Official Trade Thread.

[Iva Bigun]

From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

This is for the Jon Ralph article today, either he or Bluey are reading the Bigfooty forum I reckon

BRISBANE
THE Lions could end up with a clutch of draft picks, great in normal circumstances but not ideal in a shallow draft.
They already have an early first-round pick at eight, a compensation pick at pick 27, and then their second round pick at 31.
They could add another first-round pick for Mitch Clark, who now seems almost certain to get to Fremantle.
It is a bitter blow for the Lions to lose Clark given he is entering his prime, but the horse has bolted.
With Jonathan Brown only having a handful of years left, the perfect replacement would be Kurt Tippett.
Gold Coast might struggle to fit him into the salary cap, and Brisbane is likely to have room and the picks to throw at him.
They butchered the Brendan Fevola trade, but Tippett is younger and a more solid citizen.
Lions football manager Dean Warren admitted an interest recently.
''He is a Queenslander, he is obviously an exceptional athlete and he is becoming a terrific player.
''With Jonathan Brown entering veteran status over the next couple of years he would be a perfect succession plan for Brownie. We need to explore it.''
The Lions could get a late pick in exchange for Luke Power from GWS, but know they need to recruit young kids and just force-feed them games.

GOLD COAST
THE Suns were linked early to Adelaide forward Kurt Tippett, but at this stage they seem more intent on luring more young elite talent into their list.
Tippett won't come cheap, so they might instead choose to use their pick 4 on Perth teen Jaeger O'Meara, one of the 17-year-olds GWS can trade off for picks or players.
If they got him in it would give GWS all of picks 1-5 this year, and allow the Suns some breathing space in their salary cap.
They know they will need it given Victorian clubs are certain to launch raids on their many first-year players who come out of contract next year.
Only a handful have already extended their contracts - some like David Swallow and Zac Smith.
But there will be a queue to have a crack at players like Trent McKenzie and Josh Toy.
Rival clubs know pick 4 is a special offer for O'Meara, but some like Hawthorn and Fremantle seem intent on at least finding out what the price is.

Please let it be so.

 

[Sunny_]

Re: From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

What I've noticed over the past few weeks is that journo's don't really know anything, and can only speculate. I think this is the same thing.

Is this the same guy who said we need to trade for more defenders? Defenders are the one thing we don't need! We're set there I think. Just need experience.

Same article also calls the Crows Ivan Maric Adam Maric. Should say it all really. Still! Can hope.

Seems he reads BigFooty.

 

[Sunny_]

Re: From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

On another note, I cannot WAIT until this is all done. I thought the rumours were bad before, but now they're just ridiculous. Seems journos are just running with anything they get wind of with no actual sources.

Just 10 days... Another 10 days, and all these crazy rumours will be done and dusted. Then we can get geared up about where we can hope to finish next season.

 

[Fat Pizza]

Josh Jenkins

Today's Herald Sun suggest Gold Coast is one of several clubs interested in this bloke from the Bombers.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=104453

 

[Sunny_]

Re: Josh Jenkins

We must be losing some ruckman if we're seriously looking at him. Gorringe, Nicholls or Hickey.

Jenkins would be behind ALL of those guys, so if that article in the HS is true, we must be losing a big guy. My money is on Gorringe or Nicholls, as Hickey isn't quite good enough yet I don't think. Hasn't got much worth.

Maybe Gorringe will be part of a trade to the Crows after all? Especially if they're losing Maric. SA boy and all that.

 

[supernova_]

Re: From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

On another note, I cannot WAIT until this is all done. I thought the rumours were bad before, but now they're just ridiculous. Seems journos are just running with anything they get wind of with no actual sources.

Just 10 days... Another 10 days, and all these crazy rumours will be done and dusted. Then we can get geared up about where we can hope to finish next season.

Theres no actual footy anymore so it gets crazy with speculation and clutching at straw stuff

 

[Fat Pizza]

Re: Josh Jenkins

...unless they think he can develop into a key position player.

 

[HereIam86]

Re: From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

I heard alot of clubs are staying away from the mini draft because the asking price is to hight. Will you guys get jaeger o'meara because people reckon he has said he wants to be traded to one of the WA clubs.

 

[DANGERZONE123]

Re: From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

I heard alot of clubs are staying away from the mini draft because the asking price is to hight. Will you guys get jaeger o'meara because people reckon he has said he wants to be traded to one of the WA clubs.

