Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVI

[ant555]

Mitigate risk yes, when it comes to sport however there is a fine line between mitigation and outright changing the sport to remove I entirely.
The AFL can show they have made steps to eliminate head impacts through tough suspensions and outlawing of certain acts.

Not being able to bring a player to ground is a fairly significant change that will be flirted with.
I'd assume we reach a point where if a player is stationary it will be made illegal to bring them to the ground.

What people need to accept however is that players and teams are going to try and eek out an advantage wherever possible. So any changes may encourage players to try and draw frees, exhibit A being head high contact. For some weird reason we have moved into an era where it's encouraged and seen as a skill rather than what it used to be.

I think potentially something that needs to be explored is a stronger interpretation of holding the ball. In fact much of today's "issues" regarding injury, umpiring etc all stem from how we adjudicate that whole area.

I'd like to see trialled, If a player has an arm pinned, and chooses to hold onto the ball that they give up their right to protections under the dangerous tackle ruling.
It could go the wrong way with encouraging people to tackle rather than win the ball and it could also lead to flicks and throws disguised as attempts to dispose of the ball but I think there's something that could be done around the whole piece.

When I learned to play in the 70's we where not taught grappling and slinging players to the ground. The game changes all the time and it is general coaches looking for an advantage like Sheedy who was happy to continually give away 15 meter penalties to set his defense so they changed it to 50 meters when others started doing the same.
The tackling rule is easy. Stop dumping blokes to the ground. Pins the arms and hold them. You do not need to counter level them to the ground. It was not in the game 20 years ago. It was something they started doing around 15 years ago using wresting coaches. It is not taught at junior level.
Coaches have also had an impact with holding the ball. It was their instruction to players to drag the ball in and create a stoppage so now we have the situation where you can be penalized for making the play.

 

[Zach Package]

Georgiades ACL confirmed.

I’m not sure whether stats back this up but I certainly feel as though it is becoming more prevalent as it used to be.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Crazy that Gold Coast's first ever win back in 2011 was against Port Adelaide and they haven't beaten them since. Not as crazy as what happened the following week of course.

Had a photo of the 1/4 Time score as my laptop background once.

 

[citizen-erased]

Jonas needs to appeal using the mckay defence

 

[jannissary]

melbourne look cooked, they should be smoking the tigers

 

[Megabattimus]

melbourne look cooked, they should be smoking the tigers

Tigers aren't as bad as their record suggests. Their second quarter against the Bulldogs was scary as ****. Their problem is they can't maintain for entire games at the moment.

 

[Donakebab]

Seems like we broke Melbourne.

 

[boncer34]

I'd be amused the commentators didn't know the reason it was 50 against Lever if I wasn't so ****ing sick of them not knowing the rules.

 

[citizen-erased]

I'd be amused the commentators didn't know the reason it was 50 against Lever if I wasn't so ******* sick of them not knowing the rules.

Not alone.
How was the 50 in the middle missed by the ump

 

[Zach Package]

That non 50 against Rioli junior in the middle might be the worst no call I’ve ever seen in my life.

Umpire was 8 metres away, he runs straight through the protected area and tackles the player to the ground and it’s somehow not 50.

He broke 3 rules in one go.

 

[raskolnikov]

Matthey Lloyd

 

[boncer34]

Not alone.
How was the 50 in the middle missed by the ump

Missed it. But my phone blew up

 

[Squeaky]

Oliver just chucked that like a basketball pass. No call! Bullshit!!

 

[Squeaky]

Matthey Lloyd

If you're going to stuff it up you do the Llyod.
Everyone knows that! Amateurs.

 

[jannissary]

call it a hot take but i think richmond play better without shai bolton

29

Shai Bolton

Age

26

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

 

[citizen-erased]

That non 50 against Rioli junior in the middle might be the worst no call I’ve ever seen in my life.

Umpire was 8 metres away, he runs straight through the protected area and tackles the player to the ground and it’s somehow not 50.

He broke 3 rules in one go.

And he got the next ball. :S

 

[Zach Package]

Find it really interesting that Dimma’s big play, and we are told he is a genius by the way, is to remake Richmond in Essendon’s image circa 2017.

They have more experience and more toys for sure, but this is chook lotto of the highest order.

 

[boncer34]

I reckon I saw around 4-5 of these, maybe more, over the weekend. They all have to go if Zac had to go.

Got a week. Unreal.

 

[raskolnikov]

Why does Melbourne's jumper remind me of a certain gif?

 

[ghostdog]

Just turned the tv on. Richmond is mucking with our hard earned gloss.

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

I reckon I saw around 4-5 of these, maybe more, over the weekend. They all have to go if Zac had to go.

I called Motlops dangerous in the GameDay thread and was shutdown, it shouldn't be but these days it is, so dumb.

 

[eth-dog]

Could ch7 be barracking for Richmond harder?

 

[Mercurial89]

Could ch7 be barracking for Richmond harder?

Careful they might hear you and take that bet.

I've forgotten how much I dislike Darcy

 

[ghostdog]

Cracking game. I thought I'd be checking in to see how much the Dees were thrashing them by, then watching Snowfall. Then Maurice smashed Brayshaw. Now I'm all in.

 

[ghostdog]

May looks like he's giving Riewoldt plenty of space. Is that the match up?