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MrWoollie said:
If everything in the article/list is true then it is quite incredible.

It reads like a middle aged white 1950's redneck boys club attitude to everyone else.

It appears that some of us haven't got the memo that the world has changed.
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The only thing I have a problem with really is [if true] the bit where he says he doesn't give a **** what they put in the special indigenous room. Odds are that if its decided its a good for whatever reason to have a special room at club hq that is designated as an indigenous space, and the CEO feels the need to expresses contempt for that, then his values aren't really aligning with what the clubs trying to achieve and that's a problem. I have no idea what the purpose of the room is so I'd be interested to know more of what that's about. I'm an 80's child and so I always see things through a lens of like, isn't this not really the kind of direction we want to be heading in? Why are we having racially defined spaces? Isn't this just some weird new manifestation of segregation or something? But, my guess is it's not something like that at all and the space is meaningful to the indigenous players for good reasons and so Kelly's attitude is merely an indication he's not a good leader. If it was my club I'd probably want him gone for that. Given its Collingwood I don't particularly care.

Now so far as the rest of it, lets review the claims being made by the ex employee:

Action: tossed me a ball during meeting at football club.
Translation: physical assault.

Action: used the determiner "our" when referring to indigenous people, "I love our indigenous people"
Translation: thinks he owns Indigenous people, coloniser mentality? does he realise Aboriginal people are human beings and that they are not owned by anyone?

Action: refers to person who corrected and chastised him for referring to Indigenous people as "our indigenous people" as a grumpy old whatever [who he tried and apparently succeeded in "winning over" after a bumpy start]
Translation: racist.

Action: Asian person walks into traffic, comments "statistic'' and tries to run her over??
Translation: Racist, possibly homocidal.

Action: See's "Free Palestine" sign, says if Jewish lady at work saw that she's probably not like it so hypothetically it'd be funny to send her a picture of the sign because she's particularly sensitive about pro-Palestinian sentiment.
Translation: Racist, specifically anti-semetic.

Action: Needs to drive somewhere with guy who is disabled and probably drives some sort of weird mini-van, jokes about taking his car instead because its "a mans car"
Translation: homophobic.

Cynically you'd say that Collingwood has foolishly invited into its four walls an external consultant during its anti-racism efforts and they've recommended that the indigenous players be given a special room and the clubs dragged its heals putting that in place but is now being forced too, and CEO Kelly thinks its ridiculous and vents, while acquiescing, to an Indigenous employee. Not long afterward the club terminates said individuals employment so that employee gets a lawyer and makes sure the press reports every stupid thing he's ever said privately so that he can be tarred and feathered as a racist homophobic antisemite and sacked from his job.

To me, the nature of the accusations say more about the claimant than the perpetrator. It would seem to me that if you are going to make any kind of real progress toward creating an environment in which Indigenous players can grow into the best version of themselves as humans and athletes then you need people of higher character than that in your program. Being indigenous, gay and disabled doesn't automatically make you an asset to your organisation and anyone who engages in character assassination through making such petty claims as have been forwarded here is certainly not going to meet the standard required. Equally, if the way Adam Simpson talked at press conferences shat me for not befitting an elite sporting organisation then I can definitely say Craig Kelly carrying on as CEO like his office is no different from an early 90's locker room is also far short of whats required. It doesn't make him a terrible person it just means the games probably gone past him.

The mistake I think people make here is thinking anyone benefits from a situation like this playing out in the media. The right thing to do by Cleaver if he cared about the player environment is speak to the board about the Kelly and do no more than that, because actually indigenous welfare issues are more important than one mans job. If the second your contract is terminated or a recommendation from an external review isn't implemented the answer is to go to the media with complaints like "an asian lady jaywalked and Craig Kelly joked that she could've be run over. what a racist" or "I'm gay and Craig Kelly said his Monaro was a more manly than my Nissan Qashqai, what a homophobe" and that interferes with celebrating a champions players 400th game and probably also you have to find a new CEO, then why would any club ever be stupid enough to put itself in the kind of position Collingwood and Hawthorn have put themselves in by hiring individuals or firms like this in future?