Doesn't matter what he wants at the moment. He has nominated for the mini draft, and just like any player that nominates for any draft, you go where you've been drafted.

 

[Sunny_]

Re: From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

Doesn't matter what he wants at the moment. He has nominated for the mini draft, and just like any player that nominates for any draft, you go where you've been drafted.

Exactly. Every person would ideally like to stay home come draft time. Nice to stay with family and friends.

But you can't not take a punt on a kid just because of 'what if'. If clubs did this, those like Hawthorn would be going without Buddy Franklin. Brisbane without Jono Brown. Now they've turned into the face of their club.

O'Meara has stated that he would like to stay at a club in West Australia. Of course he would, since he's still only 17.

I guess the hope is that once he spends some time with the other young boys at GC and he gets involved there, he'll want to stay. Since he's coming on in the mini draft, he'll have a year to spend with the club before actually playing at senior level, which will hopefully sell him on it. Seemed to do the trick with David Swallow, who re-signed before the season even started.

Recent tweet from Emma Q says that O'Meara would be happy at the Suns, or any other non-based WA club. He seems to be very professional.

 

[supernova_]

Re: From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

The other thing is, if he ends up QLD or NSW, or VIC, considering he cant play in 2012 anyway you would think a lot of time would still be spend at home in WA anyway because he has to finish grade 12. I wouldn't think they would want to disrupt his education? So potentially alot of cross country flying maybe?
What did Swallow do when he was doing grade 12 but still at the Suns?

 

[HereIam86]

Re: From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

Looks like you will get him a tweet from Emma Am hearing GWS is not interested in trading for players. They have a lot of NSW zone players and don't have many spots on their list left.

 

[Sunny_]

Maybe we should have all of our ideas and discussions about trades go into one thread? Our board seems to be getting spammed with new things all the time!

Thermo, maybe you can use some of your new thread merging powers?

I'll start us off with a new article, I suppose.

Suns are looking to be quiet in trade week. Story here.

Interesting to note:

At the Gold Coast, General Manager, Football Operations Marcus Ashcroft forecasted a relatively quiet trade period for the Gold Coast SUNS.

Ashcroft said the GC SUNS wouldn’t deviate from their list management strategy implemented during the clubs list build.

“The clubs priority will always be to ensure we are in a position to extend the playing contracts of our elite young talent.”

He also confirmed that the GC SUNS would look at securing the services of mature age players if the options were presented, however Ashcroft was adamant that it wouldn’t be at the risk of losing a young star in the future.

“We will look at mature age players, but it won’t be at the risk of losing one of our elite youngsters that we believe will play a major role in the direction of the club”

As far as I'm concerned, that pretty much nullifies all talk of Tippett coming to the Coast, at least this year. He'll be on far too much pay to manage.

Good that the club is looking after the list though, ensuring that we have enough finance to look after the young talent.

 

[Iva Bigun]

This is great news, to me it suggests that

• the core group of young talent will be staying at the club, so no one is seriously home sick at the moment
• Bluey was shopping the No4 pick to see who would bite in the hope of creating a bidding war.
• We are likely to get O'Meara or another elite talent with our No 4 pick

I'm excited

 

[exile]

Re: Josh Jenkins

Jenkins was an ex-NBL player, yeah? He's on Essendon's rookie list I think. Why would we be going after him? Hasn't exactly proven himself at senior level. Only played a few games in the NAB cup.

I doubt we'll be going after him. At least, I hope not.

 

[exile]

Re: From todays HS about O'Meara and Tippett

I swear the HS journos read bigfooty to write their articles. I remember a few people liked the idea of Tippett coming to GC earlier on after our season finished, but lately people have been leaning towards O'meara.

Having said that, I think Tippett would be perfect for Brisbane.

 

[Thermo]

Yes I considering how to merge some of these threads that are popping up. Good idea!

Also completely agree re: Tippett. Don't think we are chasing him right now.

edit: Was hoping that merge would leave Sunnys post at the top! I'm leaving the main Jaeger and Tippett threads alone, they are big enough to sustain their own threads.

 

[Sunny_]

Thanks Thermo. Looks much cleaner.

 

[CoastBhoy]

We could'nt be in for another ruckman , Jon Ralph must be having a shot in the dark with this

 

[Matchu]

If I were a Suns fan I wouldn't be so sure about Daniel Gorringe's future at the club after seeing this on Twitter from the new coach of the Adelaide Crows....

This was posted on his twitter on the 20th of September:

BSandersonAFC
First and biggest decision Tippo and what to do with him

Then this 1 day later.....

