Now official - Fevola sacked

[GingerGreatness]

As a Fev-free club, I would like to announce that we officially now have the ever dangerous "unpredictable forward line".

Got a lot of hype this time last year by some other mob, who turned out ok IIRC.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Fevola Trade vs O'Reilly Trade

MOST PESSIMISTIC APPRAISAL OF THE FEVOLA TRADE

OUT
Pick 12 (Kane Lucas)
Lachlan Henderson
Daniel Bradshaw
Michael Rischitelli
Justin Sherman (very tenuously related to the Fev trade but will put it in to prevent Carlton tears)
Jared Brennan(very tenuously related to the Fev trade but will put it in to prevent Carlton tears)
Large contract payout for Fevola (yet to be revealed)

IN
Brendan Fevola - 17 games, 48 goals
Callum Bartlett
Upgrade of Pick 10 (Daniel Gorringe) to Pick 5 (Jared Polec)
Pick 25 (Patrick Karnezis)
Pick 27 (Ryan Lester)
End of First Round compensation pick for Rischitelli (still in bank)
End of First Round compensation pick for Sherman (still in bank)

Overall, Fevola was a flop and we lost some players (some good, some inconsistent or old with little to offer us while we rebuild) in the crossfire, but we managed to extract 5 young promising players in the deal, all of them top 30 draft picks plus upgraded our pick 10 into pick 5 which netted us the very bloody exciting Jared Polec.

Now... the worst trade for all time.

Carlton traded for Steven O'Reilly, who played very little football for them, but did happen to blow the whistle on their salary cap rorting. Let's take a look.

THE STEPHEN O'REILLY TRADE
IN
Stephen O'Reilly (12 games, 1 goal)

OUT
$1 million dollar fine

Picks 19 and 46 in the 1999 draft (directly traded for O'Reilly)

Draft Penalties
2002 Draft
Pick 1 (Brendon Goddard)
Pick 2 (Daniel Wells)
Pick 17
Pick 33

2003 Draft
Pick 5 (Brock McLean, who they incidently end up spending ANOTHER first round pick on down the line)
Pick 21

You'd hope those 12 games O'Reilly played were blinders to make up for losing Goddard. Let alone 7 other draft picks and a million bucks.

 

[whatboutbob]

Re: H-S: Fevola sacked

Yeah, the next few weeks are going to be unpleasant, but there is now light at the end of the tunnel that the club can escape the cloud of negativity that Fev has brought over the club (whether he has been at fault or not).

I look forward to when journalists start to focus a bit more on our other players.

I must admit to feeling some relief that the end of the media storm that Fev attracts is in sight.

Now, cue the outraged articles: "How can the Lions be so callous? Won't somebody think of the children?!".

While I'd have loved to have seen the club give Fev "one last chance", ultimately, I support the club's decision. Thankfully, since the departure of Kelly, Bowers and Gubby, we have a couple of guys in Angus Johnson and Stephen Wright at the helm of the club that I trust to make the right call.

No matter one's stance on Fev, one would have to be pretty callous to not feel some measure of sadness. He clearly has his demons, and seems to be in the process of trying to deal with them. Here's hoping he can get his life on track.

 

[mickeyblueeyes37]

Re: H-S: Fevola sacked

Wooden spoon in the bag Bye Bye Vossy

 

[whizkizz]

Where has Lionshine gone?

You are joking that he has jumped ship no?

Well.. this was in the archives.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589848

 

[AlecDuncan]

Not the worst trade of all time though. Thank god for Carlton and that Stephen O'Reilly trade.

Our record is safe!

 

[whizkizz]

As a Fev-free club, I would like to announce that we officially now have the ever dangerous "unpredictable forward line".

Got a lot of hype this time last year by some other mob, who turned out ok IIRC.

Now thats positive thinking! If there's one thing Carlton showed us this year, it's that you can make finals without a forward line.

Leave it to Brown.

 

[mickeyblueeyes37]

At least we've still got this guy -

He can't even get on the park let alone play 22 game's

 

[whizkizz]

He can't even get on the park let alone play 22 game's

IIRC he played all 24 matches in 2009 and 21 of 22 matches in 2008. Also played all 22 matches in 2007.

He'll be right.

