NSW Catholic schools looking to dump Rugby League

[RUNVS]

Hey El Diablo...

We all know he is reading this.

 

[The Teacher]

Sorry mate! but Women/Mothers will not forget and they now have a big say in what sports junior plays.

finders, your words are wise indeed.

And if you've ever wondered why the AFL is investing in girls and women playing our code........


Regards

Dicko

 

[dan warna]

it would be awesome of rugby league went the way of the NBL

I'd laugh

 

[1873 United]

I'm in a workplace where this sort of thing goes on. Understandably you must realise there is a massive sub culture in both men and women where this is acceptable.

Believe it or not, the only reason a lot of this information goes public is due to public figures involved. Most Australians would be shocked at the amount of group sex that takes place on any given weekend throughout the country, I'm not saying it's wrong or right but just stating everyone has differing oppinions.

Standing on the moral high ground on this subject is about as moral as the church with its collection plates, I ask you this who decided once upon a time that this sort of act (group sex) is something so moraly wrong that all should be exposed and condemned?

Now I'm not totaly factual with the details of what went on in NZ, however if what the young girl stated is true, then shame on everyone else involved. All acts of a sexual nature must be consensual.

 

[Chook Norris]

And you think she was "as much to blame"? She goes to a hotel room with two men, and they give a signal and ten more pile in, then proceed to line up at the end of the bed and screw her, whilst other men stand by and whack off over her as their 'mates' have a go, and in those two hours none of them even speak to her, like she's not even human, that she barely exists outside of a thing for them to play with???

she goes into a room with two men and then signals that if the others "want to come in, then you have to be naked"

she even brags about the incident to her co workers, the next day, as reported by her former workmate Tania Boyd and the owner of the Hotel.. it then takes her 5 days to realise that she actually didn't enjoy the experience and that her 'football sex fantasy' didn't live up to her expectations..

This isn't even group sex, but something far more perverse, more lurid and homo-erotic than most people care to ponder. It is deeply weird and disturbing..

like it or not, there are people out there who like to get 'gang-banged' .. especially by footballers... only afterwards do they realise that it isn't so great
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Currently, i am in year 11 of a Sydney Catholic School, RL been part of the school (and many others) for over 50 years.. i seriously doubt that the sport will be dumped... and don't for a second think that AFL are making in roads into High Schools either, it's not even close

 

[Big R]

Vlad and Ando would be rubbing their paws together with glee at the moment......until an AFL team stuffs up or old news comes out....which is bound to happen.

Maybe they might expose how Buddy put more than just 100 GOALS away last year

lol, I heard he just made that one too. Still that's not anywhere near the same degree as what Johns and the Cronulla boys did.

 

[1908]

Whilst most of you are claiming the high moral ground, anyone care for an opinion on Albert Proud from the Brisbane Lions who was in court this week for GLASSING a female. Or would you care to give an opinion on why this has had virtually zero media attention. Where's the hysteria, sensationalism, talkback etc that would accompany such an incident in RL?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25466632-3102,00.html

And before you all try and write RL off in private schools read this:

http://www.nswrl.com.au/news/article.php?id=647

ARL today underlines commitment
Friday, 15th May 2009

The Australian Rugby League shares the disappointment and concern held at school and junior levels regarding recent media headlines and at the same time has received strong messages of support from Principals within the education system.

The ARL through its development arm ARL Development has made a positive impact on the lifestyles of almost 6 million children in the past decade, nearly 3 million of which were girls.

At a Junior League level various initiatives put in place to encourage women and girls' involvement in the game has led to a recent survey revealing over 60% of administrative positions in junior clubs are filled by women.

In 2009, Rugby League will involve more than 10,000 females participating in school and community competitions throughout Australia.

The ARL today underlined its ongoing commitment in this area at the grass roots level, with initiatives including:

SCHOOLS
• The employment of 65 ARL Development Officers to work in schools, 70% of which are former school teachers, 40% of which are female, and 80% of which hold a tertiary qualification
• The provision of grants of over $300,000 per year to state school associations to conduct both grass roots and elite competitions
• The accreditation of 417 teacher coaches in 2008, in specific teacher courses
• More than 271,000 students participated in school competitions in 2008

JUNIOR LEAGUE
• In 2003, the establishment of a Women and Girls Committee to encourage the involvement of women and girls in Rugby League as players, administrators and volunteers.
• The implementation of coaching, first aid, refereeing, and other education courses, interlinked with the NRL's One Community programs.
• NSWRL Staff working with community groups, particularly in western Sydney, to promote healthy lifestyles

School Principals today voiced their support of the Australian Rugby League’s presence in schools and the work being carried out by various development officers and players.