BSandersonAFC
Trade week will be a shock to some

Then this 9 days later.....

BSandersonAFC
@DGorringe
Interested in coming home champ? Have big plans for you if you do...

then this a day later....

BSandersonAFC
@DGorringe
DON'T reply to this tweet if you are interested in being traded to Adelaide

Of course there was no reply from Gorringe. Then this two days later.....

DGorringe
Just finished a good swimming sesh, good to be back on the coast #getmytanon

Followed by this reply from the coach of the Adelaide Crows:

BSandersonAFC
@DGorringe
How good would it be to be playing in front of your family friends for the club you supported as a child... just a question...

I could be looking into it too much but Daniel Gorringe has not posted anything on Twitter since that tweet. If GC were indeed looking to give Gorringe to the Crows in the Tippett deal then perhaps they really are chasing this Jenkins fella as a youthful ruckman replacement for Gorringe.

I am probably looking into it too much but doesn't anyone else think that is a little bit weird that the coach of Adelaide would do that? Also it was followed by no reply from Gorringe and surely the Suns would be aware of it. Who knows what the plan is but I still think it is a strange thing to write to someone he probably hasn't even met.

 

[Sunny_]

What a scandal!

But from what's been said from the club, we won't do Tippett. Not unless he's willing for a large pay-cut.

Also just had a look at that Twitter. Are you sure that's not fake? Some of the tweets there are very... er, unusual, from what I've heard of him. One in particular is:

'I was patient but jack is starting to piss me the f$&c off, who does this mommas boy think he is? You wanna play this game, roll that dice!'

So yeah. I call fake! Sorry Matchu.

 

[Matchu]

What a scandal!

But from what's been said from the club, we won't do Tippett. Not unless he's willing for a large pay-cut.

Also just had a look at that Twitter. Are you sure that's not fake? Some of the tweets there are very... er, unusual, from what I've heard of him. One in particular is:

'I was patient but jack is starting to piss me the f$&c off, who does this mommas boy think he is? You wanna play this game, roll that dice!'

So yeah. I call fake! Sorry Matchu.

Yeah I must admit some of the posts seem a bit odd but then again some of them seem like the kind you would get from an AFL coach also. I am hoping it is not fake because it would be a really great source if it turns out to be real. I still think Tippett is the best option for the GC Suns to move forward and push for finals in 2012.

 

[Sunny_]

Yeah I must admit some of the posts seem a bit odd but then again some of them seem like the kind you would get from an AFL coach also. I am hoping it is not fake because it would be a really great source if it turns out to be real. I still think Tippett is the best option for the GC Suns to move forward and push for finals in 2012.

Also, given the fact that no journalists whatsoever are running with his comments, I think it's safe to assume it's not the real Sando. Which sucks, because you're right. That would be neat if Coaches were that open about stuff.

The club has always been about developing and keeping the youthful talent that we have. Getting a guy like Tippett sort of undermines it I suppose, which is why I guess they're not chasing him anymore. Salary cap would be stretched to crazy amounts with a player of his coin on it too. So much so that it'd make it even harder to keep the talent.

Suns supporters are sort of divided on this issue. GCSuns for instance (the poster) is probably our biggest pro-Tippet, or at least pro-Exeprienced-Forward guy we have, and you can see where he's coming from. We'd be far, far more dangerous immediately with an experienced key forward in the lineup.

But I daresay most of us are of the opinion that we don't care if we come in the bottom 6 next year, so long as we're keeping our talent and getting games into them. In 2013, I'm expecting a push for the finals. Not so much in 2012.

At this stage, it seems that if Tippett is going north, it'd be to the Lions. They've already said officially a number of times that they will make an official play for him in trade week. But they might have to move heaven and earth to get him, with Adelaide deeming him a required contracted player.

 

[supernova_]

Yeah I must admit some of the posts seem a bit odd but then again some of them seem like the kind you would get from an AFL coach also. I am hoping it is not fake because it would be a really great source if it turns out to be real. I still think Tippett is the best option for the GC Suns to move forward and push for finals in 2012.

Find it very difficult to believe this is the official AFC coach after his rants on Twitter I checked out. Completely sounds like a total douchebag

Taylor Walker will be a coleman medalist, bernie vince a brownlow medalist, bunch of swearing and other rubbish...

 

[exile]

dear god hahahahaha. that is not sanderson's account. why would a coach approach a player over twitter? jesus.