The Law Nicola Gobbo named - Massive corruption by Victoria Police that will see major criminals released from jail

[The Warlord]

WT actual F?

John Rawls would be rolling in his grave.

And Bateson is being primed for big things.

As we now know he was baws deep in this shit, but they had him out being the smiling nice guy community copper on youth crime and African gangs and stuff, clearly building up his political powerbase before going for a big job.

Its just disgusting these pigs feel like they can actually say this stuff out loud.

 

[Number37]

Just let this sink in.



And even better:



This is the shit of an authoritarian state.

It's OK to be a lawyer and an informer, cop tells Lawyer X royal commission

While being grilled about the force's use of lawyer Nicola Gobbo to inform on her gangland clients, Detective Stuart Bateson revealed that he did not believe the two roles were incompatible.

www.theage.com.au

What else would you expect him to say?

 

[The Warlord]

What else would you expect him to say?

That people have the guaranteed right to a lawyer who is not running to the cops telling them everything about your case, and then working with the cops to get you put away illegally.

 

[Number37]

That people have the guaranteed right to a lawyer who is not running to the cops telling them everything about your case, and then working with the cops to get you put away illegally.

Since when do cops not lie?

 

[Snake_Baker]

That people have the guaranteed right to a lawyer who is not running to the cops telling them everything about your case, and then working with the cops to get you put away illegally.

This would require some element of "ethics".

The arrogance of his mutterings is built upon 150+ years of zero state accountability.

 

[The Warlord]

This would require some element of "ethics".

The arrogance of his mutterings is built upon 150+ years of zero state accountability.

Yep, they still have the mentality of running a frontier convict settlement. Everyone is a suspect and they are the law.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Yep, they still have the mentality of running a frontier convict settlement. Everyone is a suspect and they are the law.

Constitutionally, that's pretty much what we still are.

Australia (the people) never really attained independence.

 

[The Warlord]

Since when do cops not lie?

Not sure what this means?

 

[The Warlord]

Constitutionally, that's pretty much what we still are.

Australia (the people) never really attained independence.

Yep, no bill of rights.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Yep, no bill of rights.

There isn't even a separation of powers in the state constitutions. All laws coming under their mandates are basically totalitarian in nature.

The average Australian is completely ignorant of the latent dangers of our political systems.

 

[Catters 070911]

I see nothing wrong with what Gobbo or the police did.

These guys committed these crimes. Who cares who ratted them out?

What is the difference between this, and a stool pidgeon who tells the police what goes on in prison?

What is the difference between this and the sources that media rely on to tell them about criminal activities which should really be reported to the police?

She is brave and shows some integrity. Would you rather defence lawyers be as crooked as the people they represent? It is good that some have a conscience and are willing to take criminals off the street.

If Gobbo is killed, the blood is on the Herald-Sun's hands for naming her.

 

[Catters 070911]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/l...d/news-story/64a2f211824c98e59519a37d5c907482

Hun has more detail

Hun will have blood on its hands if Gobbo gets rubbed out for this.

Carl Williams died as a direct result of being named as a police informant in jail. The day that it appeared in the Hun, he was killed in prison. Coincidence?

 

[The Warlord]

I see nothing wrong with what Gobbo or the police did.

There is absolutely no helping people like you.

 

[Father Jack]

I see nothing wrong with what Gobbo or the police did.

These guys committed these crimes. Who cares who ratted them out?

What is the difference between this, and a stool pidgeon who tells the police what goes on in prison?

What is the difference between this and the sources that media rely on to tell them about criminal activities which should really be reported to the police?

She is brave and shows some integrity. Would you rather defence lawyers be as crooked as the people they represent? It is good that some have a conscience and are willing to take criminals off the street.

If Gobbo is killed, the blood is on the Herald-Sun's hands for naming her.

You do realise you've just described a police state and the demise of a functioning legal system, don't you?

 

[The Warlord]

Hun will have blood on its hands if Gobbo gets rubbed out for this.

Carl Williams died as a direct result of being named as a police informant in jail. The day that it appeared in the Hun, he was killed in prison. Coincidence?

