Opinion NMFC Board Cricket ThreadII - Windies, Big Bash, Pakistan.

[Mr_Nyah]

Inzamam 'surprised' by run-out ruling

Inzamam-ul-Haq, the Pakistan captain, expressed surprise at being given run out in controversial circumstances today

www.espncricinfo.com

Throwing the ball at a batsman who is in his crease, not attempting a run, he tries to avoid the ball and lifts his foot while he does, the ball hits the stumps and he is given run out - definitely in the spirit of the game, hey English sooks? I mean, surely he is trying to gain an advantage by standing still in his crease and then avoiding the ball hitting him, so he's fair game, right? That's the only time you're allowed to stump or run someone out - when they're attempting to gain an advantage.

 

[Samsquanch]

I dont think the poms are under performing. With a bit of luck they could easily be 2-0 up and had a fit Archer being playing along with Wood I think it could well be. I guess though you can only perform with who is on the pitch but make no mistake there is very little between the teams and I think the Aussies are really concerned about the English side and what they can do with a bit more nous with bazball and thats why they did what they did to Bairstow and didnt overturn their appeal. They knew the dangers of a Bairstow and Stokes partnership. I think the poms could well have won without the Bairstow dismissal. Stokes had them rattled yet again. I dont think there has ever been a cricketer that puts the fear in opposition teams like him , even the great Viv Richards

And if your aunty had balls...

I can understand why a team would withdraw an appeal if a fielder impeded the batter who was run out or if a fly flew into the batters eye as the ball was bowled. I can't comprehend why an elite batter would expect to be recalled when he was stumped after he himself made an error, when he himself as a keeper had attempted to stump an opponent out in the same manner in the same game.

He is a whining sook and everybody knows it.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Inzamam 'surprised' by run-out ruling

Inzamam-ul-Haq, the Pakistan captain, expressed surprise at being given run out in controversial circumstances today

www.espncricinfo.com

Throwing the ball at a batsman who is in his crease, not attempting a run, he tries to avoid the ball and lifts his foot while he does, the ball hits the stumps and he is given run out - definitely in the spirit of the game, hey English sooks? I mean, surely he is trying to gain an advantage by standing still in his crease and then avoiding the ball hitting him, so he's fair game, right? That's the only time you're allowed to stump or run someone out - when they're attempting to gain an advantage.

I cant do it now but for a laugh up one of Rob Moody's youtube compilations of all of Inzi's run outs.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I cant do it now but for a laugh up one of Rob Moody's youtube compilations of all of Inzi's run outs.

My favourite one is where he just lies down and waits for his fate.

 

[roo blitz]

Stokes is not fit to tie Adam Gilchrist's bootlaces. Not in the same stratosphere.

You really think that, Mmmm Im not so sure. Both brilliant cricketers in their own right. To say they are not in the same statosphere is plain silly though and you and others know it

 

[gokangas]

I can't wait until tomorrow night.

 

[Grogg]

I think if the umpires had their time again they probably would have overturned the decision or insisted the Aussies should. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. I would love to hear the umpires honest opinion on it now although they probably would go into damage control to protect their integrity

If you think the umps would have overturned the decision given their time again, you're delusional. Their job is to apply the letter of the law with impartiality. This whole "it's the vibe" argument is ridiculous in the extreme.

Get a grip. Move on.

 

[roo blitz]

Inzamam 'surprised' by run-out ruling

Inzamam-ul-Haq, the Pakistan captain, expressed surprise at being given run out in controversial circumstances today

www.espncricinfo.com

Throwing the ball at a batsman who is in his crease, not attempting a run, he tries to avoid the ball and lifts his foot while he does, the ball hits the stumps and he is given run out - definitely in the spirit of the game, hey English sooks? I mean, surely he is trying to gain an advantage by standing still in his crease and then avoiding the ball hitting him, so he's fair game, right? That's the only time you're allowed to stump or run someone out - when they're attempting to gain an advantage.

I agree 100 per cent, that the Inzy one was a crap decision. I was watching it live when it happened on TV and thought that is totally wrong. My whole point about the Bairstow dismissal is about sportsmanship in the game . NZ are the best at it. Its not about the Aussies or the Poms. I have a foot in both camps and love cricket and both the Bairstow and Inzy decisions are on the nose.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Because why not.

 

[Samsquanch]

I can't wait until tomorrow night.

The English press and whiny pearl clutchers have heaped so much pressure on Jonny and the team. Losing or drawing this match will be a national disaster.

Jonny's keeping will be under the microscope and so will his batting. If he does well it will be monumental given the circumstances.

 

[Samsquanch]

If you think the umps would have overturned the decision given their time again, you're delusional. Their job is to apply the letter of the law with impartiality. This whole "it's the vibe" argument is ridiculous in the extreme.

Get a grip. Move on.

To even suggest that would be an affront to the spirit of the game. An umpire may ask a captain if he or she is sure they wish to appeal but if they gave a not out decision it would be outright corruption.

