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Ok, enough is enough... Raines IS
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Have Wally and Balls ever been seen in the same room at the same time?
Or Speedy and GTF?
Have Wally and Balls ever been seen in the same room at the same time?
They may have touched each other in their "special places".
Ask Robbie Powell
Like a Mini-Moke doing 360's going down a steep hill, throwing out one absolute nothing to nowhere handpass or kick after another kind of drive PHX?
Yee-hah.
One in five only vaguely constructive possessions (the other four being a total waste of him getting the footy) is not even remotely close to good enough for a small defender who is defensively deficient and shows zero signs of becoming a ball-winning midfielder. McMahon and Newman 'drive us forward' far better (though neither are genuinely brilliant at it), which is why they are comparitively closely marked, while every time Raines gets the ball the opposition will just give him all the room in the world and wait to pounce on the nothing play he invariably sets up.
He relies on other players to mop up the potential mess his lack of genuine pace or outright dumb decisions to take players on creates, while the bulk of his so-called 'good' possessions are sideways chips and handballs 95% of VFL players can do in their sleep - to teammates who grant him the easiest of options through their own hard running.
Nothing game again and he isn't going to be allowed many of them this season with the depth we're carrying compared to his previous games.
Like a Mini-Moke doing 360's going down a steep hill, throwing out one absolute nothing to nowhere handpass or kick after another kind of drive PHX?
Yee-hah.
One in five only vaguely constructive possessions (the other four being a total waste of him getting the footy) is not even remotely close to good enough for a small defender who is defensively deficient and shows zero signs of becoming a ball-winning midfielder. McMahon and Newman 'drive us forward' far better (though neither are genuinely brilliant at it), which is why they are comparitively closely marked, while every time Raines gets the ball the opposition will just give him all the room in the world and wait to pounce on the nothing play he invariably sets up.
He relies on other players to mop up the potential mess his lack of genuine pace or outright dumb decisions to take players on creates, while the bulk of his so-called 'good' possessions are sideways chips and handballs 95% of VFL players can do in their sleep - to teammates who grant him the easiest of options through their own hard running.
Nothing game again and he isn't going to be allowed many of them this season with the depth we're carrying compared to his previous games.
I'm in love with you tonight Rayzor... for the first time ever, we've negatively agreed on the Richmond Football Club.
Raines is a CABBAGE
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Like a Mini-Moke doing 360's going down a steep hill, throwing out one absolute nothing to nowhere handpass or kick after another kind of drive PHX?
Yee-hah.
One in five only vaguely constructive possessions (the other four being a total waste of him getting the footy) is not even remotely close to good enough for a small defender who is defensively deficient and shows zero signs of becoming a ball-winning midfielder. McMahon and Newman 'drive us forward' far better (though neither are genuinely brilliant at it), which is why they are comparitively closely marked, while every time Raines gets the ball the opposition will just give him all the room in the world and wait to pounce on the nothing play he invariably sets up.
He relies on other players to mop up the potential mess his lack of genuine pace or outright dumb decisions to take players on creates, while the bulk of his so-called 'good' possessions are sideways chips and handballs 95% of VFL players can do in their sleep - to teammates who grant him the easiest of options through their own hard running.
Nothing game again and he isn't going to be allowed many of them this season with the depth we're carrying compared to his previous games.
Lol, we on for round 2 already Rayzor?
You can't have many clangers when you're not doing anything with the ball but getting it in more than enough space to dispose quickly, but instead end up dishing off a nothing possession to someone else and transferring your own totally self-created pressure to them. His only other possessions are yawn-worthy chips and handballs to link-men on their own in 30m of space.
Schulz played Raines' role from this years' NAB games more than adequately last year, which pretty much sums up Raines' potential to ever graduate to the midfield or top-line HB roles, instead of utterly ballsing up the role a junior midfielder who uses the ball quickly (i.e. Cotchin/Tambling) should be playing.
What takes people on for 3 steps, realises that he's walked into a wal, backtracks 5 steps, trys to handball side ways, looks left, looks right, turns around, scratches his nuts, sniffs his armpits, pushes forward again... only to see:
1) all forwards in the backline
2) all midfielders r*ped by their opposition
3) Raines asking for a shovel
4) all backline players waiting for the pill to sail over their heads
5) the white maggots already have their whistle in their mouths before Rainsey has touched it. (its called pre-empting the inevitable)
Hehe...nailed it Wally.
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Might as well make our own sub-forum Rayzor where I can put shit on Jacko, you can put shit on Raines and the world outside is grand.
Juddy88
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Can anyone say scapegoat?
Played pretty well I thought.
Played pretty well I thought.
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SHIT!!!
(ok l'm under an alias), but for **** sake. How many times are we going to see him have a brain fade trying to work out what to do with the pill.
He is a NUFFY!!!!!!
Special mention to Richard Tambling who is not a footballers arse hole.
Sorry, a piss weak yellow card prevents me from saying what l really feel. If Richmond moderators ban this, your not Richmond.
All I can say is that you have no idea..... Have you even played a game of football in your life?? What a complete joke of a comment about a very good player.
Nothing wrong with Raines, I'm glad he is back.
If this was a Hislop thread then I'd agree....... this guy cant kick
Raines kicking >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hislop kicking
If this was a Hislop thread then I'd agree....... this guy cant kick
Raines kicking >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hislop kicking
Lol, we on for round 2 already Rayzor?
