BNF speech, it is so filled with holes it makes me cringe,like nails on a blackboard

 

[Southerntakeover]

Our window was closing anyway and we were up against the eventual premiers. Its hard to really mount a case to suggest we would have won in those circumstances.

They weren't the eventual premiers

 

[Amacca 23]

Pretty telling really.

Conversely with Port, you hear players talk of their love for Ken constantly.

Yeah thats got them along way and premierships ? Oh wait they choke when it matters .Won more prelims than them in the last 10 years

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[davos44]

This is a common misconception. You are looking at all those names with hindsight. I lived through it.

1. Rehn had two Knee Reconstructions ver 95 and 96.
2. It was McLeods debut years and averaged 10 disposals a game.
3. Shaw had a mandate to turn over the squad and play younger players which Blight benefited from, the problem was it alienated all those senior players and leaders from the Original squad and they literally did their best to run Shaw out of town by taking the piss. Im talking McDermott, McGuiness, Andrew Jarman. Andrew Jarman was the ring leader and he openly was a bully to every young player to walk through the doors at the Crows. He was not a well liked team mate. So Shaw was up against it and never had stood a chance and the club hung him out to dry.

I lived through it too.

McDermott, McGuinness and Jarman were definitely the issue even in Cornes last year as coach.

I don't think Shaw was hung out to dry, he simply had no idea and was sacked (I would dare say that the board knew Blight was available and fresh after 2 years out of the game, I would sack my mum to have him coach the team)

The original point was that Nicks is a worse coach than Shaw, which I strongly disagree with.

 

[Jarman3]

You could even spin it by saying, "not many 15th placed sides win as many games as we did, or were in as many others.... but we as a club made mistakes and we need to own it, once we do we'll be better for it"

It's not that hard

Or even, god forbid, "I as a coach made mistakes and I need to own it".

 

[davos44]

It looks amazing on paper now and I don't know how old you are but in 1996 it was said to be a shit list, club hit absolute rock bottom and there was rocks flying left right and centre. everyone got sacked

the point is those same guys you list the next year with someone who knew what they were doing won GF x 2.
None of this made a final, next year won a final, year after regressed, year after that made a prelim, year after lose a GF, year after win GF.

it was we are shit, win a GF, and then another.

what changed? coach, gameplan

what didn't? players. we dont know if we have a great list or a shit list because weve never seen anyone else coach this bloody list.

I think if there was a Malcolm Blight type figure out there available to coach us we might have made a move already.

 

[crows dude]

I lived through it too.

McDermott, McGuinness and Jarman were definitely the issue even in Cornes last year as coach.

I don't think Shaw was hung out to dry, he simply had no idea and was sacked (I would dare say that the board knew Blight was available and fresh after 2 years out of the game, I would sack my mum to have him coach the team)

The original point was that Nicks is a worse coach than Shaw, which I strongly disagree with.

Shaw actuall quit before being sacked. He quit after his family started receiving threats.

 

[GreyCrow]

Or even, god forbid, "I as a coach made mistakes and I need to own it".

And this is why we wont make finals

Because he doesnt think he needs to change Sub selection
He doesnt think he needs to have selection integrity
He thinks his game plan - whichever one that might be week to week - is the right one
He doesnt think he needs accountablity for his players or himself

 

[Jarman3]

Shaw actuall quit before being sacked. He quit after his family started receiving threats.

Careful, you'll start giving people bad ideas.