North Melbourne's Aaron Edwards caught speeding - 38km's over the limit

[Blues_Man]

I agree, North have handled the situation very well, he totally deserves the punishment...but the cynic in me makes me wonder if his penalty would have been as harsh if he was their best player .

 

[dmc333]

Re: Aaron Edwards caught drink driving

If I drove 38km/h over the limit it wouldn't make the papers.

It probably would, but you'd get four lines of copy and be known as 'driver.'

 

[Pie eyed]

The reason being North nipped it in the butt straight away.

Let is be a lesson to Eddie on how to handle off field incidents.

Good to see North come down hard but had the exact same thing happened to a Collingwood player the media would run it for a week, get opinion from a dozen ex-police commissioners, call in the VicRoads chairman for comment and then run a public poll...Should player x be sacked?.

 

[KiwiRoo]

Good to see North come down hard but had the exact same thing happened to a Collingwood player the media would run it for a week, get opinion from a dozen ex-police commissioners, call in the VicRoads chairman for comment and then run a public poll...Should player x be sacked?.

Maybe if the Pies dealt with these things a bit more promptly it wouldnt come to that

 

[Pie eyed]

Maybe if the Pies dealt with these things a bit more promptly it wouldnt come to that

I applaud Norths quick action and I don't have any malice toward the player involved but I don't accept your assertion.
Collingwood sells papers and will always attract more media scrutiny.

Yes that sounds arrogant but the papers over the last 50 years bear out the facts.
Personally I would be more than happy if it were not the case.

 

[Mario the Lothario]

So on that basis, if you were to blow .049 on the breathalyser, you are entitled to decline a blood test that might read .05?

Correct. You would have to be barking mad to take the blood test.

 

[SirJimi05]

Correct. You would have to be barking mad to take the blood test.

No you would have to be barking mad not to take the second test.

And if a solicitor really told you this he needs to be shot.

If you blow .049 on the first reading you run the risk of blowing slightly over .05 on the second reading or perhaps lower then .049.

If you refuse the second test and is an automatic 24 month loss of license and .24 reading against your name.

Why would anyone do his if at worst they were going to be slightly over the limit?

Anyone that refuses the second test is completely stupid.

 

[Blues_Man]

I applaud Norths quick action and I don't have any malice toward the player involved but I don't accept your assertion.
Collingwood sells papers and will always attract more media scrutiny.

Yes that sounds arrogant but the papers over the last 50 years bear out the facts.
Personally I would be more than happy if it were not the case.

Much more of a story when the club president backs the players and then finds out they have been lying all along .

 

[Blues_Man]

Correct. You would have to be barking mad to take the blood test.

Yeah just lose your licence when the test might come back under the limit

The only reason a person would refuse the test is if they know they are well over the limit ..or have had stupid advice from some incompetent lawyer .

 

[Pie eyed]

Much more of a story when the club president backs the players and then finds out they have been lying all along .

You're talking about one incident not the general tenor over 50 odd years.
I could not be bothered arguing with you. If you can't see the facts for yourself then I'll never convince you....you're a Carlton supporter for gods sake.

Needless to say this will be old news in a few days and will never be spoken about again except on BF etc.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Yeah just lose your licence when the test might come back under the limit

The only reason a person would refuse the test is if they know they are well over the limit ..or have had stupid advice from some incompetent lawyer .

Or maybe its not just alcohol in their system and they are happy to not take the second test for that reason.

 

[Obeanie1]

Re: Aaron Edwards caught speeding

Another one for the hand wringers to get over excited about.

7 weeks of potential match payments for a speeding infringement.
Can just imagine that going down really well in the rest of the world.

"Sorry Johnny, they caught you speeding, so sorry, no wages for you for 7 weeks"

Well if Edwards had turned up to Woolworth's for work he would have been sacked just like the store manager who had one beer at lunch and went back to work with above a zero blood alcohol reading.

It depends on your employers employee code of conduct you agreed to when employed.

The speeding thing is bad. Turning up to work pissed is downright dumb. How can you train properly if you've been drinking so much you turn up to training still pissed / hungover?

The fine and the club suspension would have been increased due to his previous infractions so I'm finding it quite difficult to defend Edwards or criticise the penalties handed out!

 

[The Zebra]

Good to see North come down hard but had the exact same thing happened to a Collingwood player the media would run it for a week, get opinion from a dozen ex-police commissioners, call in the VicRoads chairman for comment and then run a public poll...Should player x be sacked?.

Gee you pies supporters get hysterical about this kind of stuff.

I don't know why - because all you do is attract the facts and the facts are that you club has been a repeat offender with these kind of incidents lately, and the fact that TAC was your sponsor made it a bigger story.

And even with that in mind, I don't remember the Cloke doing about 50 over the limit or that other spud who drink drove a scooter getting much more attention than this Edwards story - and they were in season!

If you think the Didak drama is comparable you are mad. The circus around that had very little to do with Collingwood, it had to do with Didak being a lairising, number 3 pick, who was out with a murderer a year prior, was in All Australian form, had just come off strict club imposed alcohol sanctions, fled the scene of an accident AND lied to police, coach, captain, teammates and president!

FFS - it wouldn't have mattered what club that happened at - it would have been a massive story anywhere.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Re: Aaron Edwards caught speeding

Well if Edwards had turned up to Woolworth's for work he would have been sacked just like the store manager who had one beer at lunch and went back to work with above a zero blood alcohol reading.

