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I've always been a bit nothing towards the Power. They're just another team we have to beat. That's most of the times, but sometimes they really irk me. Especially when they arc up the them V us mentality. Remember that "we hate them" shite from a showdown or two ago?
But that crap on Friday night shows they have a culture problem. Hinkley looked like a two bob school yard bully and the simpering grinning idiots in his team looked like the gutless gormless maggots who stand behind bullies and give them permission to behave badly.
He is a sooky loser and a bad winner. His work on Friday was disgraceful and unedifying and well below the standards required of a leader of men.
The great irony is that he has now given every other team an excuse to hate him and his team.
 
CharlieCrow said:
I've always been a bit nothing towards the Power. They're just another team we have to beat. That's most of the times, but sometimes they really irk me. Especially when they arc up the them V us mentality. Remember that "we hate them" shite from a showdown or two ago?
But that crap on Friday night shows they have a culture problem. Hinkley looked like a two bob school yard bully and the simpering grinning idiots in his team looked like the gutless gormless maggots who stand behind bullies and give them permission to behave badly.
He is a sooky loser and a bad winner. His work on Friday was disgraceful and unedifying and well below the standards required of a leader of men.
The great irony is that he has now given every other team an excuse to hate him and his team.
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It's also why they flicked Primus.

Yeah they were crap and he was average, but he's one of the least adversarial blokes around despite being a Port man.

They need coaches that feed off that mentality, to whip the players up like that.
 
not sure if this is the thread for it, obviously ken tremendous ego to make it about himself and the afl as usual acting like a nanny state

but the audacity of sam mitchell to complain at all, the guy was a complete grub as a player both in terms of dirty acts and verbals, and even knifed his multi premiership coach to get the job. i'm surprised he didn't get any heat from the media about suddenly trying to play the good guy
 

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North have lost the plot if they recruit Jack Darling on a multi year deal

He is charcoal crisp level of cooked.

Looks like they are falling into the experience trap
 
Grotto's Good News.

Mark Robinson: Ken Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide in 2025​

Ken Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide next season – you can lock that in, writes MARK ROBINSON. But a certain AFL figure won’t be welcome, with the Power filthy at the league’s embarrassing overstep.

The night of drama at Adelaide Oval has left Port Adelaide wiser after the event.

Firstly, Ken Hinkley will be coaching Port Adelaide next year – you can take that to the bank.

The 12-year coach will become a 13-year coach regardless if Port wins this weekend and hereon officially ends the blood-sport discussion about whether Hinkley will be sacked or not.

He won’t be at West Coast next year. He won’t have to plead to fulfil the final year of his contract. No, Hinkley will be coach and he has the total support of the club.

Character wins, which was witnessed on Friday night when Port beat the highly rated Hawks, was another reminder that Hinkley is a damned good coach who embodies everything that is Port Adelaide. Backs to the wall, never surrender and all that jazz.

In that sense, Hinkley is just like his predecessor Mark Williams.

Now, if he could only emulate “Choco” and deliver the Power a premiership.


Secondly, AFL general counsel Stephen Meade won’t be invited to the club anytime soon.

Port is steaming with anger over the $20,000 fine to Hinkley for “conduct unbecoming” and if Port was not preparing for a preliminary final this weekend, the entire football club would’ve marched on AFL House with pitchforks and torches.
The Power is filthy because they believe Meade, who is the AFL’s secret service agent who specialises in punishment, has unfairly targeted the club several times.

In this case, Port’s fury is justified.

The AFL’s penalty is an embarrassing overstep to an event that was embarrassing on many fronts, but hardly worthy of Meade’s heavy-handedness.

In fact, Port was expecting a cautionary tut-tut from headquarters and then a follow-up email warning them to start planning the festivities around a rematch at next year’s Gather Round.

That’s how the AFL thinks. It slaps you with one hand and then tickles you with the other.

Even when Port Adelaide president David Koch bumped into the AFL’s top brass – Andrew Dillon and Laura Kane – at Adelaide airport on Saturday morning, the strong impression Koch got was that the theatre of the night before was an unfortunate event, but one not to be too distressed about.

fter all, isn’t sport just theatre with villains and victors? As long as no-one gets hurt.

The only thing that got hurt on Friday night was feelings, firstly James Sicily, then Sam Mitchell and not least the feelings of the posse of former Hawks gladiators – Luke Hodge, Jordan Lewis and Dermott Brereton. Once a competitor, always a competitor, and their reactions were part of the theatre, too. All of it was transfixing.

To then have Meade fine Hinkley $20,000 seemed utterly ridiculous to the crime – if it even was a crime.

Port Adelaide believes the Hinkley taunt is not even close to Jason McCartney’s physical confrontation and abuse of Sydney’s Tom Papley the week before, yet Hinkley copped the same $20k.

