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Northern Football League Division 1 - Part VI
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Players are all about winning the flag, but money can attract people... especially if a club struggles to produce its own quality. Can work in the other direction if money dries up.
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can confirm that simon goodwin will play at the roosters, when he doesnt have any dutys at the bombers!
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Could the fact that Mont still owe player payments from last year have anything to do with players defecting?
The fact that Mont still owe the NFL their affliation fees from last year might also shed some light on the subject.
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No. No I don't think so- given we've retained nearly all last years list and added more than a handy few, I don't think that is the reason.
Having said that, you'd need to ask Stanton why he left.
The Mont machine will be in full flight this year. Having said that, Murphy Nolan Houlihan.
Lalor prez
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Think this comment is a little unfair... Heidelberg in my opinion are very well supported, even when asked to attend cross promoted days at opposition clubs they are a delight to work with... Although I do agree it will be interesting in the next few years how things pan out. I am sure they have a plan in place, in my humble opinion club/team sustainability could be the problem heading into the next few years...?!? Development of their juniors and a re-focus towards their 19's could be important... A lot of guys with young families down there, could play a part in a total change of the guard soon, need to start thinking where the new faces are coming from... time will tell.
longshanks
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Watch this space.
Lalor prez
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I will with interest from D2 this year... Think Heidelberg has done a lot for the comps image and that sometimes gets forgotten when rival supporters are too busy trying to cut down the tall poppies... An easy target at times to let fly on uneducated comments like supporters, culture and money... Without a Heidelberg our comp looks lightweights against the EDFL and EFL, that’s fact and something we all have to consider at NFL! Them raising the bar has helped our comp undoubtedly.
Any truth Anthony Rocca has signed with West Preston ?
Don`t know about that. Do know he is an assistant coach at Collingwoods VFL team!
stringa
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Daniel Sage to Bundoora! has he got anything left in that left foot of his.Hope so.......
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grass-is-greener
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can confirm that simon goodwin will play at the roosters, when he doesnt have any dutys at the bombers!
Apparently 8 games with no training obligations.
grass-is-greener
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Have heard 10 games without training obligations.
Lalor prez
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lalor prez! you shouldn't be on big footy you speak with to much common sense!!!
Ha ha, don't think anyone on here has a low level of common sense, they just don't seem to post it on here... it's just easier at times to throw stones behind alias, and prob more fun during the mudslinging...?!?
I do belive it is getting very tough for many of our clubs due to our general demographic, WRFL are having the same discussions we are while EDFL & EFL are talking big dollars and big players... Check a sensus report for their specific areas, it paints a very interesting picture. A lot of their senior clubs are funded by their juniors; bigger clubs have 18 - 20 junior sides with each kid paying fees of $250 - $300 P/A on top of $5 a game.
I know that Kev and the team at NFL are doing all they can to attract corporate partners to our league to help subsidise fees and help clubs attract a better range of players... In saying this, our league has to be attractive enough for sponsors to throw cash behind, so the balls back in our court as clubs. Heidelberg add weight to the NFL's cause and weather anyone likes it or not, it is helping this situation.
I do think that this coupled with a watered down version of the points system needs to be introduced to help clubs make better decisions with their selections in both growing a club and selections of recruits... It will be a ballsy league to start the ball rolling...!!!
The NFL & WRFL and to a lesser extent the SFL are in prime positions to do this... By doing this the value on fringe VFL players, home grown and true local talent goes up and we will see a stronger, more affordable comp... Hopefully...??? as we all know it is hard work for 180 days just to break even...
Points system at this level is too easy to manipulate (no disrespect). There is no 'silver bullet'. Clubs need to ask/answer the tough questions. Namely, "what are we doing to generate more business for our sponsors." Simply inviting the sponsor(s) along to some day/night whereby one of 'yesterdays heroes' attends and speaks about 'when we were kids' is somewhat boring and a total waste of time. Bottom line, if your sponsors aren't motivated by altruism then they want bang for their buck. Provide that and you might just survive the soccer onslaught.
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Too true, agree with everything... A lot of grey areas with a points system but some sort of regulation needs to be at least discussed to support clubs and help them develop... Clubs need to become smarter in how they utilize their data bases to attract sponsors, I even avoid using the word sponsor when approaching potentials and use the term advertising space with our demographic ready in hand. We have even started to combine our bowling club, soccer club, netball club as a data base to attract a wider market - sponsor sounds like a donation and generally is... A snap shot of how a points system might work (and I agree it is not a silver bullet) let’s take the perfect example - Heidelberg v West Heidelberg. Same area, same potential - one run on an oily rag, one with loads of opportunities... To even the balance out for a West Heidelberg to have the potential of one day becoming a first division club they have different allowances EG. Heidelberg have just finished 2nd, they have a lower allowable recruiting points available 10...??? (10 for 100 games AFL, 5 FOR 50 AFL... Don't be too concerned with the details at this stage.) Meaning that with all the money available they can only attract and sign a certain points in a given year dependant on where they finish. WEST finishes effectively 22nd they have the maximum allowable points to recruit players and can sign 100 points in a year...??? Giving them a better chance of recruiting fringe players from other comps, sides etc... Clubs still need to work to raise funds but it avoids good players playing seconds at higher clubs... It's just one thought so don't get to caught up in it, I just think something has to happen to balance out local footy and get back to what it's about. It is working in the MPFL however they are a little different geographically to the metro comps, that’s why I think it will be ballsy for a single comp to do it... I do STRONGLY believe that it is the responsibility of AFLVIC and the leagues to protect clubs and strive for an even balance at club level. With the new transfer rules and suggestions of grading development teams (under 19’s) the odds are stacked way against clubs trying to survive and i think the balance is being tipped in the favour of the players.
totally agree, the thought out there that sponsors want to get on board just because they have a link to the club will not get you anywhere, to get new sponsors, or to get your existing sponsors to kick in some more you need to offer sponsors some value for money. Its a very hard thing to provide sponsors with but clubs have to work at it if they want to grow.
P.S. yes i am a sponsor...
P.P.S. What the hell is going on with Boof writing something that i agree with
totally agree, the thought out there that sponsors want to get on board just because they have a link to the club will not get you anywhere, to get new sponsors, or to get your existing sponsors to kick in some more you need to offer sponsors some value for money. Its a very hard thing to provide sponsors with but clubs have to work at it if they want to grow.
P.S. yes i am a sponsor...
P.P.S. What the hell is going on with Boof writing something that i agree with
My 2 cents worth regarding Sponsorship, every year I dig into my own pocket and sling some money towards the club. Usually a calender & player sponsorship, cost of $500 each year. To quantify it, I need about $20k of business.
I've already had 2 calls from local residents and also a referral from someone internally - season yet to begin.
I agree that some sponsorship is just a donation, however, if you have a business / service that people can utilise and both party's achieve a win/win scenario, then it's a cheap form of advertising in my book.
Yeah! ... That could work. Stinga standing buck naked with 4 or 5 Premiership Cups hanging off his tool. The only dilemma is ... which month?
Good to see you've matured in the off season
Lalor prez
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Bigger dilemma is getting small enough replica cups to make them all fit... love ya meatball... Or were you talking about a Plumbcad wrench...???Yeah! ... That could work. Stinga standing buck naked with 4 or 5 Premiership Cups hanging off his tool. The only dilemma is ... which month?
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