I really hope this doesn't happen, but I just get a sense that the AFL ins't really big enough, and individual clubs are not really big enough, to be taking on just infinity lawsuits that are either doing repetitional damage or manifesting financial damages. The Clarkson, Fagan and now probably Kelly situations, regardless of how you see them are all the result of hires and processes that clubs have themselves initiated. Any of which has the potential now to bankrupt these clubs. There have to be consequences of that and the consequence is not going to be the elimination of racism in society. The reality is that clubs are drafting less Indigenous players than they have in a long time and story's like this are undoubtably a part of that. In time there will probably be a trend toward less Indigenous engagement of all kinds. Just sucks really. We need to evolve away from causing situations in which instead of making progress everyone loses.
 
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The funny thing to me is Kelly actually embraced the inclusiveness mantra. It sounds like he treated Cleaver exactly the same as he would have any CIS gender hetero cornfed whitey out of a proper Melbourne private school.

Cleaver just didn't like Kelly's 70's/80's alpha "Ozzie as" male attitudes.

Maybe a case of be careful what you wish for!
 

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sharps24 said:
The only thing I have a problem with really is [if true] the bit where he says he doesn't give a **** what they put in the special indigenous room. Odds are that if its decided its a good for whatever reason to have a special room at club hq that is designated as an indigenous space, and the CEO feels the need to expresses contempt for that, then his values aren't really aligning with what the clubs trying to achieve and that's a problem. I have no idea what the purpose of the room is so I'd be interested to know more of what that's about. I'm an 80's child and so I always see things through a lens of like, isn't this not really the kind of direction we want to be heading in? Why are we having racially defined spaces? Isn't this just some weird new manifestation of segregation or something? But, my guess is it's not something like that at all and the space is meaningful to the indigenous players for good reasons and so Kelly's attitude is merely an indication he's not a good leader. If it was my club I'd probably want him gone for that. Given its Collingwood I don't particularly care.

Now so far as the rest of it, lets review the claims being made by the ex employee:

Action: tossed me a ball during meeting at football club.
Translation: physical assault.

Action: used the determiner "our" when referring to indigenous people, "I love our indigenous people"
Translation: thinks he owns Indigenous people, coloniser mentality? does he realise Aboriginal people are human beings and that they are not owned by anyone?

Action: refers to person who corrected and chastised him for referring to Indigenous people as "our indigenous people" as a grumpy old whatever [who he tried and apparently succeeded in "winning over" after a bumpy start]
Translation: racist.

Action: Asian person walks into traffic, comments "statistic'' and tries to run her over??
Translation: Racist, possibly homocidal.

Action: See's "Free Palestine" sign, says if Jewish lady at work saw that she's probably not like it so hypothetically it'd be funny to send her a picture of the sign because she's particularly sensitive about pro-Palestinian sentiment.
Translation: Racist, specifically anti-semetic.

Action: Needs to drive somewhere with guy who is disabled and probably drives some sort of weird mini-van, jokes about taking his car instead because its "a mans car"
Translation: homophobic.

Cynically you'd say that Collingwood has foolishly invited into its four walls an external consultant during its anti-racism efforts and they've recommended that the indigenous players be given a special room and the clubs dragged its heals putting that in place but is now being forced too, and CEO Kelly thinks its ridiculous and vents, while acquiescing, to an Indigenous employee. Not long afterward the club terminates said individuals employment so that employee gets a lawyer and makes sure the press reports every stupid thing he's ever said privately so that he can be tarred and feathered as a racist homophobic antisemite and sacked from his job.

To me, the nature of the accusations say more about the claimant than the perpetrator. It would seem to me that if you are going to make any kind of real progress toward creating an environment in which Indigenous players can grow into the best version of themselves as humans and athletes then you need people of higher character than that in your program. Being indigenous, gay and disabled doesn't automatically make you an asset to your organisation and anyone who engages in character assassination through making such petty claims as have been forwarded here is certainly not going to meet the standard required. Equally, if the way Adam Simpson talked at press conferences shat me for not befitting an elite sporting organisation then I can definitely say Craig Kelly carrying on as CEO like his office is no different from an early 90's locker room is also far short of whats required. It doesn't make him a terrible person it just means the games probably gone past him.

The mistake I think people make here is thinking anyone benefits from a situation like this playing out in the media. The right thing to do by Cleaver if he cared about the player environment is speak to the board about the Kelly and do no more than that, because actually indigenous welfare issues are more important than one mans job. If the second your contract is terminated or a recommendation from an external review isn't implemented the answer is to go to the media with complaints like "an asian lady jaywalked and Craig Kelly joked that she could've be run over. what a racist" or "I'm gay and Craig Kelly said his Monaro was a more manly than my Nissan Qashqai, what a homophobe" and that interferes with celebrating a champions players 400th game and probably also you have to find a new CEO, then why would any club ever be stupid enough to put itself in the kind of position Collingwood and Hawthorn have put themselves in by hiring individuals or firms like this in future?