Port still believes Meade’s three-week suspension of Jeremy Finlayson for an homophobic slur towards an Essendon player was excessive when compared to North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson’s penalty – $20,000 and a two-week suspended ban – for homophobic slur to St Kilda’s Jimmy Webster. Both were homophobic slurs, but only one was suspended.

Also, Port is accepting of the $100,000 fine for breaching concussion management protocols around Aliir Aliir and Lachie Jones in 2023, but bemused how this year Geelong’s Jeremy Cameron stayed on the park, slightly dazed, after landing on his head in a marking contest.

Rightly or wrongly, Port feels terribly aggrieved about the Hinkley fine but, truth be known, the club is somewhat proud of itself for giving it back to the upstart and heavy-celebratory Hawks. It makes next year’s Gather Round – with Hinkley in charge – a marketer’s dream.

Just don’t count on an invitation from Port Adelaide, Mr Meade.

 
GROTTO said:
Grotto's Good News.

Mark Robinson: Ken Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide in 2025​

Ken Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide next season – you can lock that in, writes MARK ROBINSON. But a certain AFL figure won’t be welcome, with the Power filthy at the league’s embarrassing overstep.

The night of drama at Adelaide Oval has left Port Adelaide wiser after the event.

Firstly, Ken Hinkley will be coaching Port Adelaide next year – you can take that to the bank.

The 12-year coach will become a 13-year coach regardless if Port wins this weekend and hereon officially ends the blood-sport discussion about whether Hinkley will be sacked or not.

He won’t be at West Coast next year. He won’t have to plead to fulfil the final year of his contract. No, Hinkley will be coach and he has the total support of the club.

Character wins, which was witnessed on Friday night when Port beat the highly rated Hawks, was another reminder that Hinkley is a damned good coach who embodies everything that is Port Adelaide. Backs to the wall, never surrender and all that jazz.

In that sense, Hinkley is just like his predecessor Mark Williams.

Now, if he could only emulate “Choco” and deliver the Power a premiership.


Secondly, AFL general counsel Stephen Meade won’t be invited to the club anytime soon.

Port is steaming with anger over the $20,000 fine to Hinkley for “conduct unbecoming” and if Port was not preparing for a preliminary final this weekend, the entire football club would’ve marched on AFL House with pitchforks and torches.
The Power is filthy because they believe Meade, who is the AFL’s secret service agent who specialises in punishment, has unfairly targeted the club several times.

In this case, Port’s fury is justified.

The AFL’s penalty is an embarrassing overstep to an event that was embarrassing on many fronts, but hardly worthy of Meade’s heavy-handedness.

In fact, Port was expecting a cautionary tut-tut from headquarters and then a follow-up email warning them to start planning the festivities around a rematch at next year’s Gather Round.

That’s how the AFL thinks. It slaps you with one hand and then tickles you with the other.

Even when Port Adelaide president David Koch bumped into the AFL’s top brass – Andrew Dillon and Laura Kane – at Adelaide airport on Saturday morning, the strong impression Koch got was that the theatre of the night before was an unfortunate event, but one not to be too distressed about.

fter all, isn’t sport just theatre with villains and victors? As long as no-one gets hurt.

The only thing that got hurt on Friday night was feelings, firstly James Sicily, then Sam Mitchell and not least the feelings of the posse of former Hawks gladiators – Luke Hodge, Jordan Lewis and Dermott Brereton. Once a competitor, always a competitor, and their reactions were part of the theatre, too. All of it was transfixing.

To then have Meade fine Hinkley $20,000 seemed utterly ridiculous to the crime – if it even was a crime.

Port Adelaide believes the Hinkley taunt is not even close to Jason McCartney’s physical confrontation and abuse of Sydney’s Tom Papley the week before, yet Hinkley copped the same $20k.

Port still believes Meade’s three-week suspension of Jeremy Finlayson for an homophobic slur towards an Essendon player was excessive when compared to North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson’s penalty – $20,000 and a two-week suspended ban – for homophobic slur to St Kilda’s Jimmy Webster. Both were homophobic slurs, but only one was suspended.

Also, Port is accepting of the $100,000 fine for breaching concussion management protocols around Aliir Aliir and Lachie Jones in 2023, but bemused how this year Geelong’s Jeremy Cameron stayed on the park, slightly dazed, after landing on his head in a marking contest.

Rightly or wrongly, Port feels terribly aggrieved about the Hinkley fine but, truth be known, the club is somewhat proud of itself for giving it back to the upstart and heavy-celebratory Hawks. It makes next year’s Gather Round – with Hinkley in charge – a marketer’s dream.

Just don’t count on an invitation from Port Adelaide, Mr Meade.

