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CouchPotato said:
WADA have the power to summon witnesses - alvi, dank and charters will need to appear to start with.
essendon will have to show what was injected - "we don't know what it was, but we do know it wasn't TB4" won't cut it.
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Um.

No.
 

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Jimthegreat said:
CAS will set the bar of comfortable satisfaction much lower as they often do. That Chinese Shipment that the Tribunal couldn't find to be comfortably satisfied was TB4 is a alot more likely to find comfortable satisfaction at the CAS. That's all it'll take. WADA appeal about 40 cases a year on average and CAS have certainly overturn quite a few "home town decisions" in the past.

They'll appeal alot more of Danks judgement too. A few of those were blatantly wrong, especially the not guilty on attemting to adminsiter TB4 to the players. We know he injected the players with whateverrt was in that chinese shipment. Also, after Bomber's interview on 3aw we know hexarelin was on the club's premises despite Dank being cleared of that.

It's possible (not necessarily so though) a CAS decision could be embarrassing for the AFL Tribunal.
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Wasn't that shipment based on Alavi testimony? Is that allowed in the CAS? I didn't think they allowed hear say?
 
ASADA CEO Ben McDevitt ruled out an appeal on Monday on the grounds it would remain within the AFL framework.
But he left the matter in the hands of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), which now has three weeks to decide whether it will appeal.

"As with all other decisions I have made in these matters this decision has largely been informed by comprehensive legal advice," McDevitt said in a statement on Monday.

"I am conscious that ASADA does not have a direct right of appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) and the only appeal avenue open to ASADA at this time is to the AFL anti-doping appeals tribunal.

"I am also aware that appealing any of these decisions within the AFL framework would ultimately serve only to delay consideration of these matters by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).
 
Lance Uppercut said:
may know well before that. From memory WADA didn't take their full allotment to concede in the NRL case
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I got the impression that was somewhat "pre-arranged".

In so much as the players, sought and got some sort of assurances that that ASADA or WADA wouldn't be appealing the sanctions if they accepted them.

Don't quote me on any of this however.
 
Jimthegreat said:
CAS will set the bar of comfortable satisfaction much lower as they often do. That Chinese Shipment that the Tribunal couldn't find to be comfortably satisfied was TB4 is a alot more likely to find comfortable satisfaction at the CAS. That's all it'll take. WADA appeal about 40 cases a year on average and CAS have certainly overturn quite a few "home town decisions" in the past.

They'll appeal alot more of Danks judgement too. A few of those were blatantly wrong, especially the not guilty on attemting to adminsiter TB4 to the players. We know he injected the players with whateverrt was in that chinese shipment. Also, after Bomber's interview on 3aw we know hexarelin was on the club's premises despite Dank being cleared of that.

It's possible (not necessarily so though) a CAS decision could be embarrassing for the AFL Tribunal.
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Yeah... its that simple. If they prove there was a shipment ... should be a formality that all the 34 players were personally injected with that shipment one by one. There is no chance at all if they prove the shipment existed that the drugs didnt go to the Bikies, Gym Junkies or to the legit clinics that this criminals run.

Simple... case closed... players will get 2 years the minute WADA appeal. if only they took the deals that McD offered a year back...
 
t_ontour said:
Yeah look out for WADA... they must have that smoking gun that ASADA didnt have. Game over mate... ASADA's case was non-existent... and WADA will take on this evidence, so good luck with that. BOOM!
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Like those witnesses that suddenly refused to testify. Won't be happening at cas.
 
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boncer34 said:
Wasn't that shipment based on Alavi testimony? Is that allowed in the CAS? I didn't think they allowed hear say?
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Charter knows what he was sourcing, Chinese company certified it, and you don't get that wrong in China without significant penalty, as it was tested at Melbourne Uni as TB4. Enough there for some Panels for be comfortably satisfied you'd think. Not saying it will be but it is certainly very possible the CAS could be comfortably satisfied as their bar of that is traditionally lower.
 
Jimthegreat said:
Charter knows what he was sourcing, Chinese company certified it, and you don't get that wrong in China without significant penalty, as it was tested at Melbourne Uni as TB4. Enough there for some Panels for be comfortably satisfied you'd think. Not saying it will be but it is certainly very possible the CAS could be comfortably satisfied as their bar of that is traditionally lower.
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Ahh it was Charters then. Still his evidence saying it was for Essendon is inadmissible I thought?
 
BlueWorld said:
Like those witnessesthat suddenly. refused to testify. Won't be happening at c as.
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You mean the convicted drug dealer and the dodgy doc.. yeah I am sure that they dont have agendas... and that their evidence and credibility wouldnt be questioned at all...

Perhaps WADA could offer a job to both of them to testify... that should do it.
 
Great news. Like the players choosing to skip the SCN step we can go straight to the final step. Instead of wasting time this can be over in 21 days or at least after the CAS hearing.

In my mind if WADA choose not too appeal and / or CAS find the players not guilty then most reasonable people will be satisfied. All i'm interested in is how our game is perceived.
 
t_ontour said:
Yeah... its that simple. If they prove there was a shipment ... should be a formality that all the 34 players were personally injected with that shipment one by one. There is no chance at all if they prove the shipment existed that the drugs didnt go to the Bikies, Gym Junkies or to the legit clinics that this criminals run.

Simple... case closed... players will get 2 years the minute WADA appeal. if only they took the deals that McD offered a year back...
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Stoppit directly! I keep reading your posts seriously and start mentally composing a reply ... Then I go 'hang on'.

OK so I'm slow, but this stuff does come close to some posts I've read.
 
Chameleon75 said:
‘In the interests of transparency, I would welcome the fullest possible release of the Tribunal’s findings and reasons on all of these matters,’ said Mr McDevitt.

that seems to imply that the tribunal is withholding part of the judgment
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Is that the part where the AFL instructed them to come up with a not guilty verdict no matter what.
 

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