Umpiring North v Pies R14 - Should have been 50m ?

[Wosh]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/fans-fume-as-north-melbourne-denied-late-shot-on-goal-by-umpiring-howler/news-story/c068262109be5ac0f6fe2eb3cb44db3b

 

[Disco Dew]

Shows Roos have a lot of work to do if letting go of a 54 point lead is due to one umpiring decision.

I don’t think anyone is saying that but go off

 

[TW Sherrin]

I wonder if it were North v Geelong if this would even be discussed. Think the black and white stripes play a bit in it

there was a howler in the 2nd quarter of adelaide v sydney game where the umpire said stand and the sydney player ran off and they umpire let him re set the mark. adelaide were rolling and it would've been a shot at goal.

 

[Captivating]

Completely inaccurate description of the footage they played.

He calls play on twice only after the North player is accosted and starts to run away.

You also left out the part where all the panellists agree it's a 50.

Why would an umpire call play on, twice mind you, and then stop and pay a mark?

 

[BigTacoBandit]

Why would an umpire call play on, twice mind you, and then stop and pay a mark?

He didn't. He whistled twice, called mark, then called play on twice once the North player ran away.

 

[EBERT THE KING]

Crazy game.

North probably beat every other team with a performance like that. Collingwood just always find a way.

Norths kids are ridiculously good. Wardlaw is a beast.

 

[Augustine]

I don't understand how there can be any debate on this. If the umpire blows their whistle for a mark, nobody can enter the protected area until they say "play on" and if they do it's a 50 metre penalty.

Everything else is irrelevant.

Player mark ball
umpire blow whistle for mark
Players cant go near him till umpire say play on.

It is like the first rule you ever learn in under 8s. I have no idea how Kane could have cooked this so badly.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

They let that go all the time. It's rarer that they pay it, Swans get away with it all game.

I agree on the sentiment, but to be fair on the Swans, I reckon the SCG may be partly to blame with that because the viewing angle of the TV camera makes them look a lot closer to the mark than they really are. I doubt the Swans are particularly worse than any team at this, but agree it doesn't get paid a lot of the time (as it shouldnt)

 

[FlowersByIrene]

I don't understand how there can be any debate on this. If the umpire blows their whistle for a mark, nobody can enter the protected area until they say "play on" and if they do it's a 50 metre penalty.

Everything else is irrelevant.

Player mark ball
umpire blow whistle for mark
Players cant go near him till umpire say play on.

It is like the first rule you ever learn in under 8s. I have no idea how Kane could have cooked this so badly.

Because the AFL brass are morally bankrupt... it's the only explanation. I refuse to believe they can be this dumb, so the only answer is they're corrupt.

 

[Dogflogger]

this is more embarrassing than the missed 50 from the umpires. https://t.co/M03t54jYik

 

[adammania9]

Seriously wishful thinking to think Bailey Scott

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of all people nails a clutch set shot to win the game in the dying seconds. Collingwood still win regardless

 

[ferball]

The poll is missing an option.

Like the Collingwood players, I didn't think that was 15. They've clearly not heard the whistle either. If the umpire did blow the whistle, it's 50, but my guess is they haven't heard it because two of them go in without hesitation. The North player also plays on, causing more confusion.

The Daicos "handball" was holding the ball but the four umpires on the field may have not been in an appropriate position to see that he hasn't actually made contact with the ball.

The touched call is pretty black and white. Four field umpires, a goal umpire and multiple umpires in the ARC should be able to make the correct decision on that one.

As much as I'm not a fan of Collingwood being on the favourable side of all of these decisions, the West Coast fan is me quite enjoys the furore after the Yeo call the week before.

The Yeo call was exactly what the AFL said they'd do and even released video of that exact sort of play in the days leading up to that game. Yeo grabbed the ball and brought it to his body in the split second he had it.

You can argue its a stupid interpretation if you like, thats probably a fair call, but in a rare moment of consistency its exactly what the AFL said they'd do.

 

[ferball]

Seriously wishful thinking to think Bailey Scott of all people nails a clutch set shot to win the game in the dying seconds. Collingwood still win regardless

If he'd missed and scored a behind its another draw for you lot. Not a win.

 

[adammania9]

If he'd missed and scored a behind its another draw for you lot. Not a win.

Except the Zac Fisher behind hasn’t happened yet and likely doesn’t as Collingwood bomb it down the line to the boundary and defend out the clock

 

[Barrybran]

The Yeo call was exactly what the AFL said they'd do and even released video of that exact sort of play in the days leading up to that game. Yeo grabbed the ball and brought it to his body in the split second he had it.

