NOW to sometime later in the year (maybe) - Talk about anything

[Carn The Berries]

I'm OK with with the work done at Springfield Park, just the councillor for Elgar who was the only councillor who voted against the extra money required at East Burwood because it was too much, but has been OK with all the money spent at Springfield Rd. If this had not been passed, the ground would not be completed in time for the start of the season.

Davy Lane recommendation was eventually approved. The greenies want the whole area for trees etc. The area really is needed for ovals. The corridor is 2Km long, the vast majority of the corridor would be unaffected. Greenies argued that we already have enough ovals in Whitehorse to cater for all clubs. One even recommended planting an orchard there. While it is a large amount there just aren't enough sports ground now, let alone into the future. The debate on Davy Lane was over about an hour and a half with amendment after amendment made to try and defeat the motion. The whole meeting lasted 2hrs 42m to discuss all the items on the Agenda.

Since the mid 1990’s, 19 schools have closed in Whitehorse. With the sale and redevelopment of the sites has come an increase in Whitehorse’s population and a decrease in recreational facilities.

Whitehorse has lost 21 ovals, along with open space and gymnasiums that were available for community use when these schools closed.

The result of all these closures has been an increase in the school populations of the remaining schools. Increased numbers have compelled the construction of new buildings. Often the only space left for new buildings intrudes onto sports ovals further reducing their availability to be used.

Whitehorse is now short of ovals by not doing anything to retain sports ovals when schools closed.

All the new dwellings constructed on those school sites as well as the redevelopment of the Burwood Brickworks site in Blackburn South, the Australian Tessalated Tile co. site in Mitcham and the construction of a large number of high rise developments throughout Whitehorse have placed significant pressure on sporting and recreational facilities. No new sporting facilities within Whitehorse have been constructed to replace those lost.

The redevelopment of the former Australian Road and Research Board site at 490-500 Burwood Highway, Vermont South, for residential housing will place further demand by Whitehorse residents for sporting and recreation facilities.

In addition to the ovals mentioned there have been another 15 ovals lost.

Halliday Park 1 (closed)

Sparkes Reserve 1 (closed)

Surrey Park 2 (lost due to the baseball field)

Wattle Park 2 (revegetated)

Ovals lost to building works

Blackburn HS 2
Laburnum PS 1
Blackburn Lake PS 1
Mt Pleasant Road PS 1
Kerrimuir PS 1
Whitehorse PS 1
Vermont SC 1
Forest Hill SC 1

Excellent summary! It's a minor nit-pick, but the oval at MPPS is still there. Looking at Google maps it doesn't look like it's changed from when I went there in the 90s. To my knowledge, it was never used by outside sporting teams due to its size.

I sincerely hope they've removed the raised concrete drain that ran along the western side... It captured many victims in the years I was there.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Excellent summary! It's a minor nit-pick, but the oval at MPPS is still there. Looking at Google maps it doesn't look like it's changed from when I went there in the 90s. To my knowledge, it was never used by outside sporting teams due to its size.

I sincerely hope they've removed the raised concrete drain that ran along the western side... It captured many victims in the years I was there.

There was a fair bit of talk about finding grounds for U11 cricket teams. That's why its there.

 

[Carn The Berries]

There was a fair bit of talk about finding grounds for U11 cricket teams. That's why its there.

That makes sense. Would be about the only age group you could use it for!

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

That makes sense. Would be about the only age group you could use it for!

That's basically why all the primary schools are there. The only 2 that I know of with suitable size ovals for seniors are Orchard Grove and Livingstone Primary Schools.
Some pictures of MPPS for comparison. The black and white picture is from 1987, coloured 2024.

 

[cromball90]

Didn’t Scoresby have an affiliation with Lysterfield back in the day?

 

[Thepigshow]

Didn’t Scoresby have an affiliation with Lysterfield back in the day?

They definitely had one with the old st Simon’s junior club.

 

[cromball90]

They definitely had one with the old st Simon’s junior club.

Yer sorry that’s the one I was thinking of. What happened to them

 

[Thepigshow]

Yer sorry that’s the one I was thinking of. What happened to them

I’m 90% sure st Simon’s have changed there name to Rowville knights about 10 or so years ago. No idea where there juniors are affiliated with now though.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I’m 90% sure st Simon’s have changed there name to Rowville knights about 10 or so years ago. No idea where there juniors are affiliated with now though.

Yes St Simons are now Rowville Knights.

They have been aligned to Scoresby but it would appear Scoresby have now pursued Lysterfield instead. You can be aligned to more than one junior club, who knows if they remain aligned with Knights.

 

[eflreceiver]

Merry Christmas to ALL the contributors. Stay safe and I look forward to the same arguments next year

 

[RedmanWasHere]

That's basically why all the primary schools are there. The only 2 that I know of with suitable size ovals for seniors are Orchard Grove and Livingstone Primary Schools.
Some pictures of MPPS for comparison. The black and white picture is from 1987, coloured 2024.
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Out with the old.

In with the new. (Oval excepted.)

Also, this has to be from the City of Whitehorse's aerial maps archives.