"I'm appalled at some of the things that have come to light recently… but you can't tar everyone with the same brush," Fairfield Patrician Brothers Principal Mr John Killeen said today.

"As Principals, we see first hand the impact the game has on our students, and particularly for our school the work that has been done with some of our disadvantaged children has been outstanding.

"The development officers that visit our school and the players we have had here – I think they are good role models for the students.

"Whether there is a [negative] culture or not, and there obviously is in certain areas and some clubs – the reality is we must continue to work with our students about being aware of their responsibilities in society.

"Things like responsible consumption of alcohol, respect for women, all of these things we try to give them moral guidance on, whether they are elite sportsmen or not.

"We traditionally and still do have Rugby League as a high profile sport within the school, and I feel that a lot of the good things that the League has done in schools goes unrecognised."

Principal of Cronulla High School, Mr Tony Ibrahim, said:

"We were asked by a journalist if we would be banning Rugby League players from the school and we told them they are more than welcome to come.

"There are a lot of double standards in saying players should be banned from coming to schools… stereotyping and tarnishing all players with what occurred I think is wrong.

"I played Rugby League all through my junior days and at school level and it taught me discipline and a number of values that I still live by today – such as doing your best.

"With obesity and health issues quite prevalent at the moment we shouldn’t be pushing kids away from sport, we should be encouraging their participation.

"You've got to educate people the best you can, change the culture and try to move forward, and I think a lot of clubs are trying to do that.”

President of the NSW Combined Catholic Colleges Rugby League, Mr Nal Wijesekera, added:

"There are a lot of positive things happening and the type of player we have produced through the Catholic system, say someone like Chris Lawrence is a perfect example," Mr Wijesekera said.

"He's got wonderful family values, is a highly intelligent young man and regardless of whether he keeps playing football, will go a long way.

"I think generally speaking all Catholic schools are happy with the work the League does and to be honest we're always in need of more development officers.

"They are not only there to teach the game, they teach the spirit of the game and the positive values it represents… things like friendship, respect and a healthy lifestyle."

ARL Chief Executive Geoff Carr said:

"While we share the disappointment and concern over the incidents recently brought to light, we do know that Rugby League makes an enormous contribution to schools throughout the country.

"We will continue to make that contribution because we know that the vast majority of players and every one of our development officers are positive role models for boys and girls."

 

[ARES]

RL had Gasnier as the face of RL....he ditched them for Rugby Union
Then they had Sonny Bill Williams, he too ditched RL for Rugby Union
3rd time time lucky? Nope Even worse...

They chose Brett Stewart only for him to be currently up for "rape charges" against a 17 year old girl...

Then we have Matty Johns who was the face of the footy show and Rugby League...sacked!

He instigated and coordinated the gang bang of a 19 year old forgetting about his wife and family...and it became big news...

4 of their biggest stars and face of RL dishing the code...no wonder many of their supporters are confused

But yet Mr Diablo can only cry and tear at the thought of the big bad media writing bad things and hurting his feelings....but miss, miss what about him?? sniff....whoah is diablo...cry me a river

 

[ARES]

Whilst most of you are claiming the high moral ground, anyone care for an opinion on Albert Proud from the Brisbane Lions who was in court this week for GLASSING a female. Or would you care to give an opinion on why this has had virtually zero media attention. Where's the hysteria, sensationalism, talkback etc that would accompany such an incident in RL?

Sensationalism?

Albert Proud threw a wine glass at a woman and caused injuries

Guilty and should/will be punished accordingly

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But Greg Bird DID glass a female

He held the glass in hand and thrusted it at his girlfriend and not only cut her up but broke her eye socket!

http://www.nrlnews.com/2008/08/25/greg-bird-police-assault-charges-over-glassing/

Bird caged by Sharks after Glassing

August 25, 2008

During a brief court hearing today, Cronulla Sharks and NRL star Greg Bird was pinned as the alleged attacker in the glassing of his girlfriend Katie Milligan over the weekend.

The charges laid relate to an alleged assault occasioning grievous bodily harm on Katie Milligan; a US National who has been the girlfriend of Greg Bird for some months. The woman copping a broken eye socket and severe wounding when smashed in the face with a glass.

