Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion

[kane249]

Zita’s updates always deliver

 

[woosha24]

Ok so if the argument is "I had no control of the tackle".....should the player then be tackling? Havent they then failed their "duty of care"?

Its not a debate on whether or not it was a deliberate action?

 

[Biggie]

 

[KERRPOW]

They'll appeal

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

This isn't hard to work out. Turn him or bring it back onto yourself instead he went with the momentum and he hit his head on the ground.

 

[Smeg Head]

Massive amount of hand wringing about a driving tackle where the unprotected person hit their head. Especially when he had him wrapped up and didnt need to go to ground at all.

 

[woosha24]

There was a lot of copium being huffed on the Lions board after it happened, but I called it early and right. In no world is the AFL letting a guy go for concussing a player, whether on purpose or by accident. They DO NOT want the liability, and will change the game to ensure it doesnt happen in the future if they have to.

 

[shoutsatclouds]

Cameron's tackle is no worse than the dangerfield tackle a few weeks ago that was let off at the tribunal

Difference between Standard Good Bloke card with one credit, and Platinum Good Bloke card with unlimited credits.

Priceless...

 

[WCEswift]

It also looked that he had his head on duggans and drove his head into his as they hit the ground

 

[Mr Eagle]

When does he get punished for Country Roads???

 

[amazingjoshy]

Yeo and Kelly think Cameron's tackle was fine

‘Put a pillow under his head?’: Eagles star disputes ban

West Coast star Elliot Yeo has criticised the hefty ban handed down for a tackle that left Eagles co-captain Liam Duggan concussed as ‘wrong’.

thewest.com.au

 

[THE A5]

Yeo and Kelly think Cameron's tackle was fine

‘Put a pillow under his head?’: Eagles star disputes ban

West Coast star Elliot Yeo has criticised the hefty ban handed down for a tackle that left Eagles co-captain Liam Duggan concussed as ‘wrong’.

thewest.com.au

Yeah I’m surprised Yeo hasn’t been done for one yet tbh. In the late 2010’s Yeo was one the hardest tacklers and would drive blokes into the ground.

 

[amazingjoshy]

 

[DanWCE]

 

[wce4premiership]

As dumb as I think the AFL is I am kind of glad somebody else can feel the rage for once (as in different teams), because at times it felt like we were always on the end of this stuff.

 

[FKASC]

The Bedford one is worse. Basic tackle and Taranto just flopped to try and milk a free

 

[ziad]

Yeo and Kelly think Cameron's tackle was fine

‘Put a pillow under his head?’: Eagles star disputes ban

West Coast star Elliot Yeo has criticised the hefty ban handed down for a tackle that left Eagles co-captain Liam Duggan concussed as ‘wrong’.

thewest.com.au

Watching the game I thought, quite aggressive but ok, later with replays I thought it would be looked at.
On reflection head injuries need to be minimised, Duggan is out for a week minimum, perhaps more, and perhaps life long impacts. I don't think the tackle can be allowed.

Robbo and others wanting answers from the tribunal is dumb. Coaches and players need to change techniques to meet the new order. There are many alternative approaches, and necessity is the mother of invention.

 

[squashface]

Is it fair and reasonable to assume then if Bedford simply punched Taranto in the guts or swung a fist at his jaw instead of tackling then he would be getting less of a penalty than he is now?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Watching the game I thought, quite aggressive but ok, later with replays I thought it would be looked at.
On reflection head injuries need to be minimised, Duggan is out for a week minimum, perhaps more, and perhaps life long impacts. I don't think the tackle can be allowed.

Robbo and others wanting answers from the tribunal is dumb. Coaches and players need to change techniques to meet the new order. There are many alternative approaches, and necessity is the mother of invention.

What about Davies?

Afl wanted players to not go in head first , keep your feet , turn side on hip to hip to reduce the likelihood of head contact .

Jones was the player who went straight on head first and came off 2nd best yet the guy who did the right thing gets suspended.

The afl need to tell players the right way and the wrong way to attack contests .

You duck your head on purpose or go in the wrong way you may cop it.

 

[FKASC]

Is it fair and reasonable to assume then if Bedford simply punched Taranto in the guts or swung a fist at his jaw instead of tackling then he would be getting less of a penalty than he is now?

Definitely, assuming he didn’t bonk his head

 

[Barrybran]

I don't get the Bedford one. That was a good tackle.

 

[squashface]

I don't get the Bedford one. That was a good tackle.

It was pretty much textbook for what I was taught as a youngster when you’re chasing down a player.

Players don’t know what they can and can’t do anymore and I would say I’m confused as to why but I’m not - given the looming financial threat of a class action and ex players suing the AFL they want to be making it clear that they are doing everything in their power to “protect the head”.

Except they have it backwards and are suspending every single person who causes a concussion instead of the guys who are swinging fists and elbows at people.

Maybe if they spent the time and effort into providing good medical advice and professionals to game day (i.e. the Venables situation) and taking some responsibility instead of putting it all on the players in a split second moment of tackling in a contact sport - we may actually make some headway in mitigating long term concussion symptoms….or ACTUALLY protecting the head.

 

[Monocle]

The legal firm Dillon & Kane have:


2023 - Got rid of the bump.
2024 - Are getting rid of the tackle.
2024 - No nasty name calling, unless you are the North Melbourne Coach.
2025 - Will be introducing a change to next seasons uniform.




Even comes with an Indigenous Round uniform.



The AFL Commission, unwisely, gave the lawyers too much power and now " The Game " is trending this way.

 

[KERRPOW]

I thought it was pretty obvious now that like a bump, if you tackle and the player hits his head/gets concussed your ****ed

 

[Corn69]

We've lost 2 players permanently to concussion, one of them is suing the club and Afl.

This is Duggans second concussion this year. Cameron's tackle in my view was aggressive and unnecessary considering the arms were pinned and Duggan wasn't going anywhere.There was no need to slam him down.

Don't get why Kelly and Yeo find it acceptable to defend the bloke that concussed their captain.