ONE Port Adelaide Football Club

[Natman]

"reserves team"

No chance of that happening but god I hope so. What I want to see is (like others have said) One club, one jumper, one logo

Number one will happen, but forget numbers two and three happening.

 

[PortBrillance]

numbers 2 and 3 better be happening

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Id like to see one logo and 2 jumpers personally.

 

[Power Raid]

I can see
- one club
- one gernsey; but
- two logo's

 

[PortBrillance]

I can see
- one club
- one gernsey; but
- two logo's

I'd take that, at least both teams have the same jumper then I'm all for it

 

[wapower]

I can see
- one club
- one gernsey; but
- two logo's

Alternatively we can piss off the teal & white and replace them with a tinge of silver and our prison bars problem is solved in both leagues and in both logos.

 

[Steve Dore]

Even interstate media is reporting the reunificaton is a done deal.

No journalist put their byline to that article.

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THE Port Adelaide AFL club is close to finalising an official amalgamation with its South Australian National Football League partner, Port Adelaide Magpies. ..... Under the proposed arrangement, the clubs will share office and social club facilities and offer joint AFL-SANFL club membership ....

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When is an amalgamation not an amalgamation? When the result is still two entities, in this case two clubs.

To my way of thinking two clubs sharing facilities is very much different to an amalgamation or merger into ONE Port Adelaide Football Club.

 

[*PAF]

N o journalist put their byline to that article.

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THE Port Adelaide AFL club is close to finalising an official amalgamation with its South Australian National Football League partner, Port Adelaide Magpies. ..... Under the proposed arrangement, the clubs will share office and social club facilities and offer joint AFL-SANFL club membership ....

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When is an amalgamation not an amalgamation? When the result is still two entities, in this case two clubs.

To my way of thinking two clubs sharing facilities is very much different to an amalgamation or merger into ONE Port Adelaide Football Club.

I have never understood why both Crows and Port supporters never had a chance of getting joint AFL/SANFL memberships with the SANFL club of their choice.

 

[Portia]

administration hassle. means the afl club needs to update the sanfl membership rosters and vice versa.

 

[Shaxx Attaxx]

Alternatively we can piss off the teal & white and replace them with a tinge of silver and our prison bars problem is solved in both leagues and in both logos.

Not a silly idea. Oakland Raiders style. Lets hope we play better than them though.

 

[Peck]

I didn't watch the magpies all that much growing up. I supported them, but I didn't really like footy.

I wouldn't feel any loss if the magpies disappeared, along with the PBs etc.

I'd say this is exactly the same for anyone around my age or younger, and for all the supporters that will be deciding on which team to support from this point onwards (unless they have parents that show them videos etc).

I don't particularly care if the PAMFC survives, or they go under, or they join us. Except for the fact that it will benifit us if they merge.

Hence, I would argue that we should get rid of the prison bars, and the magpie, I don't know whether we will make them wear the BiB, or some other jumper, and really it doesn't matter. As long as the only people saying that the PAFC aren't the real Port Adelaide have to try and argue that the real port adelaide was forced to wear a new jumper and become a reserves side for the fake AFL port adelaide.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

It seems like after being knocked back originally Haysman and co have kept plugging away. I remember Mark was clearly very disappointed about the earlier knock back when he spoke at the members info night earlier this year and commented they'd look for an opportunity down the track to revisit the issue.

Just on the one jumper thing, if people think it will be a Magpies jumper they are kidding themselves.

Personally I'd be OK with the back in black jumper in the AFL and the reserves playing in a Magpies strip in the SANFL. Would be the closest we will come to retaining that heritage.

It would be terrific down the track having all our players in the one club. Will give us the opportunity to have all being played in positions that advance their development in a way that suits our future plans for them

 

[PortBrillance]

Was reported on 9 that the SANFL will rubber stamp the merge, but the jumpers and nicknames will stay the same. Also they wont become out reserve side.

So I ask, what is in it for the PAFC? On the surface, doesnt look like a lot.

 

[Spadge]

Was reported on 9 that the SANFL will rubber stamp the merge, but the jumpers and nicknames will stay the same. Also they wont become out reserve side.

So I ask, what is in it for the PAFC? On the surface, doesnt look like a lot.

not having to complete against the magpies for members, sponsors, supporters, everything

the magpies will once again be Port Adelaide Football Club again... our club...the AFL PAFC and the SANFL PAMFC one club
and once and for all do away with the arguement of who the real port is

 

[Forzaport]

I wouldn't worry too much about the Magpies not being our reserves side. Nothing of the sort will be allowed to happen until the Camries get their own reserves side and it becomes a 10 team competition.