 

[ARES]

she goes into a room with two men and then signals that if the others "want to come in, then you have to be naked"

Matty Johns instigated and led the whole episode of 11 grown men to gang bang a 19 year old
(He watched all the players walk in so he walked out, this good samaritan did? Find thathard to believe ;-) )

The Matt Johns who is a married man with a family

The Matt Johns that who was the face of RL footy show

The Matt Johns who has a high profile in the media, who was looked up to by many...

What backlash if any did you expect? He brought the game into disrepute

Forget who is right and who is wrong, he tarnished his name and the code you follow. If you can't see that then you are one blind fool led by the other blind fools why cry wolf in LU (lala) land...

 

[1908]

Oh pleeeeeeeease:


Wayne Carey, one of greatest players ever, well we all know the story..............................................

Gary Ablett, "God", again we all know the story................................................................................

Ben Cousin's, Brownlow Medal winner, again we know the story...........................................

Michael Voss, Brownlow Medal winner, we know the story of the king hit, brawl, pub etc

Brad Hardie, Brwnlow Medal winner, http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22775814-948,00.html

Do we need to go on?

Whilst we are talking about the John's incident, how about we request the ABC's Four Corner's to have another look into this little incident, I'll think you'll find it is quite alot more disturbing, and truly shows which IS the "Code of Silence":

http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/commo...//www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1069962.htm

MARK BRAYSHAW, FORMER MARKETING MANAGER, PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB: Adam Heuskes was a player at Port, so was Peter. Then Adam left the club and so I'm sure they were pretty thick friends during and after the period that they played together.
TICKY FULLERTON: The night in question, Heuskes and Burgoyne caught up with a third player, Sydney Swan Michael O'Loughlin, here at the Heaven nightclub. About 10:30 that evening, a woman we'll name 'Jane' arrived at the nightclub with friends.
JANE'S COUSIN: She's very quiet. She's an introvert, certainly not out-there, um, not one of the groupies that, you know, people would see hanging off the footballers.
TICKY FULLERTON: Jane has signed a confidentiality agreement, which gags her from talking about the night. However, Four Corners has obtained a taped interview, made in the presence of her lawyer in 2001 before the confidentiality agreement was signed. Again to protect her identity, we have revoiced her interview, word for word.
That night, the 20-year-old had had far too much to drink - eight or nine beers. At around midnight, she was introduced to Adam Heuskes.
TICKY FULLERTON: According to Jane, in an isolated spot, the two followers, Adam Heuskes and Michael O'Loughlin, caught up. She says her clothes were ripped off, her bag thrown away. She was forced to the ground, tossed around like a rag doll and r*ped.
MAN: Were you r*ped?
JANE: Yes.
TICKY FULLERTON: On the same tape, Jane's lawyer describes all three players being involved in sexual abuse.
MAN: You were absolutely positive it was Adam Heuskes, Peter Burgoyne and Michael O'Loughlin?
JANE: Yeah.
TICKY FULLERTON: Jane says she was r*ped by Adam Heuskes and Peter Burgoyne and that at one point, Heuskes and Michael O'Loughlin were masturbating close to her face.
JANE: I came to, then - and they did that - then blacked out again.
MAN: The three of them did that?
JANE: Um, I think it was just Heuskes and O'Loughlin - it was dark, yep - while Peter was doing other things.
TICKY FULLERTON: About 2:30am, Jane says she woke up, half-naked, dishevelled and alone in the park. Four Corners has been told Jane says she was a virgin before that night.
Friends who missed Jane at the nightclub were shocked when they found her. They took her straight to the police. Two of the footballers, Adam Heuskes and Peter Burgoyne, were charged. Yet six weeks later, charges were dropped. The Director of Public Prosecutions, Paul Rofe, stated there was "no reasonable prospect of conviction on any criminal charge". He has reiterated that to Four Corners.
What was your reaction when the case was dropped?
JANE'S COUSIN: Absolutely disgusted. Um...
TICKY FULLERTON: So the police thought they had a strong case?
JANE'S COUSIN: Absolutely. Very strong case, yes. TICKY FULLERTON: Jane's two cousins refused to accept the decision. They went to see Paul Rofe in person.
JANE'S COUSIN: I strongly remember Paul Rofe saying that he believes 100% that she was r*ped.
TICKY FULLERTON: HE believed she was r*ped?
JANE'S COUSIN: He believed she was r*ped. The rape was premeditated for the other two boys to be following, um...but legally he couldn't take it any further because it boiled down to a case of what he said, she said, so there were no witnesses to the rape.
TICKY FULLERTON: So the footballers' words against your cousin's?
JANE'S COUSIN: Absolutely. So the footballers walk away... even after the police trying to fight to keep the case alive.
JANE'S COUSIN 2: To be told face-to-face by the DPP at the time that it was without doubt in his mind that it had happened was devastating.
TICKY FULLERTON: Jane's cousins have also expressed their concern about the DPP's close football connections. He was on the board of the Adelaide Crows at the time.
JANE'S COUSIN 1: I think his ties within the AFL were far stronger than what they should be for someone making a decision against AFL players. You've got a victim that had been hurt by three people, not one person, um...and yet it still wasn't allowed to be heard by a jury.
TICKY FULLERTON: Paul Rofe told Four Corners he considered his conversations with the victim and her family confidential, and that at the time he had determined he did not have a conflict of interest.
Peter Burgoyne is still playing for Port Adelaide. The club fined him a reported $5,000, but would not answer questions on this, referring Four Corners to the AFL.
ANDREW DEMETRIOU, AFL CHIEF EXECUTIVE: You'd have to direct those questions to the Port Adelaide Football club.
TICKY FULLERTON: They've directed us to you.
ANDREW DEMETRIOU: Yeah, but again you've mentioned a word there which is ALLEGED assault. Why Port Adelaide chose to fine Peter Burgoyne for being out at night and being in an inappropriate place is a matter between Port Adelaide and the player. Again, I'm not privy to why they fine them, other than I know there was a $5,000 fine.
TICKY FULLERTON: Could it have been because he was associating with Adam Heuskes?
ANDREW DEMETRIOU: I don't know. Again, I'm not privy to that information.