 

[roo blitz]

The problem with going back over old footage is that you will find old skeletons in everyones closets that are not a good look. The teams and world changes and moves on but you can only really talk about current issues in the light of today. Sandpaper gate is part of this current team still as players are still part of that team so when this happens people will draw the link. I have quite a few cycling connections with people from the UK and being an Aussie I do feel slightly embarrassed by what went on with the win at all costs mentality. Anyway time to move on. I still stand by everything I have said but there is nothing else to really add to it now but lets hope for some more great cricket and dare I say it good sportsmanship. At the end of the day its only a game.

 

[Samsquanch]

 

[blackshadow]

Qantas are the travel sponsor of Cricket Australia. They should rename one of their planes or bring in a new plane named "The Spirit of Cricket" and use it for all team flights.

 

[KiwiRoo]

Because why not.

made Ewan Chatfield look like Bradman !

Handy bowler but would have to be right up there as the worst bat ever in test cricket

 

[DuckYeah]

You really think that, Mmmm Im not so sure. Both brilliant cricketers in their own right. To say they are not in the same statosphere is plain silly though and you and others know it

 

[KiwiRoo]

I agree 100 per cent, that the Inzy one was a crap decision. I was watching it live when it happened on TV and thought that is totally wrong. My whole point about the Bairstow dismissal is about sportsmanship in the game . NZ are the best at it. Its not about the Aussies or the Poms. I have a foot in both camps and love cricket and both the Bairstow and Inzy decisions are on the nose.

sh%t we've had our bad moments in sport too as plenty of Welsh rugby fans will attest to !
and some cricket examples too including a mankad

ps I hope both Captains put their "better man" hats on for the rest of the series otherwise it's going to get really toxic

 

[Hojuman]

Piers has declared WAR !

Even got Little Lord Fauntleroy on !

 

[Sillygit]

The problem with going back over old footage is that you will find old skeletons in everyones closets that are not a good look. The teams and world changes and moves on but you can only really talk about current issues in the light of today. Sandpaper gate is part of this current team still as players are still part of that team so when this happens people will draw the link. I have quite a few cycling connections with people from the UK and being an Aussie I do feel slightly embarrassed by what went on with the win at all costs mentality. Anyway time to move on. I still stand by everything I have said but there is nothing else to really add to it now but lets hope for some more great cricket and dare I say it good sportsmanship. At the end of the day its only a game.

And again some valid part of the argument isnt allowed to be applied to the english team but you'd slap it all over the australian team without a moments hesitation. If you dont want to feel "slightly embarassed" then maybe take a look inward and figure that out.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

I dont think the poms are under performing. With a bit of luck they could easily be 2-0 up and had a fit Archer being playing along with Wood I think it could well be. I guess though you can only perform with who is on the pitch but make no mistake there is very little between the teams and I think the Aussies are really concerned about the English side and what they can do with a bit more nous with bazball and thats why they did what they did to Bairstow and didnt overturn their appeal. They knew the dangers of a Bairstow and Stokes partnership. I think the poms could well have won without the Bairstow dismissal. Stokes had them rattled yet again. I dont think there has ever been a cricketer that puts the fear in opposition teams like him , even the great Viv Richards

Stokes rattled Australia AFTER the Barstow dismissal. Who’s to say how it would have turned out - maybe they could have T20d it without losing a wicket and got Stokes to 240 n.o. to win the game, or maybe the Australian bowlers (even without Lyon) could have taken the extra wickets with more runs to go.

What England really needed to do was bowl better after sending Australia in under cloudy skies on day 1, and bat better at the top end of both their innings, so they took advantage of everything being in their favour and they didn’t have to rely on last day heroics.

 

[Lomas]

What a wild read today. Stokes the most feared batsman in test history, Bairstow batted at a level never seen before, Foakes is the widely accepted best wicketkeeper in the world, Dicky Bird would not have allowed it, and England would have won if other players were in the team.
All with a nice dose of accusing others of having rose coloured glasses, being biased, and only having an understanding of the game through reading the Herald Sun.
I've said that I don't think it was a great look, I've never liked theses type of dismissals, but this level of hyperbole and wishful thinking in support of an entrenched personal position is a tad over the top.

 

[Samsquanch]

ps I hope both Captains put their "better man" hats on for the rest of the series otherwise it's going to get really toxic

Ollie Robinson abused Uzzie directly in his face in the first match of the series without a hint of humour or clever banter.

The bazball theory is one of take no prisoners.

All is fair in love and war.

England wanted a toxic environment as they thought they could thrive with an antisocial playing style. It turns out that one of their players wanted a second chance and his mates were upset when he was denied.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Ollie Robinson abused Uzzie directly in his face in the first match of the series without a hint of humour or clever banter.

The bazball theory is one of take no prisoners.

All is fair in love and war.

England wanted a toxic environment as they thought they could thrive with an antisocial playing style. It turns out that one of their players wanted a second chance and his mates were upset when he was denied.

If you can’t take it, test cricket is no place for you. Seems only yesterday.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

 

[Samsquanch]

Piers has declared WAR !

Even got Little Lord Fauntleroy on !

The bloke on the right is somebody who should remove himself from the public eye and keep his vile opinions to himself.

The same goes for the other bloke.