NSW Catholic schools looking to dump Rugby League

[finders]

Are you a ****ing idiot? The swanns are the only team in the city, compared to rugby league where there are 9 ****ing teams. It is expected that singularly the swans should get higher crowds, if they werent you'd be worrying (and i think 2 weeks ago the swans played against carlton infron of less than the attendance of the Bulldogs Tigers fixture at the same time).
That was a great crowd for rugby league, a code that has never had the same level of attendence as AFL but is improving this season (despite what the media thinks). Yes the crowds on saturday night were shit but hey, port adelaide only managed 23 000 in an afl city on sunday. Whats going on there?

Bullshit!What about 130,000 to two matches on the same day in Melbourne on Sunday then??

BTW it was pissing rain in Adelaide FYI.Thugby wether people like you RL urgers like to admit it or not it is a dying sport with a limited appeal to the masses and an AFL team in WS is not going to help its longterm survival either.

 

[gostk86]

Bullshit!What about 130,000 to two matches on the same day in Melbourne on Sunday then??

BTW it was pissing rain in Adelaide FYI.Thugby wether people like you RL urgers like to admit it or not it is a dying sport with a limited appeal to the masses and an AFL team in WS is not going to help its longterm survival either.

dont think anyone ever says afl fans dont support their teams (especially in melbourne)

sydney crowds for what ever reason since 1908 have never been as big, but still number 1 game in sydney, different cultures is probably what it comes down to

 

[Bomber Bears]

lol this afl team in sydney?
The same western sydney that got 19000 to a finals game

I pointed out we have always had much shitter crowds than afl, but i think a comparrison between rl in sydney and afl in sydney is fair enough, im not even trying to compete with melbourne at this stage.

As for our supposed dying sport, averages are increasing membership is increasing and once the sharks are culled and a few other sides brought in the game will continue to grow.

 

[gostk86]

Hilarious.

The NRL have to talk up this crowd in a match that was billed as an "event" between three of the most traditional clubs in Sydney (Wests, Balmain and Souths).

The Swans get that sort of crowd just about every week

swans get very good crowds, not many people say they dont, perhaps when they play at homebush these days

Eight thousand "flocked" to watch the Roosters and eleven thousand "flocked" to watch the Panthers in the heartland of Rugby League.

roosters have no fans so no surprise they got a shocker (they always do)
panthers crowds arent actually that high, plus playing the sharks to which never draws a crowd lol

If WS18 get 11k to a home game in 2012 just watch the snide remarks and pathetic headlines in the Sydney media.

they will because its 1 team for a pop over over 1.5 mil or how ever many, but i expect WS to get 15k crowds

 

[desie]

Are you a ****ing idiot? The swanns are the only team in the city, compared to rugby league where there are 9 ****ing teams. It is expected that singularly the swans should get higher crowds, if they werent you'd be worrying (and i think 2 weeks ago the swans played against carlton infron of less than the attendance of the Bulldogs Tigers fixture at the same time).
That was a great crowd for rugby league, a code that has never had the same level of attendence as AFL but is improving this season (despite what the media thinks). Yes the crowds on saturday night were shit but hey, port adelaide only managed 23 000 in an afl city on sunday. Whats going on there?

Hang on, we're talking about the entrenched code against a game that no-one apparently gives two hoots about. But it's "expected" that the Swans should draw more?

When was the last time that the Storm drew more than any one AFL match in Melbourne on the same weekend?

This is three of the most traditional clubs in Sydney remember, and they can't even get 30k on a perfect day for footy back at the Cricket Ground, yet they trumpet it in a press release!

Swans v Carlton got more than 30k on a Saturday afternoon (when no NRL matches are played). I'm not sure what the crowd was to the Bulldogs v Tigers match but I'd be very surprised if it was more.

And this argument about the NRL traditionally not attracting crowds is just a poor excuse for an average product. Sydney has five million people yet a number in the tens of thousands combined turn out to watch four or five matches on any given weekend.

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

Independant catholic schools, eg riverview and St Joeys, yes.

The standard catholic school (which isnt much different to public schools really) has long been rugby league alligned. My dad went to the Marist brothers schools in sydney, there's various other ones similar (St Gregs a noteable one). Home of the irish working class who have long played the game.

Thanks for the clarification. Having not gone to school in Sydney, I didn't grasp what was what

roosters have no fans so no surprise they got a shocker (they always do)
panthers crowds arent actually that high, plus playing the sharks to which never draws a crowd lol

TO be fair, Cronulla fans don't know their way out of the Sutherland Shire

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

And this argument about the NRL traditionally not attracting crowds is just a poor excuse for an average product. Sydney has five million people yet a number in the tens of thousands combined turn out to watch four or five matches on any given weekend.