 

[Spadge]

I wouldn't worry too much about the Magpies not being our reserves side. Nothing of the sort will be allowed to happen until the Camries get their own reserves side and it becomes a 10 team competition.

and i think that should happen ASAP

i think it was Malthouse during this season that mentioned that having a reserves team in the VFL gave them a huge advantage over those in the AFL that dont. Thats a key point. The victorian teams are able to look after their own players in their reserves team. Have them all play together and in the positions they want to

Currently we are at the mercy of the SANFL clubs.

Cases in point:
1) Banner playing AFL one week then SANFL reserves next week
2) Surjan being moved from centrals where he couldnt get a league game to the magpies who started to fire and soon cracked AFL
3) Giles getting nearly no opportunity at centrals in their league team. We delist him and he moves to Sturt and becomes the best ruckman in the comp (would we have delisted him if he was playing in Ports reserves team??)
4) Lobbe being moved from the maggies who once again couldnt get a run, to Westies where he started to shine

thats just 4 off the top of my head but there are many more cases like this. Having control of our own players would bring us in line with the vics who can already do that

 

[The Floodbuster]

I wouldn't worry too much about the Magpies not being our reserves side. Nothing of the sort will be allowed to happen until the Camries get their own reserves side and it becomes a 10 team competition.

The Camries won't have a say in it. If the SANFL had it their way it wouldn't be going through.

 

[One PAFC]

Can't wait for the official announcement of the club re-unification.

 

[Portology]

and i think that should happen ASAP

i think it was Malthouse during this season that mentioned that having a reserves team in the VFL gave them a huge advantage over those in the AFL that dont. Thats a key point. The victorian teams are able to look after their own players in their reserves team. Have them all play together and in the positions they want to

Currently we are at the mercy of the SANFL clubs.

Cases in point:
1) Banner playing AFL one week then SANFL reserves next week
2) Surjan being moved from centrals where he couldnt get a league game to the magpies who started to fire and soon cracked AFL
3) Giles getting nearly no opportunity at centrals in their league team. We delist him and he moves to Sturt and becomes the best ruckman in the comp (would we have delisted him if he was playing in Ports reserves team??)
4) Lobbe being moved from the maggies who once again couldnt get a run, to Westies where he started to shine

thats just 4 off the top of my head but there are many more cases like this. Having control of our own players would bring us in line with the vics who can already do that

totally agree with those, the Salter saga also. but it has been mentioned on here (no source though) that the Magpies don't become our reserves. so none of these get fixed.

on another thread REH mentioned the differing holding the ball/holding the man interpretations between SANFL and AFL. that little impediment to player development isn't going to be fixed by this move either.

like to see a "what's in it for PAFC" financial document.

 

[edgie]

I dunno if its been mentioned, but having one club, 2 teams, I was thinking, that with 22, maybe 25 with emergencies, playing AFL every week, that doesn't leave enough for a second team.

Or if it does, then the reserves side would pretty much be all younger players as most of the non regular team members are at AFL clubs.

I can't see that working out.

 

[Forzaport]

The reserves side doesn't need to contain solely AFL listed players.

Not something to worry about anyway. Wait until there's movement on the Crows forming a reserve side, then we'll see how things will be structured.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

If you look at the Geelong reserves side they have about 8 players who are signed to play for Geelong reserves and aren't part of the AFL salary cap and if they still can't get enough numbers they call on players from the Geelong area leagues. I don't have any info how those arrangements work.

So if Port becomes one footy club again then we would have magpies + power players in the SANFL side. Some weeks there might only be 3 to 5 power players, when the injury list is stretched out and some fringe players have poor form.

The crows could have say 8 players signed just for their reserves side ie ex players like Torney, Massie eg guys delisted but who still wanted to play footy. They would have say 8 guys from amateur league clubs who are called up when they have lots of injuries, and maybe 8 kids from the u/18 state squad who aren't going to play for the SANFL clubs because they are tied to school footy but they are given the opportunity to train with and learn from an AFL club. They might be the top draft prospects.

 

[Heyzeus]

Does anyone know what the process is for getting the reunification happening this time around?

Has anything changed from last time when it went to a vote from the sanfl clubs? It just seems like there is a lot more confidence in a favourable result this time around so I was wondering if the circumstances were different. If not what will make clubs like norwood, north, glenelg change their vote?

 

[Cyrus the Virus]

Does anyone know what the process is for getting the reunification happening this time around?

Has anything changed from last time when it went to a vote from the sanfl clubs? It just seems like there is a lot more confidence in a favourable result this time around so I was wondering if the circumstances were different. If not what will make clubs like norwood, north, glenelg change their vote?

We have AFL backing.

 

[Heyzeus]

AFL backing.

What does that entail? Financial incentives? Threats?