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Fragile club with a fragile response to a post, with a fragile coach that goes too far after the game, and now with a fragile response to the sanctions applied due to their fragility
 
GROTTO said:
Grotto's Good News.

Mark Robinson: Ken Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide in 2025​

Ken Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide next season – you can lock that in, writes MARK ROBINSON. But a certain AFL figure won’t be welcome, with the Power filthy at the league’s embarrassing overstep.

The night of drama at Adelaide Oval has left Port Adelaide wiser after the event.

Firstly, Ken Hinkley will be coaching Port Adelaide next year – you can take that to the bank.

The 12-year coach will become a 13-year coach regardless if Port wins this weekend and hereon officially ends the blood-sport discussion about whether Hinkley will be sacked or not.

He won’t be at West Coast next year. He won’t have to plead to fulfil the final year of his contract. No, Hinkley will be coach and he has the total support of the club.

Character wins, which was witnessed on Friday night when Port beat the highly rated Hawks, was another reminder that Hinkley is a damned good coach who embodies everything that is Port Adelaide. Backs to the wall, never surrender and all that jazz.

In that sense, Hinkley is just like his predecessor Mark Williams.

Now, if he could only emulate “Choco” and deliver the Power a premiership.


Secondly, AFL general counsel Stephen Meade won’t be invited to the club anytime soon.

Port is steaming with anger over the $20,000 fine to Hinkley for “conduct unbecoming” and if Port was not preparing for a preliminary final this weekend, the entire football club would’ve marched on AFL House with pitchforks and torches.
The Power is filthy because they believe Meade, who is the AFL’s secret service agent who specialises in punishment, has unfairly targeted the club several times.

In this case, Port’s fury is justified.

The AFL’s penalty is an embarrassing overstep to an event that was embarrassing on many fronts, but hardly worthy of Meade’s heavy-handedness.

In fact, Port was expecting a cautionary tut-tut from headquarters and then a follow-up email warning them to start planning the festivities around a rematch at next year’s Gather Round.

That’s how the AFL thinks. It slaps you with one hand and then tickles you with the other.

Even when Port Adelaide president David Koch bumped into the AFL’s top brass – Andrew Dillon and Laura Kane – at Adelaide airport on Saturday morning, the strong impression Koch got was that the theatre of the night before was an unfortunate event, but one not to be too distressed about.

fter all, isn’t sport just theatre with villains and victors? As long as no-one gets hurt.

The only thing that got hurt on Friday night was feelings, firstly James Sicily, then Sam Mitchell and not least the feelings of the posse of former Hawks gladiators – Luke Hodge, Jordan Lewis and Dermott Brereton. Once a competitor, always a competitor, and their reactions were part of the theatre, too. All of it was transfixing.

To then have Meade fine Hinkley $20,000 seemed utterly ridiculous to the crime – if it even was a crime.

Port Adelaide believes the Hinkley taunt is not even close to Jason McCartney’s physical confrontation and abuse of Sydney’s Tom Papley the week before, yet Hinkley copped the same $20k.

Port still believes Meade’s three-week suspension of Jeremy Finlayson for an homophobic slur towards an Essendon player was excessive when compared to North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson’s penalty – $20,000 and a two-week suspended ban – for homophobic slur to St Kilda’s Jimmy Webster. Both were homophobic slurs, but only one was suspended.

Also, Port is accepting of the $100,000 fine for breaching concussion management protocols around Aliir Aliir and Lachie Jones in 2023, but bemused how this year Geelong’s Jeremy Cameron stayed on the park, slightly dazed, after landing on his head in a marking contest.

Rightly or wrongly, Port feels terribly aggrieved about the Hinkley fine but, truth be known, the club is somewhat proud of itself for giving it back to the upstart and heavy-celebratory Hawks. It makes next year’s Gather Round – with Hinkley in charge – a marketer’s dream.

Just don’t count on an invitation from Port Adelaide, Mr Meade.

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Hard to disagree with this. We are expert victims here and love to complain (rightly) about unfair AFL treatment (umpiring, suspensions, etc.)
 
Scorpus said:
Fragile club with a fragile response to a post, with a fragile coach that goes too far after the game, and now with a fragile response to the sanctions applied due to their fragility
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Kenny is like the clubs relief valve when they get a win after mounting pressure - and it's glorious when he blows off


I also find Mitchell, Sicily, Lewis, Hodge and Brereton's tanty's pathetic.

Particularly Mitchell, after some of the garbage he's thrown out over the years Mitchell displayed toddler level tantrums
 
GROTTO said:
Grotto's Good News.

Mark Robinson: Ken Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide in 2025​

Ken Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide next season – you can lock that in, writes MARK ROBINSON. But a certain AFL figure won’t be welcome, with the Power filthy at the league’s embarrassing overstep.