 

[finders]

Matty Johns instigated and led the whole episode of 11 grown men to gang bang a 19 year old
(He watched all the players walk in so he walked out, this good samaritan did? Find thathard to believe ;-) )

The Matt Johns who is a married man with a family

The Matt Johns that who was the face of RL footy show

The Matt Johns who has a high profile in the media, who was looked up to by many...

What backlash if any did you expect? He brought the game into disrepute

Forget who is right and who is wrong, he tarnished his name and the code you follow. If you can't see that then you are one blind fool led by the other blind fools why cry wolf in LU (lala) land...

Matt Johns is and always has been an arrogant big headed tosser and is getting his just deserts A bit like the average thugby fan really!

FFS take the big Maoris and and Islanders out of thugby and the teams would struggle to field a team.

 

[1908]

Sensationalism?

Albert Proud threw a wine glass at a woman and caused injuries

Guilty and should/will be punished accordingly

-----------

But Greg Bird DID glass a female

He held the glass in hand and thrusted it at his girlfriend and not only cut her up but broke her eye socket!

http://www.nrlnews.com/2008/08/25/greg-bird-police-assault-charges-over-glassing/

Bird caged by Sharks after Glassing

August 25, 2008

So Bird THRUST his glass at his girlfriend (who by the way, has stuck solid with him and discredited media reports) yet Proud caused an injury.

Proud caused an injury that required 5 stitches, now for something like that to happen I would imagine it would need to hit with force, would it not? Dare I say it...was it THRUSTED at her.

The injuries are irrelevent what I am arguing is the reporting of the two incidents which are basically the same.

 

[1908]

Matt Johns is and always has been an arrogant big headed tosser and is getting his just deserts A bit like the average thugby fan really!

FFS take the big Maoris and and Islanders out of thugby and the teams would struggle to field a team.

Is that based on your detailed research?

Care to comment Finders on the AFL 4 Corner's story?

 

[dan warna]

RL is dying.

its lost the fight.

i feel little sympathy for the fools it leaves behind

 

[mediumsizered]

Whilst most of you are claiming the high moral ground, anyone care for an opinion on Albert Proud from the Brisbane Lions who was in court this week for GLASSING a female. Or would you care to give an opinion on why this has had virtually zero media attention. Where's the hysteria, sensationalism, talkback etc that would accompany such an incident in RL?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25466632-3102,00.html

And before you all try and write RL off in private schools read this:

http://www.nswrl.com.au/news/article.php?id=647

You're comparing an incident involving 10+ rugby league players to one involving a single AFL player, which FWIW, has been widely reported in both the Gold Coast Bulletin & The Courier Mail.