You can argue its a stupid interpretation if you like, thats probably a fair call, but in a rare moment of consistency its exactly what the AFL said they'd do.

We know the AFL is all over the shop at the moment. In the same game, Sheed was (incorrectly) called for holding the ball after being tackled from behind immediately after receiving possession and Xerri was (correctly) allowed to hold onto the ball for an extended period.

The Yeo call was incorrect. Picking the ball up off the ground does not constitute prior possession and the AFL were rightfully laughed at for their explanation.

 

[adammania9]

The very same supporters - North or other - having an all time whinge about the Roos being robbed are probably the same who reckon they were foolish for winning a game and losing the chance to draft Harley Reid. Collingwood and the league are simply helping them not replicate the same mistakes. Everybody wins.

 

[Disco Dew]

Except the Zac Fisher behind hasn’t happened yet and likely doesn’t as Collingwood bomb it down the line to the boundary and defend out the clock

Or north are able to lock it in and get another crack.
Who needs the actual game, we can make up things that could happen all day.

 

[ferball]

Crazy game.

North probably beat every other team with a performance like that. Collingwood just always find a way.

Norths kids are ridiculously good. Wardlaw is a beast.

The way Collingwood play their last quarters is pretty elite. They set up to back their luck and swing momentum and work their arses off to give it every chance to succeed.

 

[ferball]

Except the Zac Fisher behind hasn’t happened yet and likely doesn’t as Collingwood bomb it down the line to the boundary and defend out the clock

To Comben who marks it with another towering intercept and puts it to Curtis on his own inside 50. Or Scott kicks it like he kicked one from 50 earlier and Collingwood don't get the opportunity to do that. I know he has his moments kicking but I wouldn't count on him missing that one.

Youse got lucky. Just be thankful.

 

[ferball]

The very same supporters - North or other - having an all time whinge about the Roos being robbed are probably the same who reckon they were foolish for winning a game and losing the chance to draft Harley Reid. Collingwood and the league are simply helping them not replicate the same mistakes. Everybody wins.

No. That win was exactly what we needed last year. Some players had their first win that game and put in their best pre seasons, probably because they were motivated by it.

 

[adammania9]

Or north are able to lock it in and get another crack.
Who needs the actual game, we can make up things that could happen all day.

I know what actually happened. The Pies got up from 54 down , which was still 44 at the 25 minute mark of the third

 

[Disco Dew]

I know what actually happened. The Pies got up from 54 down , which was still 44 at the 25 minute mark of the third

They did indeed

 

[CURVE]

In the end, the non 50 call probably guarantees North a bottom two (probably bottom) finish again, and another elite junior to add to an already talented young list. And maybe the one or two premierships we win in late 20's, early 30's becomes 4 or 5.

 

[ferball]

We know the AFL is all over the shop at the moment. In the same game, Sheed was (incorrectly) called for holding the ball after being tackled from behind immediately after receiving possession and Xerri was (correctly) allowed to hold onto the ball for an extended period.

The Yeo call was incorrect. Picking the ball up off the ground does not constitute prior possession and the AFL were rightfully laughed at for their explanation.

It harsh and might not be fair by any reasonable standards but they did change the htb interpretation very publicly and released examples of what they'd pay and one of those examples was exactly the same as what Yeo did. They were consistent then

Unlike so many other decisions they make. In the North game on the weekend LDU was tackled immediately and looked to legitimately handball the ball away but was done for htb and the Pies scored from that poor decision/turnover as well. Yet multiple throws weren't paid the other way.

Someone told me the other day that in a 1970s final between North and the Blues there were nearly 100 frees paid, by one umpire. I dunno if that's better than four on field who can't even get a play on to advantage right but its surely no worse.

 

[ferball]

I know what actually happened. The Pies got up from 54 down , which was still 44 at the 25 minute mark of the third

22 players on the field tho so its no surprise.

 

[Barrybran]

It harsh and might not be fair by any reasonable standards but they did change the htb interpretation very publicly and released examples of what they'd pay and one of those examples was exactly the same as what Yeo did. They were consistent then

Unlike so many other decisions they make. In the North game on the weekend LDU was tackled immediately and looked to legitimately handball the ball away but was done for htb and the Pies scored from that poor decision/turnover as well. Yet multiple throws weren't paid the other way.

Someone told me the other day that in a 1970s final between North and the Blues there were nearly 100 frees paid, by one umpire. I dunno if that's better than four on field who can't even get a play on to advantage right but its surely no worse.

I think there is one too many umpires on the field at the moment.