You'll never win this argument, you know that right?
You may as well go to Brazil and tell them that soccer is no good

Pretty soon (or I might be about to give them the idea) you'll get the rebuttal of "there's so much more to do in Sydney than go to the league"

I can't answer why more people attend AFL in Melbourne than League in Sydney (typical ground capacities aside), but you'll never win with an argument of "our product is better than yours". This is precisely the folly of the AFLs latest marketing campaign, and isn't how the game should be pitched to Western Sydney

They might not get the crowds, but generally speaking the people of Sydney will never tell you that Aussie Rules is better. It's that sport from Victoria, for one

 

[Andrew Mc]

When was the last time that the Storm drew more than any one AFL match in Melbourne on the same weekend?

15200 Melbourne v New Zealand Olympic 25-Apr-2009
14129 Melbourne v Adelaide M.C.G. 26-Apr-2009

 

[tonk]

Are you a ****ing idiot? The swanns are the only team in the city, compared to rugby league where there are 9 ****ing teams. It is expected that singularly the swans should get higher crowds, if they werent you'd be worrying (and i think 2 weeks ago the swans played against carlton infron of less than the attendance of the Bulldogs Tigers fixture at the same time).
That was a great crowd for rugby league, a code that has never had the same level of attendence as AFL but is improving this season (despite what the media thinks). Yes the crowds on saturday night were shit but hey, port adelaide only managed 23 000 in an afl city on sunday. Whats going on there?

Saturday 18/4/09
St George/Illawarra vs Newcastle, Win Jubilee Stadium; 14,447
South Sydney vs Manly, ANZ Stadium; 14,425
Swans vs Carlton, S.C.G.; 30,384

That round Wests played Melbourne at Leichardt on the Monday and The Bulldogs played the Eels at ANZ stadium on the Sunday.

 

[desie]

15200 Melbourne v New Zealand Olympic 25-Apr-2009
14129 Melbourne v Adelaide M.C.G. 26-Apr-2009

Thanks mate, touche

I presume there were about five thousand Kiwis there bolstering the numbers.

 

[Bomber Bears]

my bad, it was the sydney richmond game. Which im pretty sure the tigers-dogs game did outdraw

 

[1908]

1908, you like all RL supporters are big on conspiracy theories (due to some paranoia). You claim that there is no reporting on AFL player indescretions, but yet you find articles on them

you like to compare an unknown player of Proud to someone in the spotlight like Mathew Johns, yet I wouldn't know who Bird or Stewart was if they stood up in my cornflakes, (but they are apperntly big names) you make no comparisons in the reporting of Johns with the like of Ablett, Carey and Cousins in this city, which leaves it for dead.

In this city the AFL get a worse run, because that is what people want to hear about except for you being a rugby league supporter you hear what you want to hear and basically thats negative rl reporting,

Your a goose sweetheart.

I was comparing incident's that are alike not names. Try to keep up.

Proud unknown? He was all over the news kicking goals for the Lions over the weekend.

I live in Melbourne mate am fully aware of what goes on down here.

Paranoia? A few years ago I was driving home on a Friday night listening to the end of the AFL match on the ABC when Tim Lane said "Now for the illiterate here's the rugby league result". Now tell me what other sport has to put up with this sort of garbage and prejudice?

 

[fabulousphil]

I believe Catholic Riverview college in North Sydney has a few teams running from it ....... the next catholic schools with teams from would be probably be a fair way south ........St Eddies and Marist brothers in Canberra, whom i might add have produced a couple of current AFL footballers as well as Alex Jesaulenko.

Rugby league will not be leaving catholic schools in Sydney in a hurry me thinks.

 

[ARES]

"Now for the illiterate here's the rugby league result". Now tell me what other sport has to put up with this sort of garbage and prejudice?

Hahaha so true...

The show Pizza sums up most RL supporters...

 

[Bomber Bears]

Hahaha so true...

The show Pizza sums up most RL supporters...

 

[gostk86]

TO be fair, Cronulla fans don't know their way out of the Sutherland Shire

you being sarcastic lol

damn computers we need tone text

 

[ARES]

When you watch the RL footy show you cannot but just shake your head when listening to RL players struggle to string a cohesive sentence...

Then again you need to be a nuff nuff to play a simpleton game...

 

[gostk86]

When you watch the RL footy show you cannot but just shake your head when listening to RL players struggle to string a cohesive sentence...

Then again you need to be a nuff nuff to play a simpleton game...

lol so now its down to attacking players and how they speak, oh dude take a nap and try again tomorrow

 

[ARES]

lol so now its down to attacking players and how they speak, oh dude take a nap and try again tomorrow

But it's true...not attacking them just stating how it is...

The latest one I listened to was Benji...

Fatty (Vautan)? aint the brightest light bulb, in fact Vossy has given some appeal to the footy show...and doubled the IQ of the panel

Willie Mason...

 

[chiwigi]

The antipathy of both codes makes me laugh. It is only by an accident of history and geography that the country is split. If there wasn't such a vast space between the cities a combined code would have been inevitable.