IMO Drummond is a major key, we got 20 games out of him in 2009 and made finals. Not really relevant to a Fev thread though.

Ultimately we can still have hope without him.

 

[whatboutbob]

Hello Ms Quayle.

Oh, Emma, while we have your attention, how about a few deep background articles on some Lions Cubs a la your interview with Rocky last year? That was a great read!

 

[PTizzle]

Shame really, but if you're a member (and you should be) then you'll see that we apparently have no legal obligation to offer him money which has Lynchy in a bit of a stink. If we did have to pay him out I'd say a waste of a good player (which it still is) and a waste of money, but in this situation if it keeps Clark/Rich here for sure then I can't be against it, regardless of how much I like Fev.

Feel bad for the bloke but he's had his chances. As TBD above put it's a poor trade but that's the worst possible view of it and it happens. All we can do from here is move forward.

 

[possum8]

Wooden spoon in the bag Bye Bye Vossy

I don't agree, i think come season start we will be competitive. I would never use the NAB cup as an indicator as alot of players look at self preseverance over performance. (Who in their right mind wants to do a serious injury before the season starts?)

 

[tate13]

Personally, I think giving Sydney pick 28 of Amon was a worse trade. The list Brisbane had at the end of 2009 was decent, but a long way off the pace. I don't think that list would have ever won a flag and had almost peaked. At the time adding the likes of Fevola was what was required to take such a list the next step.
Bradshaw was a fine player for the club, actually he was an absolute gun. But failed to get on the park last year and one suspects will now just play out his contract. Henderson was a high draft pick but I never really could see much in him. Didn't set the world alight and failed to live up to the hype generated (regardless of what he does at Carlton). However out of everyone we lost, he was probably most likely to be part of the Lions next premiership. Riska had a fine year last year but is nothing more than a hard working footballer that would have come no where near a best & fairest award at any other club last year. Brennan had all the talent in the world but failed to utilize it on a regular basis. Which leaves us with Sherman. Sherman was nothing more than an egotistical moron who either had an exciting game or failed to touch the football. Whilst all these players are above average footballers at their best, they were never consistent enough to form a premiership winning side. The risk was taken by Voss and it didn't pan out. Now we re-build a list that is capable of taking us to the next step. The likes of Redden, Rockcliff, Banfield and Rich are already a good start.

 

[drummond2fevola]

Can I borrow your rose tinted glasses tate13?

 

[starchamber]

Re: H-S: Fevola sacked

I'm upset by this news. Personally thought he deserved another chance.

The whole ordeal was a cluster **** of epic proportions.

I remember the wet'n'wild presser like it was yesterday.

I'm still upset Carlton let him go but boy Brisbane recruiters are holding their jobs? They liked gave away Fevola,Henderson,Lucas,Rischitelli,Brennan and Bradshaw while Rich,Clark and Leuenberger will all be targeted and Black may retire.

 

[starchamber]

Re: H-S: Fevola sacked

and while Im disappointed...its a great sign of strength for the club to make the call..and try and move forward and end the B. S.

Nice Avatar with the Saxon well it might be a sign of strength but like Carlton heads should roll for the recruiting or poor performance.I'm expecting Ratten head to fall after the Fisher 99 games,the finals loss and the Fev and getting Mclean at pick 11 or 12.

 

[whatboutbob]

Re: H-S: Fevola sacked

I'm still upset Carlton let him go but boy Brisbane recruiters are holding their jobs? They liked gave away Fevola,Henderson,Lucas,Rischitelli,Brennan and Bradshaw while Rich,Clark and Leuenberger will all be targeted and Black may retire.

As I just replied to your post on the main board, everyone involved in the Fevola trade, bar Voss, has moved on, or been moved on. From the Chairman to the CEO to the Football Manager. Our "recruiters" have nothing to do with trades.

 

[tate13]

Can I borrow your rose tinted glasses tate13?

If you think the list we had in 2009 was actually going to do something, then it is I that should be borrowing yours. What have any of those players done since they were shown up by the Bulldogs in the Semi final? All but Riska failed to improve on previous years. I'm not saying we will be good anytime soon, nor am I saying Voss should not be held accountable. However I firmly believe that the risk on Fevola was one that had to be taken and no great loss in the grand scheme of things was caused. Yes it was a horrible trade and yes we lost some decent players, but they were never going to form a premiership side. If we were to lose Rich, Leuey or Mitch this year? That would be a genuine loss.

