Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion 2023

[freo_leo29]

We’ve got a bad kick, who has won 2 Brownlows

Fyfes bad kicking has always been overstated

Erasmus is a genuine dud kick, hopefully we can get him to an average kick over time because the other parts of his game are in shape

 

[King Huskii]

Fyfes bad kicking has always been overstated

Erasmus is a genuine dud kick, hopefully we can get him to an average kick over time because the other parts of his game are in shape

Why did we recruit him then

 

[mightymouse75]

Why did we recruit him then

Cause we stupid campaigners

 

[King Huskii]

Cause we stupid campaigners

Have you seen him train?

We have had many years to recruit decent key forwards yet we are stuck with him. Not one club would be concerned with him lining up against them.

 

[Scham]

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Yep. I can’t get past how ugly Erasmus kicking was last year at peel. I’m not exaggerating to say it was horrific.
I do think he’s a lot more abrasive and tigerish and dynamic than Robertson besides that, but he’s an even worse kick.
* me I hope we see some improvement from his kicking at peel tomorrow compared to last year.
You won’t last long in the modern game if you can’t kick the ball properly

I think you are exaggerating. It's not that bad at all. I see him as a Coniglio not as a Robertson

 

[blue shark]

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I think you are exaggerating. It's not that bad at all. I see him as a Coniglio not as a Robertson

He was pick ten in the first round, the best player picked from this position is Dangerfield.
Would you say he is an elite kick? You want a quality forward well you probably
should be looking at a pick closer to where Amiss was selected or top 5.
As a forward/mid Neil kicks goals and wins possessions as an inside midfielder.
After he has reached 50 AFL games, then questions should be asked.
But what he has can’t be taught, that aggression is highly valued IMO and is
a part of premiership success as long as I can remember.
I don’t see too many inside mids with elite kicking, and forwards get judged on
goals.
I’d be questioning our off field decisions before players ATM, because who gets
games and who doesn’t makes no sense at all?

 

[royale with cheese]

True but those kind of unicorns come around once in 50 years at most clubs.
Also Nats field kicking has generally been excellent over the years of his dominance. Well ahead of Neil anyway.

Never saw Fyfe make a turnover early in his career as bad as Erasmus’s against Gold Coast was last year.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Jesus, we turning on Ras already? You lot are making it sound like he’s Zac Dawson

Zac Dawson

Age

38

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

34.4

1star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

level of bad kick. He’s in his second season, chill

 

[poshman]

Jesus, we turning on Ras already? You lot are making it sound like he’s Zac Dawson level of bad kick. He’s in his second season, chill

People going way too early.

I just want him in the team instead of banfield. Develop him as a HFF who plays a few minutes a 1/4 in the middle.

 

[royale with cheese]

Jesus, we turning on Ras already? You lot are making it sound like he’s Zac Dawson level of bad kick. He’s in his second season, chill

His kicking is pretty bad. He can still forge a decent career but he’ll have to be very good at the other parts of the game.

Port for some reason have quite a few potential father/son picks coming up. Someone posted the list on Reddit a couple of days ago and I think we are the only team other than the 2 expansion teams without a father/son prospect over the next 3 years.

We blew our first six years with useless players who never reached the 100 game mark.

That aside, Peter Daicos retired in the early 90s and Collingwood are only just seeing his kids play now. It can be a long wait.

 

[Scham]

His kicking is pretty bad. He can still forge a decent career but he’ll have to be very good at the other parts of the game.

We blew our first six years with useless players who never reached the 100 game mark.

That aside, Peter Daicos retired in the early 90s and Collingwood are only just seeing his kids play now. It can be a long wait.

His kicking can be bad, it can also be very good. He's inconsistent is all, which is normal, especially for a young player. The good kicks show that he can do it , he just needs to improve his consistency as every player does. Even the elite kicks, don't hit it every single time, no one is perfect.

