Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion

[Ambrose Burnside]

I hopped over to their board to see their reactions, and whilst it was fairly boring, there was one post that made me laugh. Apparently some Bulldogs supporter decided to give them crap, and this was one of the responses



Self awareness is in short supply at Moorabbin, apparently.

This can't be real

 

[HoneyBadger35]

“We’d hoped nobody would mind and we could have a bit of a free hit. We didn’t realise people still cared, whoopsie.”

 

[squashface]

Lol what a gutter club

 

[Keys]

“We’d hoped nobody would mind and we could have a bit of a free hit. We didn’t realise people still cared, whoopsie.”

The report that their football manager met Thomas came out two days ago

It’s taken them that long to provide a response that would’ve taken all of 5 minutes to write

 

[Forward Press]

“We’d hoped nobody would mind and we could have a bit of a free hit. We didn’t realise people still cared, whoopsie.”

Another translation: "We would've got away with it, if it weren't for you meddling kids that saw Gubby meeting with TT in a back corner of a restaurant!"

There is no doubt they wanted him on their list, but now they will try and keep the meetings more clandestine. This is a club with Ross Lyon (again), Arie Schoenmaker, Andrew Lovett, Kim Duthie etc etc in their recent past.

Shit-stain of a club.

 

[Bender_]

Don't take this other than a point of discussion, but at what point do we say you can't be an AFL player anymore? Is it an age thing where we can say that they're young, can be educated and perhaps set a positive example by reforming? Or is it a talent thing?

Is it possible for Thomas to learn something from this and become a better person, or is he done? If he gets back to playing footy and never reoffends is it a success? If he's banned from the league and ends up spiralling and hurting someone again should we be surprised?

It's tough - and I get he's in an industry where he can make serious coin and should be expected to set an example - but what else does he have to offer for his future if not footy?

Not trying to get sympathy for him. I'm not smart enough to know how to properly deal with this situation.

 

[Keys]

Another translation: "We would've got away with it, if it weren't for you meddling kids that saw Gubby meeting with TT in a back corner of a restaurant!"

There is no doubt they wanted him on their list, but now they will try and keep the meetings more clandestine. This is a club with Ross Lyon (again), Arie Schoenmaker, Andrew Lovett, Kim Duthie etc etc in their recent past.

Shit-stain of a club.

 

[Monocle]

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[WCEswift]

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He and i share the same name, despite looking nothing alike and me being 6'8 i get lit up on facebook dms by randoms all the time

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Don't take this other than a point of discussion, but at what point do we say you can't be an AFL player anymore? Is it an age thing where we can say that they're young, can be educated and perhaps set a positive example by reforming? Or is it a talent thing?

Is it possible for Thomas to learn something from this and become a better person, or is he done? If he gets back to playing footy and never reoffends is it a success? If he's banned from the league and ends up spiralling and hurting someone again should we be surprised?

It's tough - and I get he's in an industry where he can make serious coin and should be expected to set an example - but what else does he have to offer for his future if not footy?

Not trying to get sympathy for him. I'm not smart enough to know how to properly deal with this situation.

Lurking on the Saints board for their assessment, and someone asked for a bit more background on Thomas when the news first broke on Wednesday. A Roos fan chimed in with the below:

He’s committed low level (by that I mean non chargeable) domestic violence acts across a range of women from 2022-2023.

He was made to undergo counselling and rehab, which at first he treated like a joke. He finally passed what was required of him, came back to the afl and dominated for half of 2023.

He then started harassing one of the original women again, was investigated and fired.

He then harassed a women again, after being cut, and was subsequently charged by police.

So 3 groups of harassment, 2 of which came after counselling/rehab.

I think when you’ve had that many chances, and clearly the rehab isn’t working, at a certain point it’s fine to say no, you’re actually not allowed to play elite sport for massive coin anymore. It’s not in line with the values of our organisation.

People say “well if he were an accountant, would he never be able to be an accountant again?” and I suppose the answer to that is it would be on a firm by firm basis. If one firm said he could never work for them because he’s had multiple chances and failed spectacularly every step of the way, they’re not obligated to give him a fiftieth chance. If a firm was happy to take the risk, then he’d get another go and, as you say, maybe eventually one of the chances would take.

But if you get two, three, more chances after transgressions of this severity, and handle the rehabilitation element of the punishment so poorly, it’s not unfair for the league to say we don’t want this represented in our ranks and he can’t play here anymore. Go kick at the park with your mates on the weekend if you want to play footy still. As for his future, I wouldn’t be opposed to an ongoing counselling or mentor connection to ensure he doesn’t entirely spiral but, given the insurance company has just pulled concussion payments, I reckon the AFL have a lot bigger fish to fry than where Tarryn Thomas finds himself after however many chances.

In an ideal world, yes, there’d be a lot more safety rails for guys who finish up for whatever reason and fall into drugs, drinking, gambling etc, but the AFL doesn’t give a **** about that, they just care about avoiding lawsuits and turning as much revenue over as possible.

Fair question as to what the AFL does allow vs not allowing (De Goey says hi), but there’s been plenty of AFL calibre athletes who have imploded their career for one reason or another - nobody is entitled to play elite spot for big bucks and at a certain point if you won’t take your second, third, fourth, tenth chance, nobody is obligated to keep giving them to you. If anything, talented blokes get way too many chances in this league as is.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

He and i share the same name, despite looking nothing alike and me being 6'8 i get lit up on facebook dms by randoms all the time

Can you ruck on the weekend please?

 

[WCEswift]

Can you ruck on the weekend please?

i havent run or jumped in a decade but ill be a big annoying body xD

 

[TY24]

“We’d hoped nobody would mind and we could have a bit of a free hit. We didn’t realise people still cared, whoopsie.”

Did someone say due diligence?

 

[cottoneyeYeo]

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He looked real damaging on the weekend, when he let Merrett waltz out of the centre clearance with the game on the line

that was more serong no

 

[TY24]

that was more serong no

 

[RookiePick]

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[KERRPOW]

Reckon the pies will win this one.

 

[FKASC]

Reckon the pies will win this one.

Same but surely the Swans flick the switch back eventually

 

[KERRPOW]

Pies playing nervous

 

[KERRPOW]

Bizzare

 

[KERRPOW]

HTB must only exist if your an eagle

 

[Priddis Is Done]

I agree with this guy, people forget just how good Shuey was in the GF

Makes me want to rewatch it again tonight

 

[Bender_]

Is there zero atmosphere at this game?

 

[squashface]

Football media always tries to convince me that some player moving from one minnow Vic club to another is HUGE BREAKING NEWS.

Viney to Norf is all over my twitter - who could possibly care?

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Is there zero atmosphere at this game?

Funeral procession requires quiet.