How do you think the Hun got it brain genius?

 

[Mofra]

I see nothing wrong with what Gobbo or the police did.

We've always been at war with Eurasia.

 

[Catters 070911]

You do realise you've just described a police state and the demise of a functioning legal system, don't you?

Yes, because the current legal system has done SO much in keeping criminals off the street and a safe society.

The end justifies the means.

 

[Father Jack]

Yes, because the current legal system has done SO much in keeping criminals off the street and a safe society.

The end justifies the means.

So you are for a police state?

 

[Catters 070911]

So you are for a police state?

I am for the old days, where people feared the police, and would slow down in front of them, or stop doing their mischief if they saw them nearby.

In the old days, if the boys in blue caught you, they gave you a stern talking to, and then took you home to face your parents, who you also feared and didn't want to get in trouble with.

This kept people out of trouble, as they were too scared of getting caught. So people had a healthy fear of the police.

However, the media have undermined the police at any or every opportunity, and have portrayed them as toothless tigers. Add to this police integrity unit, who seem to care more about disciplining its own members than they do about stopping crime, and you get, instead of protestors scattering when they see the cops arrive, they take them on and bash them instead, knowing that the media will paint the cops as the heavy-handed bad guys and the courts will hit those who bash police with a wet lettuce leaf.

I am a fan of "zero tolerance" and it turned New York from a place people feared visiting because of its crime, into a place people feel safe. Victoria needs to get tougher on crime, but the State Govt are too busy pandering to the firey and ambo unions to even pay the police properly. Maybe the police need to sell their soul and put out "How To Vote" cards for Daniel Andrews, so he will bend over for them.

So, would you prefer a society where police are bashed and the perpetrators are treated like the victims instead of the cops? Society needs to have a healthy fear of their police again. Until we do, and be flexible about how the police can catch criminals, the crims will keep winning.

 

[Snake_Baker]

A walk up start for my 2020 dead pool

Nicola Gobbo 'cries most days', but loses bid to avoid royal commission grilling

The former gangland lawyer has been ordered to give testimony over the phone in January, despite her lawyers saying she could have a "psychotic mental health breakdown" if forced to take the stand.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Lebbo73]

I am for the old days, where people feared the police, and would slow down in front of them, or stop doing their mischief if they saw them nearby.

In the old days, if the boys in blue caught you, they gave you a stern talking to, and then took you home to face your parents, who you also feared and didn't want to get in trouble with.

This kept people out of trouble, as they were too scared of getting caught. So people had a healthy fear of the police.

However, the media have undermined the police at any or every opportunity, and have portrayed them as toothless tigers. Add to this police integrity unit, who seem to care more about disciplining its own members than they do about stopping crime, and you get, instead of protestors scattering when they see the cops arrive, they take them on and bash them instead, knowing that the media will paint the cops as the heavy-handed bad guys and the courts will hit those who bash police with a wet lettuce leaf.

I am a fan of "zero tolerance" and it turned New York from a place people feared visiting because of its crime, into a place people feel safe. Victoria needs to get tougher on crime, but the State Govt are too busy pandering to the firey and ambo unions to even pay the police properly. Maybe the police need to sell their soul and put out "How To Vote" cards for Daniel Andrews, so he will bend over for them.

So, would you prefer a society where police are bashed and the perpetrators are treated like the victims instead of the cops? Society needs to have a healthy fear of their police again. Until we do, and be flexible about how the police can catch criminals, the crims will keep winning.

Respect for the police. Not fear. Belting criminals leads to corruption and the lines being blurred between who is really the criminal. I agree with you that judges have too much power when it comes to applying weak sentences.

 

[hanma]

I am for the old days, where people feared the police, and would slow down in front of them, or stop doing their mischief if they saw them nearby.

In the old days, if the boys in blue caught you, they gave you a stern talking to, and then took you home to face your parents, who you also feared and didn't want to get in trouble with.

This kept people out of trouble, as they were too scared of getting caught. So people had a healthy fear of the police.

