Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion

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That's it hey.

Shows how many teams have won clumps of flags lately like Tiges Hawks lions.

Is it better to win 2 flags in 20 years 10 years apart or 2 in a couple of years then 20 years of nothing.



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I would prefer one flag every 10 years over 3 decades, than a three-peat once every 30 years. It is great to see your team rebuild, hoping that they've got the right pieces, the early excitement as a rebuild leads to finals appearance, the harsh reality that you usually have to slide back to get the right pieces and the absolute elation when you manage to actually win a flag. Listening to fans of teams that win a bunch of flags in a short period, there is definitely a case of diminishing returns and fans re-setting the bar - so a premiership is seen as a pass mark each season (not the amazing achievement that it is).

It feels like our 1994 flag suffers from this. We had the amazing achievement of taking the flag out of Victoria in 1992, the disappointment of 1993 and then a season where we finished top and steamrolled our way through finals in 1994. It's our largest winning margin for any flag, but it is also the one most fans rarely talk about (as it feels like it is overshadowed by 1992).
 
I would prefer one flag every 10 years over 3 decades, than a three-peat once every 30 years. It is great to see your team rebuild, hoping that they've got the right pieces, the early excitement as a rebuild leads to finals appearance, the harsh reality that you usually have to slide back to get the right pieces and the absolute elation when you manage to actually win a flag. Listening to fans of teams that win a bunch of flags in a short period, there is definitely a case of diminishing returns and fans re-setting the bar - so a premiership is seen as a pass mark each season (not the amazing achievement that it is).

It feels like our 1994 flag suffers from this. We had the amazing achievement of taking the flag out of Victoria in 1992, the disappointment of 1993 and then a season where we finished top and steamrolled our way through finals in 1994. It's our largest winning margin for any flag, but it is also the one most fans rarely talk about (as it feels like it is overshadowed by 1992).
There was an element of expectation that we’d win in 1994 that removed some of the genuine excitement that defined the other 3 wins
 

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I dont really want to go there but the anti vax crew will jump on this.
They ****ing already have

I am triggered by this so will log off for a minute
 
JFC

That was a pretty routine tackle/hit before he basically dropped dead

Hope he’s ok

This is the problem with head injuries TBH. Things just have to twist the slight wrong way, particularly if the skull is lifted and you either have a quadriplegic or a Phil Hughes situation. So much is random bad luck.
 
I don’t really buy this concept that players are constantly getting better over time such that teams from 1980 would get flogged by teams from 2000, who themselves would get flogged by 2020 players etc.

Dunno why, it just feels like something we tell ourselves each generation. What’s the logical conclusion? Will players in 2080 be that much exponentially more elite than those in 2040?

Agree.

The argument is sports medicine and fitness are miles ahead.

What they don't factor in is those players from the past like Liegh Matthews would scare three colours of sh!t out of players in the current era and they wouldn't go near him.

Class like Matera, Mainwaring would still hold their own on the running side of the game. Quality talls like Lloyd and Carey would still do their thing.

The likes of Tony Shaw and Mark Williams mids likely would struggle.
 

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This is the problem with head injuries TBH. Things just have to twist the slight wrong way, particularly if the skull is lifted and you either have a quadriplegic or a Phil Hughes situation. So much is random bad luck.
Been reported as a cardiac arrest and no mention of any head injury. Didn’t appear to be any head contact in the tackle either

But your point stands in that there’s a lot of luck, good or bad, involved with head injuries
 

So what Vicco team does he end up at in 24 as a great feel good story? Stkilda, Geelong or Richmond?


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I'm prepared to go out on a limb and take him at his word that he has no interest in playing footy at AFL level in the future.
 
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