The night of drama at Adelaide Oval has left Port Adelaide wiser after the event.

Firstly, Ken Hinkley will be coaching Port Adelaide next year – you can take that to the bank.

The 12-year coach will become a 13-year coach regardless if Port wins this weekend and hereon officially ends the blood-sport discussion about whether Hinkley will be sacked or not.

He won’t be at West Coast next year. He won’t have to plead to fulfil the final year of his contract. No, Hinkley will be coach and he has the total support of the club.

Character wins, which was witnessed on Friday night when Port beat the highly rated Hawks, was another reminder that Hinkley is a damned good coach who embodies everything that is Port Adelaide. Backs to the wall, never surrender and all that jazz.

In that sense, Hinkley is just like his predecessor Mark Williams.

Now, if he could only emulate “Choco” and deliver the Power a premiership.


Secondly, AFL general counsel Stephen Meade won’t be invited to the club anytime soon.

Port is steaming with anger over the $20,000 fine to Hinkley for “conduct unbecoming” and if Port was not preparing for a preliminary final this weekend, the entire football club would’ve marched on AFL House with pitchforks and torches.
The Power is filthy because they believe Meade, who is the AFL’s secret service agent who specialises in punishment, has unfairly targeted the club several times.

In this case, Port’s fury is justified.

The AFL’s penalty is an embarrassing overstep to an event that was embarrassing on many fronts, but hardly worthy of Meade’s heavy-handedness.

In fact, Port was expecting a cautionary tut-tut from headquarters and then a follow-up email warning them to start planning the festivities around a rematch at next year’s Gather Round.

That’s how the AFL thinks. It slaps you with one hand and then tickles you with the other.

Even when Port Adelaide president David Koch bumped into the AFL’s top brass – Andrew Dillon and Laura Kane – at Adelaide airport on Saturday morning, the strong impression Koch got was that the theatre of the night before was an unfortunate event, but one not to be too distressed about.

fter all, isn’t sport just theatre with villains and victors? As long as no-one gets hurt.

The only thing that got hurt on Friday night was feelings, firstly James Sicily, then Sam Mitchell and not least the feelings of the posse of former Hawks gladiators – Luke Hodge, Jordan Lewis and Dermott Brereton. Once a competitor, always a competitor, and their reactions were part of the theatre, too. All of it was transfixing.

To then have Meade fine Hinkley $20,000 seemed utterly ridiculous to the crime – if it even was a crime.

Port Adelaide believes the Hinkley taunt is not even close to Jason McCartney’s physical confrontation and abuse of Sydney’s Tom Papley the week before, yet Hinkley copped the same $20k.

Port still believes Meade’s three-week suspension of Jeremy Finlayson for an homophobic slur towards an Essendon player was excessive when compared to North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson’s penalty – $20,000 and a two-week suspended ban – for homophobic slur to St Kilda’s Jimmy Webster. Both were homophobic slurs, but only one was suspended.

Also, Port is accepting of the $100,000 fine for breaching concussion management protocols around Aliir Aliir and Lachie Jones in 2023, but bemused how this year Geelong’s Jeremy Cameron stayed on the park, slightly dazed, after landing on his head in a marking contest.

Rightly or wrongly, Port feels terribly aggrieved about the Hinkley fine but, truth be known, the club is somewhat proud of itself for giving it back to the upstart and heavy-celebratory Hawks. It makes next year’s Gather Round – with Hinkley in charge – a marketer’s dream.

Just don’t count on an invitation from Port Adelaide, Mr Meade.

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Bit rich for them to complain about Cameron when they literally did the same thing with Marshall on Friday. Lucky the AFL isnt fining them again.
 
GameofSloanes said:
Bit rich for them to complain about Cameron when they literally did the same thing with Marshall on Friday. Lucky the AFL isnt fining them again.
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Cameron didn't or refused to come off of the field

Both Allir and Jones were in lala land and they sent Allir back on without even bothering to test him at all

They then initially claimed Jones only had a migrane so he'd be available to play the following week
 
PeterSalt said:
Kenny is like the clubs relief valve when they get a win after mounting pressure - and it's glorious when he blows off


I also find Mitchell, Sicily, Lewis, Hodge and Brereton's tanty's pathetic.

Particularly Mitchell, after some of the garbage he's thrown out over the years Mitchell displayed toddler level tantrums
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There’d be no issues if it was the players that got stuck into Ginniven, but becuase it was the coach that’s where it got ugly.
 
FR0GGY said:
There’d be no issues if it was the players that got stuck into Ginniven, but becuase it was the coach that’s where it got ugly.
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Yeah .. did Scott ever fined for his outbursts at oppo teams players? I can't remember. I do remember Selwood dragging him away from at least 1 tantrum


Mitchell was being precious, as is the Melbourne media
 

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