Game Day Non-Swans Game Day Thread

[SM]

No, I'm fixating on "one of the two form sides of the comp so far", which either can't be judged credibly if only 4 sides of "the comp" have played twice, or if you do actually mean "the comp" then it has to include others like say the Cats, who would be a form side.

I can only explain that sentence so many times mate. You're interpreting it as me saying they're one of the best two teams in the comp on exposed form, and I've explained multiple times that's not how I was using the word form.

One last try. If a team needs, call it, 16 wins to make top 4 and have the best chance of winning the flag, GWS and Hawks only need 14 more wins. At best, everyone else still needs 15. Yes absolutely Cats were very impressive, and they're another who could win the flag. Yes absolutely, there are other teams who have also looked good. It's why I haven't yet ruled anyone out from winning the flag who I thought could win it pre-season!

I used the word form very literally - they have two wins, so do the Hawks, most others only have one or none! I wasn't trying to suggest they're one of the best two teams in the comp. It's why I included the snip of the ladder with the 'Form' column, where if you were able to sort it by Form, it'd have Giants and Hawks at the top, not because they're the best two, but because quite literally they have two wins. Does that help? If not, I can replace the sentence with "one of the two sides in the comp on two wins" and the context of my post wouldn't change, i.e. anyone saying they categorically cannot win the flag is being silly.

 

[Bloods86]

I used the word form very literally - they have two wins, so do the Hawks, most others only have one or none! I wasn't trying to suggest they're one of the best two teams in the comp. It's why I included the snip of the ladder with the 'Form' column, where if you were able to sort it by Form, it'd have Giants and Hawks at the top, not because they're the best two, but because quite literally they have two wins. Does that help? If not, I can replace the sentence with "one of the two sides in the comp on two wins" and the context of my post wouldn't change, i.e. anyone saying they categorically cannot win the flag is being silly.

No, it doesn't help your claim become credible.

But if you want to change your claim, then that's cool.

 

[SM]

No, it doesn't help your claim become credible.

But if you want to change your claim, then that's cool.

I really don't know why you've got such a bee in your bonnet over this when we're both agreeing that GWS are a flag chance and ruling them out at this stage would be silly. If you want to make this about the use of the word 'form' then go for your life. I'm not changing any claim nor the point of my posts. I'm still very confident I have a better idea of what my post meant than you do. Unfortunately this is one of the limitations of a text based forum as I think nuances around language can often be lost.

EDIT: Oh look I found an AFL form table I can sort by 2025 form!




I absolutely agree with you that being top of this form table means zero (which I think might be the nuance that you've missed in this conversation) about the quality of their side. It was a comment on their wins on the board and nothing more.

 

[Bloods86]

So we're agreeing that it's too early to say they can't win the flag? Great.

The only reason I brought up 'form side' was in reference to their wins in the bank. If you're trying to say we can't compare sides capabilities because we're one or two games in then you're actually agreeing with me, not disagreeing.

Anyway... I've said this before in another thread, maybe the General thread...

GWS have several who can stand up this year, despite off season losses. Leake, Gruzewski are already in spots in the 23 (for now at least).

They drafted well with Hannaford, Oliver (two I didn't mind from the draft) and Angove those who could have an impact in first year. Rowston is probably on the cusp if not for the mids he'd have to overcome. Aleer is waiting for an opportunity. Ough probably more medium to long term as a mid, but a good POD.

I think they'll be good, a flag challenger if everything clicks for long enough.

And that's without me rating Stringer's potential impact.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

But how was Carlton’s speed in the first half though according to David King?

 

[SM]

Anyway... I've said this before in another thread, maybe the General thread...

GWS have several who can stand up this year, despite off season losses. Leake, Gruzewski are already in spots in the 23 (for now at least).

They drafted well with Hannaford, Oliver (two I didn't mind from the draft) and Angove those who could have an impact in first year. Rowston is probably on the cusp if not for the mids he'd have to overcome. Aleer is waiting for an opportunity.

I think they'll be good, a flag challenger if everything clicks for long enough.

And that's without me rating Stringer's potential impact.

I think the scary thing for the comp is they haven't even got Hogan in there at the moment and he was such a big part of their success last year. I had actually thought they'd drop back a bit this year with his goal kicking reverting to the mean but it looks like others are stepping up to the plate.

 

[Bloods86]

I think the scary thing for the comp is they haven't even got Hogan in there at the moment and he was such a big part of their success last year. I had actually thought they'd drop back a bit this year with his goal kicking reverting to the mean but it looks like others are stepping up to the plate.

No doubt they will be capable of dominating teams. But remains to be seen if they can maintain the rage all year and get the W in big finals.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Nice piece of analysis by the ABC folk. Has applicability to us.

How the Tigers pulled off one of the biggest AFL upsets in recent memory

Naysayers may suggest Richmond's win over Carlton in round one was a fluke, but there was a method to the way the Tigers achieved the upset defeat.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Donza]

Who to barrack for tonight?

 

[robbieando]

Who to barrack for tonight?

An earthquake?

 

[Bloods86]

Who to barrack for tonight?

Blues. Always good to get points knocked off teams at the top.

 

[SM]

Blues. Always good to get points knocked off teams at the top.

Yep gotta barrack against one of the two form teams.

 

[Ticky009]

Oops - thanks for the reminder, all. Forgot there was a game tonight.

 

[SM]

Oops - thanks for the reminder, all. Forgot there was a game tonight.

Going the blues?

 

[Donza]

Oops - thanks for the reminder, all. Forgot there was a game tonight.

Soccer game on as well.

Will watch that.

 

[Ticky009]

Going the blues?

No.

 

[SM]

No.

I'm tempted to. Thursday always feels like an upset.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

I’ve tipped the Hawks tonight in the Obnoxious Fan Derby

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Why wasn’t that reviewed? Hawks getting away with shit again

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Wait, was a bullshit free to the Hawks?

 

[wolftone57]

I don't think Hawks are going to kick a huge score bombing it in to a forward line full of short people. Mind you they will have, and already have had, plenty of entries. If they actually decide to pass the ball they will flog Blues by 100

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[TheGoatBaron]

#FREEKICKCURNOW

 

[TheGoatBaron]

How was that not deliberate by Amon?

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Shakes head @ David King for using the word “******”

The “R” word

 

[wolftone57]

Blues would not be in this without the umpires and Hawks bombing instead of kicking to a lead.

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