Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion

[flamingEMBERS]

First, thanks for responding. I put this idea on a few different threads and no one offered their opinion

Specifically, why isn’t it good for west coast?

Makes the competition more Vic centric and will be a big Vic wankfest for 6 months with the Non vic sides a footnote.

Commercially the non vic sides will suffer as they will rarely have FTA national audiences in big games.

You gotta let go of the suburban league

 

[MrWoollie]

You gotta let go of the suburban league

Not wrong.

Bite the bullet and make it 16 teams if you add Tassie and ACT, 14 if you don't.

That would entail folding/merging/relocating four teams. 3 are obvious, one less so.

2 teams each from WA, SA, NSW, QLD and one from Tas and one from ACT = 10.
6 from Vic, Geelong plus 5 in Melbourne.

Move Hawthorn to Tas and St Kilda to ACT. Edit - the biggest problem with this is that the SE corridor is underrepresented and the Western side overly so.
Fold North.

That leaves the not so obvious. Merge Melbourne and Richmond? Or Essendon and Dogs?

 

[Ochre]

A 20 team circus or a 10- 12 team elite comp? I guess it's about what the money people want.

I don't like my family enough to want 3 to 4 less games of football a week. People overestimate how much better the quality would be too.

 

[squashface]

Keep it as 18 teams

Bin Norf and Saints

Bring in Tassie and Canberra

Consider relocating the Suns to Darwin

 

[the harry]

Keep it as 18 teams

Bin Norf and Saints

Bring in Tassie and Canberra

Consider relocating the Suns to Darwin

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the Suns will "make it" on the coast.

 

[Phas]

For all the talk of reducing teams to increase quality, why not explore reducing the on field teams instead?

The game is usually at its best when there's more space late in quarters, why not make that from the get go.

Do we also need games to go for 4x 34 minute quarters?

While I agree there's some commercially pointless clubs like St.K, Norf, GCS etc. I think there's scope for a 20 club comp and retain quality.

 

[Avalor]

For all the talk of reducing teams to increase quality, why not explore reducing the on field teams instead?

The game is usually at its best when there's more space late in quarters, why not make that from the get go.

Do we also need games to go for 4x 34 minute quarters?

While I agree there's some commercially pointless clubs like St.K, Norf, GCS etc. I think there's scope for a 20 club comp and retain quality.

Like the AFLW - reduce the starting lineup to 16, not 18, do away with a pocket - might help reduce congestion.

 

[Doashuey]

Bring back the Zooper goals while we are at it.
Its not as if the AFL havent bastardised the game enough for the sole purpose of increasing TV revenue.

 

[Keys]

Devastating for this young bloke.

Fought his way back from an ACL to get picked up by Essendon in last year’s mid season draft

Now it’s done it again

Footy can be cruel

 

[Truckosaurus]

A bit early but same or different leg? I remember when Naitanui did his other ACL his specialist said it wasn't uncommon for the other one to go after recovering from the first.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Bring back the Zooper goals while we are at it.
Its not as if the AFL havent bastardised the game enough for the sole purpose of increasing TV revenue.

Maybe, but AFLW is a more contested game than AFL (obivously aspects such as absolute athleticism and kicking distance play a factor). It can be argued with less players to populate the ground, the more incentive there is to keep things contained in tight. Do lesser numbers just shrink the functional 'ground'?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

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is getting the leave him alone because of mental health (drugs) issue from the media ?

This is the same media who chased down ben cousins relentlessly for the same issues .

 

[Nuke Fremantle]

The perennial problem with AFL fixturing is having 10 teams from the one state. I'm not sure what the solution is but it has to involve equalising the number of travels as much as possible. ie Instead of non-Vic teams travelling 10-11 times per year and Vic teams travelling 5-6 times a year, make it about 8 times for everyone.

Obviously a team from WA is always going to spend more miles in the air, you can't overcome geography, but it's also about getting to the airport then getting to a hotel, sleeping in a hotel bed, flying home whilst physically fatigued etc etc. If the Vic teams had to go through all those things as often as a non-Vic team then perhaps we're getting closer to equalisation.

 

[Doashuey]

Maybe, but AFLW is a more contested game than AFL (obivously aspects such as absolute athleticism and kicking distance play a factor). It can be argued with less players to populate the ground, the more incentive there is to keep things contained in tight. Do lesser numbers just shrink the functional 'ground'?

My point was counter to reducing the numbers in AFL. Or making any other rule changes for a while aside from perhaps winding back some of the more shit ones brought in in recent years. I can't stand how the AFL corporation is steadily pulling apart and bastardising our national game of Aussie Rules and turning into some pay per view entertainment product. **** off and leave the game alone you kents.

 

[Boohemian]

Maybe on that conference idea - perhaps the Victorian conference can battle it out for 1 of 4 spots in the National Comp, with relegation for the worst performed Vic team.





(I'm being silly).

 

[ziad]

Maybe on that conference idea - perhaps the Victorian conference can battle it out for 1 of 4 spots in the National Comp, with relegation for the worst performed Vic team.





(I'm being silly).

While a bit silly, relegation would sharpen up the comp.

 

[Rowan18]

While a bit silly, relegation would sharpen up the comp.

Relegation would be fantastic. Imagine the arse kicking our board would have given the executive and footy department if we had dropped down to a seconds comp at the end of 2022! The off field changes would have happened a year earlier and we'd be able to enjoy seeing our team win (albeit in a lower comp) rather than than distorting the ladder in the AFL.

Basket cases like North and Carlton would hopefully have died off by now in an organic fashion.

 

[MrWoollie]

Looking at other boarsd it seems that the most vocal about effectively reverting to a suburban, Melbourne centric competition are those that support the beggar clubs. They get the most dollars from the national competition but just want to play their mates down the road.

May I suggest to North and the AFL...
1. North are NOT an AFL organisation.
2. They are a VFL organisation.
3. There is a competition called the VFL that North already has a reserves team in.

How about putting all the North resources into the North Reserves VFL team and fold the AFL part.

When it comes to supporter base North are definitely more in the VFL zone than the AFL one.
When it comes to raising sponsorship are North any bigger or desirable as a club than say Williamstown or Port Melbourne?

 

[Goroyals22]

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making a good fist of cleaning up his act


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[Chris_6678]

Lachy Reid

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has a minor hamstring and in rehab group alongside Luke Ryan.
@freodockers

Another Juicy victim.

 

[The Gtrain]

Lachy Reid
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last night Sam Switkowski has a minor hamstring and in rehab group alongside Luke Ryan.
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Another Juicy victim.

Hmm sounds like the Perth dry heat is responsible for perishing hamstrings

 

[Chris_6678]

Mitch Cleary

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injured his hamstring at North Melbourne training today. More details on
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Juciyfest is one mean bastard.

 

[FKASC]

Christmas ham strings

 

[Mulldogg]

The Pies getting rightfully pilloried for the “repurposing” of their failed netball team’s facilities for its male football program. Going full Pyongyang with their social media trying to silence the dissenting voices.

 

[ziad]

Relegation would be fantastic. Imagine the arse kicking our board would have given the executive and footy department if we had dropped down to a seconds comp at the end of 2022! The off field changes would have happened a year earlier and we'd be able to enjoy seeing our team win (albeit in a lower comp) rather than than distorting the ladder in the AFL.

Basket cases like North and Carlton would hopefully have died off by now in an organic fashion.

I love the concept but the problem isn't the relegated club but the incoming club (almost certainly a VFL side I synically suspect) that will not have the revenue base to support an AFL programme.