However, the media have undermined the police at any or every opportunity, and have portrayed them as toothless tigers. Add to this police integrity unit, who seem to care more about disciplining its own members than they do about stopping crime, and you get, instead of protestors scattering when they see the cops arrive, they take them on and bash them instead, knowing that the media will paint the cops as the heavy-handed bad guys and the courts will hit those who bash police with a wet lettuce leaf.

I am a fan of "zero tolerance" and it turned New York from a place people feared visiting because of its crime, into a place people feel safe. Victoria needs to get tougher on crime, but the State Govt are too busy pandering to the firey and ambo unions to even pay the police properly. Maybe the police need to sell their soul and put out "How To Vote" cards for Daniel Andrews, so he will bend over for them.

So, would you prefer a society where police are bashed and the perpetrators are treated like the victims instead of the cops? Society needs to have a healthy fear of their police again. Until we do, and be flexible about how the police can catch criminals, the crims will keep winning.

All you're doing is idolising an image of the "good old times". The times where there were little regulations on transparency and little ramifications for abuse of power. Just look at how Queensland turned out to be under Joh. As for New York? It's just a sham. Only the boot lickers, who are often right wing, praise authoritarianism because they like the image of the "good old times" and "traditional society", at the risk of actually losing their rights and freedom.

 

[Catters 070911]

All you're doing is idolising an image of the "good old times". The times where there were little regulations on transparency and little ramifications for abuse of power. Just look at how Queensland turned out to be under Joh. As for New York? It's just a sham. Only the boot lickers, who are often right wing, praise authoritarianism because they like the image of the "good old times" and "traditional society", at the risk of actually losing their rights and freedom.

What about the abuse of the power of the media, who demonise the police, and make them look ineffectual, by either showing them "bashing someone" (and not showing the punches the person possibly threw at them first, warranting him being arrested), or showing them standing there during protests?

If they act, they are criticised. If they don't act, they are criticised. Every action is judged by a media who care more about selling papers and ratings than law and order, police integrity who are more concerned with taking police off the street, and an ungrateful public who get upset when police pull them over for speeding, drink driving etc.

The media and society has blurred the lines between "the good guys and the bad guys". They promote people like Tony Mokbel in papers, and on shows like "Underbelly", and paint them as some rebel who thumbs their nose at societial rules, rather than a drug dealer and criminal, and then question police actions on any and everything.

Police chase a stolen car, and the car crashes, the feral family blames the cops. But then the media criticise whether the police need to chase or not, rather than seeing it as an unfortunate consequence of them doing their duty.

When a defense lawyer actually grows a conscience, and helps police against actions of her clients she possibly felt so repugnant, that she had to tell them. When it leads to convictions that put bad people away, where they belong, and keeps them from murdering, raping and selling drugs to you and your loved ones, then it is a good thing, and something society should applaud.

Look at how the media in America treat police. Any shooting of a black person is treated as "racist", even ones where the black man pulled a gun and pointed it at cops. You never hear about a black cop shooting a white man, a black cop shooting a black man, or a white cop shooting a white man. Meaning that in all those cases, it was justified. But if youa re a black man and shot by a white cop, you are painted as an innocent victim, even if you pointed a gun and drugs were found in your vehicle.

There seems to be more written about criminals who are shot then police. The fact is, society is becoming corrupt, and rotten to the core, and society and the law sit back and let it happen by hamstringing police and making a bigger deal about how they go about catching criminals, than the fact that they caught them.

The law is an ass, so if cops have to bend the rules sometimes to achieve their aim, so be it. I still believe that if you don't do the wrong thing, you have nothing to worry about. Maybe more media space and public outcry should be towards the courts and our legal system, which does everything to get someone off and slaps them with a wet feather. The focus is pointed the wrong way.

Also, the Herald-Sun will have blood on their hands if Gobbo is killed, since they were the first to name her. They played into the hands of criminals and sold someone out to sell more papers. The media in this country comes across as pro-criminal and anti-police a lot of the time.

 

[hanma]

That's just a long post based on whataboutism and made up scenarios.

 

[Father Jack]

A squadron of jackboots and a few midnight disappearances will whip this country back into shape!!