 

[pK75]

Port for some reason have quite a few potential father/son picks coming up. Someone posted the list on Reddit a couple of days ago and I think we are the only team other than the 2 expansion teams without a father/son prospect over the next 3 years.

Don’t we have the Hayden boys over the next 3 years?

 

[freo_leo29]

Why did we recruit him then

Like I said, the other parts of his game are in order

Also kicking may not have looked as bad in lowerr forms with more time and space

 

[masai tu]

Imagine if we had a coach like theirs!

A footy season has many ups and downs, as I regularly say, during the season teams will soaring and flopping at different periods.

Some teams start the season with gusto, some with clogged fuel lines. The ones who started with gusto, start to run on fuel fumes, other teams clean their fuel lines.

Will the Saints start to tire ?. Will Carlton keep drinking the sugary koolaid?. Will Freo get into 3rd gear ?.

It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

 

[freo1997]

A footy season has many ups and downs, as I regularly say, during the season teams will soaring and flopping at different periods.

Some teams start the season with gusto, some with clogged fuel lines. The ones who started with gusto, start to run on fuel fumes, other teams clean their fuel lines.

Will the Saints start to tire ?. Will Carlton keep drinking the sugary koolaid?. Will Freo get into 3rd gear ?.

It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

Still….it’s important to nab some early wins. I am hoping we’re 3-3 after rd 6.

 

[Spirit Level]

Looks like a way to beat the Pies is to cheat out the back and hope it works

 

[Fyfster]

His kicking can be bad, it can also be very good. He's inconsistent is all, which is normal, especially for a young player. The good kicks show that he can do it , he just needs to improve his consistency as every player does. Even the elite kicks, don't hit it every single time, no one is perfect.

would we prefer an elite kick who only finds the ball 10 times a game ?

 

[Purpletown]

Collingwood's lack of a decent ruck cost them last night.

 

[wakojako]

Jesus, we turning on Ras already? You lot are making it sound like he’s Zac Dawson level of bad kick. He’s in his second season, chill

Lots of sensitive posters atm, going to get worse after the Adelaide game

 

[blue shark]

would we prefer an elite kick who only finds the ball 10 times a game ?

A midfield of Erasmus, Johnson together compliments each others games.
Erasmus is the perfect Crowley, Barlow replacement.
With Brayshaw, Serong that’s a good start to building a quality midfield.
Erasmus strengthens the resolve, allowing others to get off the chain.
I don’t see us winning anything without that quality, add Young and it’s hard
to see that failing?

 

[tonygeeks]

A midfield of Erasmus, Johnson together compliments each others games.
Erasmus is the perfect Crowley, Barlow replacement.
With Brayshaw, Serong that’s a good start to building a quality midfield.
Erasmus strengthens the resolve, allowing others to get off the chain.
I don’t see us winning anything without that quality, add Young and it’s hard
to see that failing?

I agree so why the **** are we giving 650k / 4yr deals to JOM and Will Brodie

These are the types of players and contracts other teams are giving up draft pick to get off their books

 

[freo84]

I agree so why the **** are we giving 650k / 4yr deals to JOM and Will Brodie

Because we're not....Hawks are paying a fair chunk of O'meara's salary.

Not sure on Brodie but I thought we weren't paying all of his either.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Because we're not....Hawks are paying a fair chunk of O'meara's salary.

Not sure on Brodie but I thought we weren't paying all of his either.

We just extended Brodie for 3 years. I like to think we gave him more years and he took a discount for it. That’s handy depth at the very least

 

[pK75]

We just extended Brodie for 3 years. I like to think we gave him more years and he took a discount for it. That’s handy depth at the very least

Does anyone have the inside word on what is was worth, 3 years at 450k I could live with, any more than that and I’d be wondering why if we drop him the very next week

 

[Joao]

Isn't dropping non-best 10 players immediately after signing a new contract expected? I swear it happens more than it doesn't.