It depends on your employers employee code of conduct you agreed to when employed.

The speeding thing is bad. Turning up to work pissed is downright dumb. How can you train properly if you've been drinking so much you turn up to training still pissed / hungover?

The fine and the club suspension would have been increased due to his previous infractions so I'm finding it quite difficult to defend Edwards or criticise the penalties handed out!

You can't but by the end of training I bet you would know how too.

The Roos have been training pretty hard so he would have felt the pain.

What I dont get is that if Edwards refused/decined the second test then why didn't the Cops make him go to the station?

Is the first test inadmissable in court because there was no second reading?

 

[Mario the Lothario]

No you would have to be barking mad not to take the second test.

And if a solicitor really told you this he needs to be shot.

If you blow .049 on the first reading you run the risk of blowing slightly over .05 on the second reading or perhaps lower then .049.

If you refuse the second test and is an automatic 24 month loss of license and .24 reading against your name.

Why would anyone do his if at worst they were going to be slightly over the limit?

Anyone that refuses the second test is completely stupid.

My comments are in relation to blood testing, please don't confuse this with secondary breath testing like most of the morons in Bay 13.

This is a direct quote from a police officer in relation to blood testing:

I have taken 15 people for blood tests and every single one of them recorded higher blood alcohol readings than initially recorded. In one case a persons blood reading read as .03 higher than the initial tests showed.

 

[damochandler]

what an idiot and any other idio that would speed and driving under the influence of alcohol. its the number 1 cause of deaths on the road. what a clown

 

[Hinkley29]

I find it interesting that you don't bother to read the posts properly.

I didn't say that i think footballers should be role models and in fact im pretty sure that i said footballers have no moral obligation to be role models.

I will quote your post again:

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJimi05
Not all kids have good parents to look up to or to teach them right from wrong.

Whether we like it or not footballers will always be role models to some kids.


So are players role models to kids or not? Whether they should be, or have an obligation to be, is irrelevant. Either they are or they aren't. Which one is it?

 

[Hinkley29]

He wasn't just speading though.

He was speeding after being on the piss.

Well handled by North.

Steven Gerrard has been charged with a serious offence (assault and affray).

His club has done nothing, except fully support their player (who co-incidentally is their captain and most important player).

What is your opinion of how Liverpool handled the situation?

 

[kirky]

Well done North Melbourne on the action taken.

Firstly, he was driving 38km over the limit, not just over but way over.

Secondly, given he was speeding when picked up the first thing the police do now is breath test (for either drugs or drink). He blew over the limit and then didn't take the blood test.

Now what are we told about drinking and speeding all the time and this clown did both - its a god send he wasn't involved in a accident and injured or worse killed someone. His judgement is deplorable.

He is an AFL player being paid good money and if he doesn't want the responsibility of acting as a role model, well, then don't take the money!

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

I agree, North have handled the situation very well, he totally deserves the punishment...but the cynic in me makes me wonder if his penalty would have been as harsh if he was their best player .

Well, given we gave the best player we've had the arse after his indiscretion, I'd say yes.

Edwards is skating on very thin ice. If a young bloke jumps and takes his spot, he'll find it very difficult to convince us he should still be on the list.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

I applaud Norths quick action and I don't have any malice toward the player involved but I don't accept your assertion.
Collingwood sells papers and will always attract more media scrutiny.

Yes that sounds arrogant but the papers over the last 50 years bear out the facts.
Personally I would be more than happy if it were not the case.

Yes and no.

Edwards did what he did, North took quick action.

We didn't have Brayshaw out there claiming that Edwards would be accused of shooting JFK next.

You guys are a bigger club but you also make these things worse by the way you handle them.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Well done North Melbourne on the action taken.

Firstly, he was driving 38km over the limit, not just over but way over.

Secondly, given he was speeding when picked up the first thing the police do now is breath test (for either drugs or drink). He blew over the limit and then didn't take the blood test.

Now what are we told about drinking and speeding all the time and this clown did both - its a god send he wasn't involved in a accident and injured or worse killed someone. His judgement is deplorable.

He is an AFL player being paid good money and if he doesn't want the responsibility of acting as a role model, well, then don't take the money!

If he takes a pay cut can he have that invisible clause of him being a role model taken out of his contract?

 

[Z_K]

You guys are a bigger club but you also make these things worse by the way you handle them.

Yes, and the other smallish trade off is that they don't have to worry about losing their footy club if they have a sub-standard year or things go pear-shaped off field. You know, piddly stuff like that.

Collingwood fans who whinge about some bad press because they are popular, massive and rich can screw themselves with large gardening implements.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

Yes, and the other smallish trade off is that they don't have to worry about losing their footy club if they have a sub-standard year or things go pear-shaped off field. You know, piddly stuff like that.

Collingwood fans who whinge about some bad press because they are popular, massive and rich can screw themselves with large gardening implements.

Not to mention the fact that they also get to play 99 per cent of their games in Melbourne on a Friday night at their home ground

 

[Z_K]

Not to mention the fact that they also get to play 99 per cent of their games in Melbourne on a Friday night at their home ground

We'd beat them at Vic Park with our cheersquad playing in the back half, so it is of no concern IMO.