I love both codes and would be devastated to see either go and the bad news from both gets on my nerves.

There is plenty of room in Oz for both codes. There doesn't have to be an outright winner and there doesn't have to be so much hatred both ways...it's counter productive and ultimately pointless.

GO THE POWER AND GO THE RABBITOHS

 

[Nankervis brothers]

When you watch the RL footy show you cannot but just shake your head when listening to RL players struggle to string a cohesive sentence...

Then again you need to be a nuff nuff to play a simpleton game...

Yeah, much better to watch Sam Newman in black face, taking the piss out of Nicky Winmar. Or watch him "taking it to the street" and getting cheap laughs out of the mentally ill. That's classy!

 

[Chook Norris]

BTW it was pissing rain in Adelaide FYI.Thugby wether people like you RL urgers like to admit it or not it is a dying sport with a limited appeal to the masses and an AFL team in WS is not going to help its longterm survival either.

once again another AFL supporter saying things without proof

Let me guess, you see the sight of small crowds in big stadiums and conclude that RL is dead fact is RL always have had small crowds.. AFL crowds are excellent and that is undisputable.. AFL has a higher average attendance than English Premier League Soccer, but does that it's more popular than Soccer in England? hell no.

The Swans are expected to draw more than most NRL crowds.. why? because it is a one team town, where as RL has 9 teams in Sydney(this logic doesn't work with AFL in Melbourne however.. but you get the point)

Another fact i might throw in: RL is much more suitable to watch on TV, it is mostly played in segments on the field.. people sitting on the other end of the ground have no chance of seeing anything. Stadiums like the SCG and ANZ stadium simply are not for Rugby League.. hell even RL stadiums like Suncorp deliver average views

Bris vs GC always get the highest attendance for the year

wrong get your facts right, the game in round 1 with the cowboys was watched by a bigger crowd


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Clare's story gets dodgier by the minute.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25497760-661,00.html

Matthew Johns sex-storm woman marries
Article from: Herald Sun

Janet Fife-Yeomans

May 18, 2009 12:00am

THE woman at the centre of the Matthew Johns sex scandal has since married a rugby union player.

The couple live overseas, where friends said she was "trying to get on with her life".

Her family in New Zealand, who knew nothing about the 2002 group sex scandal until last week, refused to comment.

But the owner of the Racecourse Hotel in Christchurch said that while rugby league stalwart Johns and the Cronulla Sharks were welcome back at the hotel, their alleged victim was not.

John Butterfield said the Sharks squad who stayed there in 2002 were "a great bunch of guys".

He criticised their accuser, then a 19-year-old university student who worked part-time at the hotel.

"It's buggered Matthew Johns's whole life," Mr Butterfield said.

Mr Butterfield said the woman had crowed to staff about a sexual liaison with two footballers in the men's toilet at a sports bar the night before the group sex session.

It is not known if they were Cronulla players.

She claims that on the following night, Cronulla players climbed in through the bathroom window of Room 15, where she was having sex with Johns and Brett Firman.

Mr Butterfield, whose son built the motel-style unit, said that was not possible.

"There's no way you can get through the window," he said.

"They were a great bunch of guys. It was a pleasure to have them here. They would be welcomed back any time."

Mr Butterfield said he felt sorry for Johns and his family.

"His kids think of him as a hero, and he is. But he's being portrayed as a gang rapist, and he isn't," he said.

"I'm just disgusted that a staff member would carry on like that. They have to realise - and it's in their contract - they are not allowed to fraternise with the guests.

"It's a no-no.

"I was really brassed off about it all, that a member of staff would do this in the hotel.

"It's a sad thing, the whole thing, but there's nothing that I could have done or that the manager could have done."

His wife, Yvonne Butterfield, said she had sympathy for the Johns family and she "wouldn't like my children to live with that".

"I do think the others who were there should all admit it, but then again it's going to cause so much more grief," she said.

Christchurch police said there was no evidence to lay criminal charges against any of the Sharks squad.

Nor would they charge the young woman with making a false complaint.

 

[ARES]

Yeah, much better to watch Sam Newman in black face, taking the piss out of Nicky Winmar. Or watch him "taking it to the street" and getting cheap laughs out of the mentally ill. That's classy!

But can string a constructive sentence...

 

[chiwigi]

The antipathy of both codes makes me laugh. It is only by an accident of history and geography that the country is split. If there wasn't such a vast space between the cities a combined code would have been inevitable.

I love both codes and would be devastated to see either go and the bad news from both gets on my nerves.

There is plenty of room in Oz for both codes. There doesn't have to be an outright winner and there doesn't have to be so much hatred both ways...it's counter productive and ultimately pointless.

GO THE POWER AND GO THE RABBITOHS

 

[Nankervis brothers]

But can string a constructive sentence...

The AFL footy show is just a different form of bogan land than the RL Footy show, so i wouldn't be getting all high and mighty.