Hehe...nah mate, too busy this week.
Might as well make our own sub-forum Rayzor where I can put shit on Jacko, you can put shit on Raines and the world outside is grand.
Awww, that'd take all the fun away from the future...when eventually the majority of people in the main forum see the light and make the whole thing redundant.
I'm in love with you tonight Rayzor... for the first time ever, we've negatively agreed on the Richmond Football Club.
Raines is a CABBAGE
As you know, I'm rarely a player bagger Wally, but the frequent myopic outpourings of adoration for Raines' nothing games do annoy me. There's so many ugly similarities between his games and past ones from Johnson, Bowden, Campbell and all the other professional shufflers who played like the object of a match is not to win through fast, bold, aggressive ball movement, but to leave the ground having made as few mistakes as possible - by all-too-often quite deliberately doing absolutely nothing with the ball but shuffle it to nowhere.
I don't dislike Raines, quite admire several of his traits actually, but he's been going nowhere for quite some time now and I'm beyond convinced he doesn't have what it takes to hold down anything more than a depth spot well outside the best-22 in a top-4 side.
Juddy88
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Nicoski board.
I thought perhaps the Rowan Jones board?
I know what you're talking about with Raines (last post), but really at times Collingwood were pushing the majority of their players behind the ball. What else is he supposed to do? There is no point running at the forwards and kicking it forward immediately, as the numbers clearly favoured the Pies.
Just some observations from tonight.
I thought perhaps the Rowan Jones board?
I know what you're talking about with Raines (last post), but really at times Collingwood were pushing the majority of their players behind the ball. What else is he supposed to do? There is no point running at the forwards and kicking it forward immediately, as the numbers clearly favoured the Pies.
Just some observations from tonight.
A quality HB can either quickly sum up the best attacking option (which may well be a one or even two-on-one situation) and deliver to it with relatively consistent precision, OR quickly run, carry, and draw opponents to them, opening up better options in the process.
Raines is not and will never be a player capable of doing either. If he was a good shutdown small defender you'd forgive him the above and be grateful he had one genuinely positive attribute to offer. Sadly, he's not capable of that either.
sante
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Raines has locked himself in our side for Round 1 and will probably keep Jake King out of it.
Most Richmond supporters on here either have no idea about Football or follow the media's hype (good and bad) or over-react.
Most Richmond supporters on here either have no idea about Football or follow the media's hype (good and bad) or over-react.
That he did...in the first half at least...and I'm not usually a fan of his either.
This thread is excellent proof that alternative parallel universes do exist. The opinions expressed relate to notionally identical people and events but have diametrically opposed meaning. The question that arises is how is it possible that people who exist in such separate universes are connected by this forum?
For the record, I live in the Universe where Raines played a reasonably good game.
For the record, I live in the Universe where Raines played a reasonably good game.
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Sorry Rayzor, but I'm going to take you to task on this. Last week you raved on about Jacksons game because he had a good Supercoach score which proves that his ball usage was better than many suggested. Last night Raines had better scores than McMahon and I'm not sure about Newman. So how is it that Raines' efforts are unacceptable but Jacksons are considered fine?
Secondly according to the Prospectus, which is ran by Champion Data, the same people who do the Supercoach scoring they give the following definition of efficiency - The total effective statistics divided by the total statistics for said catergory.
Looking further into it they then give definitions for effective kicks and handballs.
Handball Effective - A handball to a teammate that hits the intended target.
Handball Ineffective - When a handball is not advantageous to the team but doesn't directly turn the ball over to the opposition.
Kick Clanger - When a player kicks directly to an opponent who either takes an uncontested mark or gains an uncontest possession.
Kick Ineffective - A kick less than 40m to a contest or a kick of more than 40m to a worse than 50-50 contest. The ball is in dispute and has not improved his teams chances.
Looking at all of that, I'm wondering just how you can claim that Raines possessions are nothing possessions? Surely if they are nothing possessions using the definitions provided above Raines' effeciency rating would be nowhere near as high as it is. It would appear that his possessions are in fact meaningful possessions that are to the advantage of the team and not just nothing possessions, which are doing nothing but putting his teammates under pressure, as you claim.
SHIT!!!
(ok l'm under an alias), but for **** sake. How many times are we going to see him have a brain fade trying to work out what to do with the pill.
He is a NUFFY!!!!!!
Special mention to Richard Tambling who is not a footballers arse hole.
Sorry, a piss weak yellow card prevents me from saying what l really feel. If Richmond moderators ban this, your not Richmond.
you have no idea.
Raines & Newman were your two best players last night!
If want to eat your own,slip into Dogged it Tambling,Jordan McTurnover & Oops which way next Polo!
If want to eat your own,slip into Dogged it Tambling,Jordan McTurnover & Oops which way next Polo!
Thats bullshit Sante. Christ, l'd love to see your starting 22 for round 1, your favourite players are the achilles heel of our club.
And your comment about supporters just following the media hype, you couldnt be more wrong. I'm watching the game as l type and they're in love with Raines game, although not acknowledging how many positive plays that Raines possessions have actually turned into.
You my friend, just keep investing in rubbish. Everyone is special in your mind and we continue to not deliver.
Who's right? The facts say l'm closer to the solution than you.
Suds_Mcduff
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Wally Matera on a yellow card? should we call you Balls of Steel?