If the "gang-bang" was a one-off incident you would perhaps suggest the media coverage is over the top, but it wasn't a one-off incident. It wasn't all that long ago that an NRL team was involved in a similar incident at Coffs Harbour & as mentioned by another poster, Brett Stewart is also facing charges in relation to an alleged 'liaison' with a teenage girl.

I guess as long as there is people like you prepared to 'fly the flag' for this unconscionable behavior, rugby league players will continue to consider themselves untouchable.

It is about time victims started to blow the whistle about these incidents which have been going on for a number of years & have involved a number of high profile rugby league players. Hopefully the media will follow this through until all the perpetrators of numerous incidents are named & shamed.

 

[1908]

Mate I suggest you re-read what I wrote, I was comparing Bird to Proud and the reporting of the two incidents. Bird was hung drawn and quartered before anyone knew the real facts, his girlfriend has even stood by him and said the media reports have been disgusting.

Interesting how most of you AFL fans won't comment on the Adelaide incident yet are quite happy to pass judgement and condemn a whole code. People in glass houses as they say.


It appears the girl involved in the John's incident (she didn't have sex with 11 players) has form:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/814419/more-sharks-players-named-in-scandal

More Sharks players present during a night of group sex seven years ago have been named as another claim about her involvement in multiple partner intercourse emerge.

Nine News named former Cronulla players Luke Branighan and Daniel Ninness as players who had some form of involvement with the woman, known only as Clare, at the Racecourse Hotel in Christchurch in 2002.

Branighan, who is now playing Super League in the UK, was allegedly in the room when Clare was having sex with former players Matthew Johns and Brett Firman.

When "Clare" gestured for another player to have sex with her after Johns and Firman, Branighan stepped forward.

The woman then reportedly knocked Branighan back and requested Johns to have sex with her again, to which Johns claimed he denied.

Nine News also revealed that former Sharks prop Daniel Ninness was in attendance on the night, but he has denied he participated in the group sex.

"I was present towards the end of the evening," Ninness said in a statement.

"I did not see any of the events said to have occurred and did not participate.”

Ninness confirmed he went back to the woman's home after she invited him to do so but did not have sex with her.

Meanwhile another claim about the past of the woman at the centre of the scandal have been reported.

Seven News reports "Clare" once had sex with two rugby union players in a nightclub toilet.
It's the latest in a series of sordid claims related to the woman.

Tania Boyd worked with the then-19-year-old at the Racecourse Hotel in Christchurch and told Nine News she did not appear at all distressed after the incident.(Read more: Sex scandal woman "bragged about it")
"She was absolutely excited about the fact: she was bragging about it to the staff and quite willing, openly saying how she had sex with several players," Ms Boyd said.
"We were quite disgusted about it ... there was no trauma whatsoever."

The boss of both women at the time says "Clare" was a "decent, stable type with her head screwed on.

Keith Burgess, the woman's manager at the Racecourse Hotel in Christchurch, where the incident occurred, said he had sympathy for the woman but also for the sportsmen involved.(Read more: Woman in NRL scandal was "decent")

"It's all a big bloody mess, if you ask me," Burgess said.

 

[Consolaçao]

Not one poor act, but one of MANY MANY disgusting acts involving league players. It is incredibly widespread, as was documented in the Four Corners program. I grew up in the western suburbs of Sydney and have many tales from league blokes...

And you think she was "as much to blame"? She goes to a hotel room with two men, and they give a signal and ten more pile in, then proceed to line up at the end of the bed and screw her, whilst other men stand by and whack off over her as their 'mates' have a go, and in those two hours none of them even speak to her, like she's not even human, that she barely exists outside of a thing for them to play with???

This isn't even group sex, but something far more perverse, more lurid and homo-erotic than most people care to ponder. It is deeply weird and disturbing...Give it a bit more thought sunshine...

Well put mate... can't stand the 'she was as much to blame as he was' defence. The poor girl... the fact that Johns only shows regret for the hurt it's caused his family and himself is an indication he's not much of a human being.

 

[1873 United]

I don't really see why this or how this debate has turned into football v rugby, in the end of the day it is society at war with itself.

As I stated earlier if you take the moral high ground your no better than the church for taking handouts, however that's your choice and remember that word choice.

So long as the law isn't being broken, why are people so ignorant as to judge people for how they get their legal kicks?