I really hope this doesn't happen, but I just get a sense that the AFL ins't really big enough, and individual clubs are not really big enough, to be taking on just infinity lawsuits that are either doing repetitional damage or manifesting financial damages. The Clarkson, Fagan and now probably Kelly situations, regardless of how you see them are all the result of hires and processes that clubs have themselves initiated. Any of which has the potential now to bankrupt these clubs. There have to be consequences of that and the consequence is not going to be the elimination of racism in society. The reality is that clubs are drafting less Indigenous players than they have in a long time and story's like this are undoubtably a part of that. In time there will probably be a trend toward less Indigenous engagement of all kinds. Just sucks really. We need to evolve away from causing situations in which instead of making progress everyone loses.
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The kind of shit Kelly said is entirely fine to joke about with your close mates, in a private setting, provided they share a similar sense of humour.

It is absolutely NOT ok to act like this with colleagues and yell random abuse at strangers in the street.

Kelly's alleged behaviour is completely unhinged.
 
sharps24 said:
The only thing I have a problem with really is [if true] the bit where he says he doesn't give a **** what they put in the special indigenous room. Odds are that if its decided its a good for whatever reason to have a special room at club hq that is designated as an indigenous space, and the CEO feels the need to expresses contempt for that, then his values aren't really aligning with what the clubs trying to achieve and that's a problem. I have no idea what the purpose of the room is so I'd be interested to know more of what that's about. I'm an 80's child and so I always see things through a lens of like, isn't this not really the kind of direction we want to be heading in? Why are we having racially defined spaces? Isn't this just some weird new manifestation of segregation or something? But, my guess is it's not something like that at all and the space is meaningful to the indigenous players for good reasons and so Kelly's attitude is merely an indication he's not a good leader. If it was my club I'd probably want him gone for that. Given its Collingwood I don't particularly care.

Now so far as the rest of it, lets review the claims being made by the ex employee:

Action: tossed me a ball during meeting at football club.
Translation: physical assault.

Action: used the determiner "our" when referring to indigenous people, "I love our indigenous people"
Translation: thinks he owns Indigenous people, coloniser mentality? does he realise Aboriginal people are human beings and that they are not owned by anyone?

Action: refers to person who corrected and chastised him for referring to Indigenous people as "our indigenous people" as a grumpy old whatever [who he tried and apparently succeeded in "winning over" after a bumpy start]
Translation: racist.

Action: Asian person walks into traffic, comments "statistic'' and tries to run her over??
Translation: Racist, possibly homocidal.

Action: See's "Free Palestine" sign, says if Jewish lady at work saw that she's probably not like it so hypothetically it'd be funny to send her a picture of the sign because she's particularly sensitive about pro-Palestinian sentiment.
Translation: Racist, specifically anti-semetic.

Action: Needs to drive somewhere with guy who is disabled and probably drives some sort of weird mini-van, jokes about taking his car instead because its "a mans car"
Translation: homophobic.

Cynically you'd say that Collingwood has foolishly invited into its four walls an external consultant during its anti-racism efforts and they've recommended that the indigenous players be given a special room and the clubs dragged its heals putting that in place but is now being forced too, and CEO Kelly thinks its ridiculous and vents, while acquiescing, to an Indigenous employee. Not long afterward the club terminates said individuals employment so that employee gets a lawyer and makes sure the press reports every stupid thing he's ever said privately so that he can be tarred and feathered as a racist homophobic antisemite and sacked from his job.

To me, the nature of the accusations say more about the claimant than the perpetrator. It would seem to me that if you are going to make any kind of real progress toward creating an environment in which Indigenous players can grow into the best version of themselves as humans and athletes then you need people of higher character than that in your program. Being indigenous, gay and disabled doesn't automatically make you an asset to your organisation and anyone who engages in character assassination through making such petty claims as have been forwarded here is certainly not going to meet the standard required. Equally, if the way Adam Simpson talked at press conferences shat me for not befitting an elite sporting organisation then I can definitely say Craig Kelly carrying on as CEO like his office is no different from an early 90's locker room is also far short of whats required. It doesn't make him a terrible person it just means the games probably gone past him.