 

[Wickzki]

I'm sorry that it worked out the way that it has. I agree with TBD that it was a very rash decision. However, I fully expected it to be made the moment that I had heard the news on Proud -- it seemed to be the natural stepping stone to Fev's sacking. Eg. "We've publicly fired one player for his off-field antics so we now have a precedent of not accepting it. It justifies what we're going to do with Fevola in the coming days." -- the Nixon news also created the perfect avenue of opportunity where it could potentially be as quiet as possible (not the only headline in the newspapers).

Now, had it have been me I would have handled the situation different. I'd have taken a page out of Carlton's books (the one thing we handled the right way last summer if you ask me). Told Fev, "Look, you're not going to be anywhere near our boys until you've proven yourself on the track." -- take him away from the playing group. Send him to a local martial arts / tough gym to get him into the best shape of his life -- if he had screwed up there "Sorry, Fev, you've left us no alternative. We gave you an opportunity to redeem yourself and you've screwed it up, not us, this is all on you.", gotten him training with another local football club where he could still be around a football group (not his own teammates) while training FOR a comeback.

It is what it is. I haven't bothered to read my own team's thread(s) on the news. No doubt they're likely laughing about how we nailed you guys with him. While I can understand where that line of thought comes from now isn't the time to gloat. It wont be time for us to gloat until Henderson and/or Kane Lucas make big names out of themselves. I don't even look at it as a massive win yet (it's a win no doubt, just not the gigantic win that its being made out to be) for Carlton in the trade yet until that happens - we very may well have won the Sydney final WITH Fev. It's a huge loss for the Lions but as TBD said its in the same vein as that O'Reilly trade - Fremantle came out on top in that trade (a little bit) but it was Carlton who screwed Carlton over with Brisbane screwing Brisbane over here. I agree that the O'Reilly trade is the worst in the history of the AFL - it set our club back over a decade. Instead of looking for a premiership in 2002-03 we're looking for 2012-13.

Best of luck this year. I hope this unites your playing group. Hopefully Brown stays healthy for you - if you have confidence in his health wack some money on him for the Coleman.

 

[loyallion]

I hate how this has all turned out and I hate how everyone is pointing the finger at Brisbane and saying what assholes the Lions are for giving him the sack.
At the end of the day Its not Carlton's nor Brisbane's fault that Fevola screwed up the way he has.

He chose to do the wrong thing repeatedly and as a result should accept the responsibility of his actions and seek help Hes been to rehab of his Alcohol problems thats fantastic, but he still has a lot of other things to get out of his system before he even considers going near a Football IMO.

But as the old saying goes you can't help anybody if they don't want to help themselves.

 

[Mr Ripper]

I'm sure the decision to sack Fev has been made a lot less lightly than the decision to recruit him...

 

[JDogg]

"Mr Lynch said Fevola had "offered to play the entire 2011 season in the Lions reserves and accept whatever behavioral clauses the club wished to impose in an effort to return to AFL football in 2012".

This worries me.

We should have given him a crack at the reserves with tight clauses.

 

[LIONHART]

everyone involved in getting fev to brisbane should resign, if they haven't already left (everyone!!), biggest mistake in the clubs history, all for the self-serving satisfaction of a possible priemiership.
the fact that he was recruited, and has cost us such a heavy price (not just financially) he should have played out his contract even if that was in the seconds.

 

[Grimreepah]

everyone involved in getting fev to brisbane should resign, if they haven't already left (everyone!!), biggest mistake in the clubs history, all for the self-serving satisfaction of a possible priemiership.
the fact that he was recruited, and has cost us such a heavy price (not just financially) he should have played out his contract even if that was in the seconds.

the nerve...

 

[Happy_Neale]

everyone involved in getting fev to brisbane should resign, if they haven't already left (everyone!!), biggest mistake in the clubs history, all for the self-serving satisfaction of a possible priemiership.
the fact that he was recruited, and has cost us such a heavy price (not just financially) he should have played out his contract even if that was in the seconds.

Self serving? So you wouldn't of liked to see us win another flag?

Besides as wab pointed out, everyone HAS left or been moved on bar Voss.