 

[mediumsizered]

It appears the girl involved in the John's incident (she didn't have sex with 11 players) has form:

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She has form, in other words you mean she brought it on herself & therefore deserves no sympathy. It is this sort of attitude that so often leads to people associated with rugby league being described as 'neanderthals'.

There is no dressing this up. Matty Johns & his counterparts participated in an incident that was absolutely appalling behaviour & if Matty Johns only thinks he owes an apology to his wife & family, then it is clear he has no concept of what is considered to be reasonable behaviour.

Whether she had form or not (such an unsavory suggestion), she did not deserve to be humiliated in such a way by a group of individuals who think they are some sort of 'demi-gods' & apparently above reproach.

 

[zero]

Whilst most of you are claiming the high moral ground, anyone care for an opinion on Albert Proud from the Brisbane Lions who was in court this week for GLASSING a female. Or would you care to give an opinion on why this has had virtually zero media attention. Where's the hysteria, sensationalism, talkback etc that would accompany such an incident in RL?

its really not that hard to figure out, if you werent shitscared and paranoid and seeing anti-RL sentiment everywhere you could figure it out for yourself.

ill give you a hint, Ben Cousins was front page news in Perth for weeks, whereas in Sydney and Brisbane it was only for a few days, then was pushed back 5 deep into the paper.

give up? matty johns is one of the most recognizable faces in australian rugby league, he fronts the footy show and has done for years

quite simply, he is the most famous, and there is alot of papers to be sold by showing the public the dispicable things he does.

albert proud? im a keen AFL follower and i have no idea who the **** that is.

if he was famous like carey, cousins, bird or johns, if he was a legend or media personality, it would be a shitstorm.

the melbourne media will be finished with this story next week, because noone knows or cares who matty johns is.

the sydney media will be running with this for weeks if not months.

 

[Consolaçao]

Mate I suggest you re-read what I wrote, I was comparing Bird to Proud and the reporting of the two incidents. Bird was hung drawn and quartered before anyone knew the real facts, his girlfriend has even stood by him and said the media reports have been disgusting.

Interesting how most of you AFL fans won't comment on the Adelaide incident yet are quite happy to pass judgement and condemn a whole code. People in glass houses as they say.


It appears the girl involved in the John's incident (she didn't have sex with 11 players) has form:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/814419/more-sharks-players-named-in-scandal

Jeeeeesus... This isn't about AFL vs RL, you degenerate.

As a league fan you probably take the tabloid press as gospel, but have you ever thought that, either:

1) this girl is lying/stretching the truth? Maybe she has an agenda? An issue with this girl?
2) Maybe talking about it (or boasting as this woman sensitively put it) was a coping mechanism for her? Something that she could do that would 'normalise' it?

Look, someone I know was sexually assaulted and I saw the hurt it caused her... she'll never be the same, her trust in people has been totally shattered. Maybe you think it's all a joke for her like it was for the guys involved, but I really don't think you understand...

 

[ziad]

well I had to laugh

serious issue though

 

[1908]

So you agree regarding the media reporting, good.

By the way are drugs not ILLEGAL? Since when has group sex been so?

Now Con, as a degenerate I'd like to point you to post one in this thread, and then please tell me again in your articulate manner this isn't a thread about AFL v NRL.

Look, someone I know was sexually assaulted and I saw the hurt it caused her... she'll never be the same, her trust in people has been totally shattered. Maybe you think it's all a joke for her like it was for the guys involved, but I really don't think you understand...

I agree you must be disgusted in O'Loughlin, Burgoyne and Heuskus, I know I am.

Any comments boys the silence is deafening????

 

[ARES]

So Bird THRUST his glass at his girlfriend (who by the way, has stuck solid with him and discredited media reports) yet Proud caused an injury.

Hahaha yeah she ran at full speed into a broken drinking glass....

And he initially pointed his finger at his mate, and didnt admit fault, just like you and your RL buddies point the finger at, the girl in the Matty Johns incident, at the 17 year old against Stewart, at the media for doing their job, at AFL because they are the big bad boogie man who is out to get the righteous helpless RL...

Grow up tool and face the music! You maketh the bed, you sleep in it

Proud caused an injury that required 5 stitches, now for something like that to happen I would imagine it would need to hit with force, would it not? Dare I say it...was it THRUSTED at her.

Yep, one is charged with throwing a glass and causing injury, hence 5 stitches, the other charged with glassing hence breaking a females eye socket

The injuries are irrelevent what I am arguing is the reporting of the two incidents which are basically the same.

Yep, same incidents...