The mistake I think people make here is thinking anyone benefits from a situation like this playing out in the media. The right thing to do by Cleaver if he cared about the player environment is speak to the board about the Kelly and do no more than that, because actually indigenous welfare issues are more important than one mans job. If the second your contract is terminated or a recommendation from an external review isn't implemented the answer is to go to the media with complaints like "an asian lady jaywalked and Craig Kelly joked that she could've be run over. what a racist" or "I'm gay and Craig Kelly said his Monaro was a more manly than my Nissan Qashqai, what a homophobe" and that interferes with celebrating a champions players 400th game and probably also you have to find a new CEO, then why would any club ever be stupid enough to put itself in the kind of position Collingwood and Hawthorn have put themselves in by hiring individuals or firms like this in future?

I really hope this doesn't happen, but I just get a sense that the AFL ins't really big enough, and individual clubs are not really big enough, to be taking on just infinity lawsuits that are either doing repetitional damage or manifesting financial damages. The Clarkson, Fagan and now probably Kelly situations, regardless of how you see them are all the result of hires and processes that clubs have themselves initiated. Any of which has the potential now to bankrupt these clubs. There have to be consequences of that and the consequence is not going to be the elimination of racism in society. The reality is that clubs are drafting less Indigenous players than they have in a long time and story's like this are undoubtably a part of that. In time there will probably be a trend toward less Indigenous engagement of all kinds. Just sucks really. We need to evolve away from causing situations in which instead of making progress everyone loses.
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WCEswift said:
its way worse in the article

Collingwood is facing a fresh racism scandal, with chief executive Craig Kelly accused of joking about putting a “live f***ing possum” in a special room for Indigenous players and calling an Aboriginal elder a “dumb old bitch”.
In explosive court documents, Kelly is accused of a series of racial slurs and physical assaults by the club’s former head of First Nations strategy Mark Cleaver, a “Palawa person” who was engaged by the Magpies in the wake of the 2021 “Do Better” crisis.
The documents were filed with the Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia on Monday.
In addition to the accusations of Indigenous slurs, Mr Cleaver claimed that Kelly also joked about sending a photograph of a ‘Free Palestine’ sign to a Jewish colleague to wind her up.
According to the documents, on February 6, 2024, Mr Kelly and Mr Cleaver met with community, foundation and facilities executive general manager Kerrie Brewer in her office about Collingwood’s community strategy.
During the meeting the need for a “cultural room” was raised, it is alleged in the documents. “We need to get this cultural room launched, (Collingwood president) Jeff (Browne) has been on my arse about it,” Kelly is alleged to have said.
Mr Cleaver told him: “The next step is to go through all the cultural artefacts, with Leon Davis to decide what goes in the room.”
The documents then assert: “Mr Kelly picked up a marngrook (a ball made of possum hair used by Indigenous peoples in Victoria) that was on the desk and said ‘I don’t give a f*** what you put in there, put this shit in there’ and forcefully threw the marngrook at Mr Cleaver.
“The marngrook hit Mr Cleaver, which humiliated them and caused them pain because of the paresthesia caused by their multiple sclerosis.
“Mr Kelly continued talking and said ‘I don’t give a f*** if you put a live f***ing possum in there, just get Jeff and Jodie (Sizer) off my arse’.