Weave Map

 

[eflreceiver]

Jail sought for AFL legend’s son over $140,000 fraud

Dylan DiPierdomenico has faced court after pleading guilty to obtaining property by deception from a company where he worked as national sales manager.

www.theage.com.au

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Jail sought for AFL legend’s son over $140,000 fraud

Dylan DiPierdomenico has faced court after pleading guilty to obtaining property by deception from a company where he worked as national sales manager.

www.theage.com.au

Taken a long time for this to come to court. I can only say, based on what happened at EB, if he gets jail it will be well deserved.

 

[Harry Cheezels]

Taken a long time for this to come to court. I can only say, based on what happened at EB, if he gets jail it will be well deserved.

Not sure what he did at EB but heard he was double dipping with the footy trip money at Doncaster aswell.

 

[eflreceiver]

Not sure what he did at EB but heard he was double dipping with the footy trip money at Doncaster aswell.

There are a few stories from various clubs.

 

[localfootylegend23]

There are a few stories from various clubs.

Taken a long time for this to come to court. I can only say, based on what happened at EB, if he gets jail it will be well deserved.

Go on....

Are we talking damian cupido level of bad (borrowing cash off u19 players, dipping when they caught on he didn't plan on paying them back, Stealing wallets, or running a drug syndicate out of the club as the oldest player there)

Or even worse?

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Go on....

Are we talking damian cupido level of bad (borrowing cash off u19 players, dipping when they caught on he didn't plan on paying them back, Stealing wallets, or running a drug syndicate out of the club as the oldest player there)

Or even worse?

You left out kicking poorly at practice and then betting young players he could kick further than them only to produce a monster when there was money riding on it. As far as being the oldest player at a club, that's probably true for about the last 20 clubs he's been at.

 

[eflreceiver]

Go on....

Are we talking damian cupido level of bad (borrowing cash off u19 players, dipping when they caught on he didn't plan on paying them back, Stealing wallets, or running a drug syndicate out of the club as the oldest player there)

Or even worse?

The rumors all are about transgressions and all are about pooling money and blowing it. The money could be the end of season trip funds, punters club etc. Some say Dad bailed him out a few times. Cost him a holiday house down the peninsula and in the end couldn’t bail him out this time.

 

[eflreceiver]

Taken a long time for this to come to court. I can only say, based on what happened at EB, if he gets jail it will be well deserved.

I’d be surprised if he actually got jail time. There’s not enough places for violent criminals at the moment.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I will add that he is an addict, he has made some efforts to pay some money back and his old man has done the same.

And whatever his sentence, he will get no peace - he has the most recognisable name you could imagine and it is plastered everywhere. Everybody knows who he is and what he is. A lot different to many other people who **** up.

And just on the addiction, there has never been a worse time in history to be a gambling addict than in Australia over the last 15 years. It is absolutely everywhere. A functioning society would never have allowed it, but here we just let the politicians get paid off by the betting companies (“donations”) and let it go.

I can’t say I don’t have some feeling for him and those like him.

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

The whole thing is a real shame. He has obviously made some serious indiscretions and this will follow him for the rest of his life. I feel for the victims.

The Dip I knew was a really good fella and fun to be around. I know of many that agree with this sentiment. I sincerely hope he can get himself back on track.

 

[eflreceiver]

Plenty of nice people succumb to their addiction and in saying that, those impacted by someone's addiction and in this case gambling aren't that forgiving. I hope he gets passed all this but I can't help but feel that if Dylan was held to account early on it wouldn't have gotten to this stage.

 

[Saint]

The whole thing is a real shame. He has obviously made some serious indiscretions and this will follow him for the rest of his life. I feel for the victims.

The Dip I knew was a really good fella and fun to be around. I know of many that agree with this sentiment. I sincerely hope he can get himself back on track.

Addicts are often a lot of fun when they're riding a wave.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Plenty of nice people succumb to their addiction and in saying that, those impacted by someone's addiction and in this case gambling aren't that forgiving. I hope he gets passed all this but I can't help but feel that if Dylan was held to account early on it wouldn't have gotten to this stage.

Yes you definitely have to feel for the victims, they have done nothing wrong. The business owners in this case gave evidence and were in tears over the impact it has had on them.

The whole situation with this sort of stuff is just ****ed up. There are no winners. I don’t wish to excuse him in any way but the the reality is that addiction is genuine and in the gambling space at the moment, the temptations are ridiculous as a result of governments being bribed by companies and not giving two ****s about the impact.

 

[Saint]

Yes you definitely have to feel for the victims, they have done nothing wrong. The business owners in this case gave evidence and were in tears over the impact it has had on them.

The whole situation with this sort of stuff is just ****ed up. There are no winners. I don’t wish to excuse him in any way but the the reality is that addiction is genuine and in the gambling space at the moment, the temptations are ridiculous as a result of governments being bribed by companies and not giving two ****s about the impact.

He's still more responsible than the gambling companies. Sounds like it's been an ongoing problem. His Dad's on an overseas holiday according to his Insta, so maybe he's had to cut the kid off and if it takes going to prison to learn the lesson, then maybe that's what breaks his addiction.