News & Events Non-Football COVID-19 Discussions

[jmoo wan]

Say you catch covid and are vaccinated and it doesn't do much to you, but then next year you get it again (you have had you're booster shot) but are perhaps a bit more sick from a variant that stronger, then the following year you get a mild case...and so on. What happens after we have had it 10 times. We will be allowing it to come, and allowing us to get it multiple times. Will there be some sort of damage to our bodies that will eventually catch up with us and make really sick.

No. The immune system doesn't work like that. Think of it like memories. For example - imagine yesterday you ate a really tasty looking jelly bean that was flavoured like a piece of dog shit and you ate it and thought, "this is really gross I am never doing that again". But then next year you see a piece of dog shit that looks delicious but that smells really similar to that jelly bean, and you take a really big sniff of it and it makes you a little woozy, but you remember that jelly bean flavoured dog shit that you ate last year, and decide not to eat it because it was nasty. And then the year after that, you come across another similar piece of dog shit that looks really tasty, but maybe this one is a different consistency, and so you have a little nibble, but then before you can go any further it triggers the memory of that dogshit flavoured jelly bean that you really didn't like, and you remember that it is a bad idea so you run away from that particular strain of dogshit.

its just like that.

The jelly bean is the vaccine, and covid is the dogshit.

 

[boncer34]

I know someone who does a fair bit of work in catholic schools and they have had 25 covid cleans in the last two weeks.

Along with the tracing, I’m wondering how long this can be sustained too.

Dan has said people who hope to wait out the Vaccine mandate will be waiting well into 2022, so I dare say we'll see this just as long.

The virus isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[Loonerty]

Obviously very early on but places are still watching the contact tracing up here in NSW pretty strictly. Mostly because of potentially being fined when they let in unvaccinated people (obv not the case for supermarkets and the like).

Will be interesting once we hit December 1st.

 

[boncer34]

Obviously very early on but places are still watching the contact tracing up here in NSW pretty strictly. Mostly because of potentially being fined when they let in unvaccinated people (obv not the case for supermarkets and the like).

Will be interesting once we hit December 1st.

Is that when the unvaccinated are allowed back?

 

[Loonerty]

Is that when the unvaccinated are allowed back?

Yep

 

[DERO]

Dan has said people who hope to wait out the Vaccine mandate will be waiting well into 2022, so I dare say we'll see this just as long.

The virus isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I’m wondering how long we can keep throwing money at it.

 

[Lore]

I’m wondering how long we can keep throwing money at it.

Depends on whether or not you buy into modern monetary theory

 

[boncer34]

I’m wondering how long we can keep throwing money at it.

As long as it takes I guess, the quick way to stop needing to throw money at it would be for people to get jabbed.

 

[boncer34]

Yep

It's going to be fascinating to watch from, relative, afar.

I suspect not quite as fascinating being part of it.

 

[pepsi]

I’m wondering how long we can keep throwing money at it.

The Victorian State Government seems to have an endless supply of money to do whatever they need during Covid...

 

[rumply]

I know someone who does a fair bit of work in catholic schools and they have had 25 covid cleans in the last two weeks.

Along with the tracing, I’m wondering how long this can be sustained too.

A secondary college here in Ballarat has been closed for a couple days now as a tier1, not sure when it's reopening.

 

[pepsi]

A secondary college here in Ballarat has been closed for a couple days now as a tier1, not sure when it's reopening.

A senior college in a suburb in the west that I work in was closed last Tuesday for a day after a case, reopened on Wednesday. On Sunday they were informed of another positive case that attended Friday and are still closed completing contact tracing.

Schools are going to be an absolute shambles for the rest of the term, if they keep this process up of having to close and deep clean and go through contact tracing before reopening. My school has 1500 odd students and we are located in an area with lots of active cases. We will be opening and closing constantly I feel.

 

[Lore]

The Victorian State Government seems to have an endless supply of money to do whatever they need during Covid...

It's interesting actually.

I just looked up the annual fiscal report (something I've never done before in my life) and the fiscal outcomes section on Page 2 starts;

The Government recorded a general government sector operating deficit of $14.6 billion for 2020-21.

The 2020-21 operating result was an improvement of $2.9 billion compared with the revised estimate in the 2021-22 Budget, in part due to higher than expected GST grants collected by the Commonwealth resulting from a stronger than expected recovery in economic activity in the June quarter, as well as lower than expected expenses due to the timing of expenditure programs across departments.

https://www.dtf.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/document/2020-21%20Financial%20Report.pdf

Intriguing that the budget and the fiscal report are so similar, and that the increase was a result of *increased* activity in the June quarter, compared to expectations.

Was the state government expecting more lockdowns in the June quarter than what we ended up with?

It goes on to talk about various other programs that made money or lost money compared to the expectations in the budget, but I'm not going to quote the whole thing. Only other things that seemed notable to me were the strong property market and lower revenue from traffic fines... Seems like being priced out of the housing market is keeping the economy afloat despite the lack of speeding tickets.

 

[DERO]

CBC St Kilda (St Mary’s) had a full covid clean last week.

I don’t know what what that would have cost but I do know that a clean of parts of Mentone Grammar came in at $45k.

 

[Lore]

a clean of parts of Mentone Grammar came in at $45k

How on earth does it cost that much? Did they have to replace all the furnishings or something?

 

[DERO]

How on earth does it cost that much? Did they have to replace all the furnishings or something?

Not that I am aware. A cleaner brought it in and the school made sure that every single space that that cleaner occupied during the previous shift was cleaned.

 

[faible]

How on earth does it cost that much? Did they have to replace all the furnishings or something?

I imagine they charge a hefty loading for doing what they'd usually do, but wearing hazmat suits.

 

[Loonerty]

We should just abolish money

 

[boncer34]

We should just abolish money

Just print more

 

[Lore]

 

[boncer34]

Cliffs?

 

[baz_machine]

we should have just started a cleaning company 18 months ago

 

[DERO]

we should have just started a cleaning company 18 months ago

If only it was that easy…

 

[Beerfish]

Cliffs?

 

[Old Campaigner]

Might be a few opportunities in the mines soon, with the mining companies turfing out all the unvaxxed FIFOs. I can't imagine that's a policy they'll be changing any time soon either, an outbreak at a mine site would be a nightmare for them to deal with.

 

[pepsi]

How does everyone feel about it the end of lockdown? I have feelings of apprehension (I work at a school in a suburb with the 6th most active cases) and a bit of unease. I realise we need to get on with things and open up again, but it's a different feeling opening up this time with thousands of daily new cases.