Ms Brewer is alleged to have responded by saying: “Great one, Ned (Kelly), that’s not culturally safe.”
The documents state that Kelly then “laughed”, prompting Ms Brewer to comment “not appropriate”.
Kelly is alleged to have then said: “I know it’s inappropriate.”
They also detail how Collingwood met with Indigenous support group Dardi Munwurro on March 18, with the organisation claiming it had not been paid $500,000 promised from CGU sponsorship funds after the “Do Better” racism scandal.
After Kelly said he really cared “about our Indigenous people”, documents assert Indigenous elder Aunty Carol Thorpe said “you don’t say ‘our’, we don’t belong to you”.
As they drove from the meeting in Kelly’s car, the documents allege that the club chief asked: “Who was that old bird?”
After Mr Cleaver told him it was “Aunty Carol” – the wife of Dardi Munwurro chief Alan Thorpe – he claimed: “Kelly laughed and said ‘That dumb old bitch was really angry but I got her to come around’.”
“As they drove back to Collingwood’s office … a free Palestine sign was painted on a building. Mr Kelly said ‘quick take a photo of that, send it to Galit and watch her go off’,” the documents allege.
Kelly was referring to Galit Yaary, who is Collingwood’s executive general manager for people and culture and is Jewish.
It is further alleged in the documents: “About halfway back to the office, on or about High Street or Hoddle Street … an Asian lady was walking across the road nearing the middle of the road. Mr Kelly swerved the car so it passed close by her, yelled “statistic” and laughed.”
In another exchange in his car on March 18, Kelly is alleged to have said to Mr Cleaver: “Why do you need to use google maps? I assume your people can navigate with their eyes closed.”
Earlier during that trip, Mr Cleaver – who documents detail is gay – alleges Mr Kelly told him “we are taking my car; it’s a real man’s car”.
When Mr Cleaver joked that he thought Kelly “flew by helicopter”, he said the club chief called him a “dickhead” and “jabbed” him “forcefully in the shoulder” causing him “to fall backwards”.
The documents were filed as part of an application against Mr Cleaver’s dismissal, in which he’s seeking compensation for “hurt, humiliation and distress and economic loss”.
They also reveal Mr Cleaver made a statement to Victoria Police over Mr Kelly’s “physical assaults” on April 20.
On April 24, Mr Cleaver was told to work from home then was informed two days later during a three-hour meeting with the club that his complaints were not proven.
The live possum comment was “not substantiated”, it was found Mr Kelly “tossed” the marngrook to Mr Cleaver, and his comments about Mr Cleaver’s disability was “acknowledged but not deemed ableist or racist”.
The Herald Sun is not suggesting any of the claims are true, only that they have been made in documents before the court.
Mr Cleaver was suspended on full pay on May 1 after receiving a letter from Mr Browne “setting out allegations against Cleaver”.
On May 6 his employment was terminated, hours after Maurice Blackburn wrote to the club it had been hired to represent Mr Cleaver, who also claims to have made a complaint to the AFL integrity unit on March 25.
The case is listed for a court hearing on August 27.
Mr Cleaver was employed by the club in November 2023 as part of a series of commitments after the “Do Better” scandal and resignation of long-time president Eddie McGuire.
“Do Better” was a secret report which found there was “systemic racism within the Collingwood Football Club that must be addressed if things are to change”.
The damning 35-page independent report, which was kept under wraps by McGuire’s board, said the club’s response to repeated incidents of racism “has been at best ineffective, or at worst exacerbated the impact”.
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This is unintentionally hilarious.

Craig Kelly is way out of line and can't be acting like that as a leader. He's clearly not culturally aligned with what they say they are trying to do (however, I question whether the organisation actually wants those values or more likely it's lip service). He can't stay in the job with those attitudes.

They've also clearly gone and grabbed a bunch of people advising them that don't align with the organisation either. They've grabbed a non-binary gay person to be their advisor who clearly takes this stuff very seriously and also doesn't align with the tough edge in a football club. The culture clash is clear in the exercerpts.

I'd be moving them all on and finding a new group who could actually get along.
 
WCEswift said:
its way worse in the article

Collingwood is facing a fresh racism scandal, with chief executive Craig Kelly accused of joking about putting a “live f***ing possum” in a special room for Indigenous players and calling an Aboriginal elder a “dumb old bitch”.
In explosive court documents, Kelly is accused of a series of racial slurs and physical assaults by the club’s former head of First Nations strategy Mark Cleaver, a “Palawa person” who was engaged by the Magpies in the wake of the 2021 “Do Better” crisis.
The documents were filed with the Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia on Monday.
In addition to the accusations of Indigenous slurs, Mr Cleaver claimed that Kelly also joked about sending a photograph of a ‘Free Palestine’ sign to a Jewish colleague to wind her up.
According to the documents, on February 6, 2024, Mr Kelly and Mr Cleaver met with community, foundation and facilities executive general manager Kerrie Brewer in her office about Collingwood’s community strategy.
During the meeting the need for a “cultural room” was raised, it is alleged in the documents. “We need to get this cultural room launched, (Collingwood president) Jeff (Browne) has been on my arse about it,” Kelly is alleged to have said.
Mr Cleaver told him: “The next step is to go through all the cultural artefacts, with Leon Davis to decide what goes in the room.”
The documents then assert: “Mr Kelly picked up a marngrook (a ball made of possum hair used by Indigenous peoples in Victoria) that was on the desk and said ‘I don’t give a f*** what you put in there, put this shit in there’ and forcefully threw the marngrook at Mr Cleaver.
“The marngrook hit Mr Cleaver, which humiliated them and caused them pain because of the paresthesia caused by their multiple sclerosis.
“Mr Kelly continued talking and said ‘I don’t give a f*** if you put a live f***ing possum in there, just get Jeff and Jodie (Sizer) off my arse’.
Ms Brewer is alleged to have responded by saying: “Great one, Ned (Kelly), that’s not culturally safe.”
The documents state that Kelly then “laughed”, prompting Ms Brewer to comment “not appropriate”.
Kelly is alleged to have then said: “I know it’s inappropriate.”
They also detail how Collingwood met with Indigenous support group Dardi Munwurro on March 18, with the organisation claiming it had not been paid $500,000 promised from CGU sponsorship funds after the “Do Better” racism scandal.
After Kelly said he really cared “about our Indigenous people”, documents assert Indigenous elder Aunty Carol Thorpe said “you don’t say ‘our’, we don’t belong to you”.
As they drove from the meeting in Kelly’s car, the documents allege that the club chief asked: “Who was that old bird?”
After Mr Cleaver told him it was “Aunty Carol” – the wife of Dardi Munwurro chief Alan Thorpe – he claimed: “Kelly laughed and said ‘That dumb old bitch was really angry but I got her to come around’.”
“As they drove back to Collingwood’s office … a free Palestine sign was painted on a building. Mr Kelly said ‘quick take a photo of that, send it to Galit and watch her go off’,” the documents allege.
Kelly was referring to Galit Yaary, who is Collingwood’s executive general manager for people and culture and is Jewish.
It is further alleged in the documents: “About halfway back to the office, on or about High Street or Hoddle Street … an Asian lady was walking across the road nearing the middle of the road. Mr Kelly swerved the car so it passed close by her, yelled “statistic” and laughed.”
In another exchange in his car on March 18, Kelly is alleged to have said to Mr Cleaver: “Why do you need to use google maps? I assume your people can navigate with their eyes closed.”
Earlier during that trip, Mr Cleaver – who documents detail is gay – alleges Mr Kelly told him “we are taking my car; it’s a real man’s car”.
When Mr Cleaver joked that he thought Kelly “flew by helicopter”, he said the club chief called him a “dickhead” and “jabbed” him “forcefully in the shoulder” causing him “to fall backwards”.
The documents were filed as part of an application against Mr Cleaver’s dismissal, in which he’s seeking compensation for “hurt, humiliation and distress and economic loss”.
They also reveal Mr Cleaver made a statement to Victoria Police over Mr Kelly’s “physical assaults” on April 20.
On April 24, Mr Cleaver was told to work from home then was informed two days later during a three-hour meeting with the club that his complaints were not proven.
The live possum comment was “not substantiated”, it was found Mr Kelly “tossed” the marngrook to Mr Cleaver, and his comments about Mr Cleaver’s disability was “acknowledged but not deemed ableist or racist”.
The Herald Sun is not suggesting any of the claims are true, only that they have been made in documents before the court.
Mr Cleaver was suspended on full pay on May 1 after receiving a letter from Mr Browne “setting out allegations against Cleaver”.
On May 6 his employment was terminated, hours after Maurice Blackburn wrote to the club it had been hired to represent Mr Cleaver, who also claims to have made a complaint to the AFL integrity unit on March 25.
The case is listed for a court hearing on August 27.
Mr Cleaver was employed by the club in November 2023 as part of a series of commitments after the “Do Better” scandal and resignation of long-time president Eddie McGuire.
“Do Better” was a secret report which found there was “systemic racism within the Collingwood Football Club that must be addressed if things are to change”.
The damning 35-page independent report, which was kept under wraps by McGuire’s board, said the club’s response to repeated incidents of racism “has been at best ineffective, or at worst exacerbated the impact”.
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Kelly sounds like some caricature character cross of Ted Bullpitt and John Elliott in a Full Frontal sketch.
 
RookiePick said:
The funny thing to me is Kelly actually embraced the inclusiveness mantra. It sounds like he treated Cleaver exactly the same as he would have any CIS gender hetero cornfed whitey out of a proper Melbourne private school.

Cleaver just didn't like Kelly's 70's/80's alpha "Ozzie as" male attitudes.

Maybe a case of be careful what you wish for!
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Or Kelly could've acted like a professional and respected his numerous complaints about his behaviour?

Kelly sounds like a total buffoon.

Perfect for Collingwood.
 

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