Oppo Camp OTHER CLUB Trade and F/A Discussion

[swoop42]

To be honest it probably suits us more if Grundy remains at Melbourne if we have to continue to pay part of his wage elsewhere.

They're stuck with a player they wont select unless Gawn is injured and have to fork out $650,000 a season for him to play VFL.

 

[sr36]

It will be. Only Question is... Will it be paid partly by Collingwood or Melbourne? Most likely we cough up.

Plus if remaining a VFL player becomes probable - Grundy may be willing to take a haircut.

 

[sr36]

To be honest it probably suits us more if Grundy remains at Melbourne if we have to continue to pay part of his wage elsewhere.

They're stuck with a player they wont select unless Gawn is injured and have to fork out $650,000 a season for him to play VFL.

And another contender doesn't upgrade their ruckman.

 

[Bianconeri]

Can try to argue about contract semantics but at the end of the day there will be no benefit to collingwood. If pies get off the books with the Grundy trade, the trade simply won't happen and nor will any other club be interested, he'll stay at Melbourne and you will be paying out the contract anyway. Only one it screws is Grundy, again. Pies decided to cut their losses and accept that they'd be paying 350 a year for the next 4. makes no difference where he's playing.

If Grundy wants to move and Melbourne want to get rid of him and Sydney want him it’s up to those parties to make it happen. As you say it makes no difference to Collingwood whether Grundy plays for Melbourne or Sydney so unless we get something out of it I’d see no reason to keep paying I see no reason to give in.

 

[Mollythedolly]

If Grundy wants to move and Melbourne want to get rid of him and Sydney want him it’s up to those parties to make it happen. As you say it makes no difference to Collingwood whether Grundy plays for Melbourne or Sydney so unless we get something out of it I’d see no reason to keep paying I see no reason to give in.

While I agree with the sentiment, posted much the same myself, I think the club will ultimately do the right thing by Grundy. Seeking to get the best outcome for ourselves while doing that though is just good business. As is doing the right thing by Grundy.

 

[No SPIN]

If Grundy's contract isn't paid partly by another club I think the Grundy to Sydney deal will not go though.

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You’d be stupid to pass on Grundy due to money and or draft picks - given all the false starts you’ve had with Ruckmen in recent years.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Whilst not a player trade of ours, it is of note with regard to our salary cap … shows the club is looking out for its own interests. A question worth asking, that’s for sure.


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Author of that article clearly doesn’t have a great understanding of what lawyers do.

 

[76woodenspooners]

If Grundy's contract isn't paid partly by another club I think the Grundy to Sydney deal will not go though.

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You can be assured that it will be partly paid by another club(s). It just needs to be resolved whether that other club is Collingwood and / or Melbourne.

 

[KinderSmock]

Sheehan and Edmund were talking about the Dees being up to something very big this offseason.
The Lynch move might not be as far fetched as people think. He's exactly what the Dees want, they have the cap for him when Grundy goes and they have the draft picks to get a deal done.
From Richmond's point of view, they are in rebuild mode now. Cashing in Lynch for high end draft capital would have it's appeal.
For Lynch, a chance to jump over to a team in the hunt for a flag.

The AFL trade period will not be as boring as some paint it out. The AFL wants there to be excitement and surprise. It's not an entertainment period. It can't undersell. It can't fall out of the news cycle. It has to be interesting.

Richmond will trade away big names and start their rebuild, the AFL loving that next year they'll be in the bottom four having had their dynasty earlier.

Taranto looks silly for turning down Collingwood if he wanted to leave GWS given Richmond aren't looking to compete any time soon.

 

[KinderSmock]

You can be assured that it will be partly paid by another club(s). It just needs to be resolved whether that other club is Collingwood and / or Melbourne.

Grundy won't lose money unless he chooses to (and we know he and his agent won't let that happen). The grey space exists because this is very rare territory.

Now, if only Treloar to Gold Coast could take place and rinse ourselves of that deal if it hasn't been paid off (I'm never sure if we have/haven't. Last I read it was the latter).

 

[Pacman Carney]

Once again, not the way it works. Clubs don’t have contracts directly with opposition players.
Collingwood may well be paying his salary still if on traded. But the deal is not directly with Grundy.

"It is true that Collingwood will ask the AFL if they have to continue to pay (part of Brodie Grundy's contract if traded), and the answer back to Collingwood will be, yes you do. You made a deal with Brodie Grundy, not the club."

- Tom Morris

 

[Apex36]

"It is true that Collingwood will ask the AFL if they have to continue to pay (part of Brodie Grundy's contract if traded), and the answer back to Collingwood will be, yes you do. You made a deal with Brodie Grundy, not the club."

- Tom Morris

The opinion of Tom Morris, and make no mistake, it’s his opinion, means little in the grand scheme of things. I doubt Collingwood would even be asking the question if their contract was directly with Grundy.

 

[Jafo]

Possibly Grundy, Joel Hamling

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and Oliver to Swans?

Interesting if that happens.

 

[Pistol Night]

Possibly Grundy, Joel Hamling and Oliver to Swans?

Interesting if that happens.

Fixes a few glaring holes for them. Smart recruiting

 

[Chrispiesssss]

 

[KinderSmock]

Look at this. The AFL is absolutely licking their lips at all the big fish wanting to move. Slow start but the trade period will not be dull.

Oliver, Sniff ... oddball for Ginni - something about drugs in that list.

Cotton On have issues with this. Geelong to offer their first and another

 

[Exambolor]

For some KPF depth Brodie McLaughlin could be a cheap piece as hes delisted from the Suns, leading VFL goalkicker this season

 

[Jafo]

Astro with an 8yr deal. That’s Astronomical.

 

[manicpie]

Fixes a few glaring holes for them. Smart recruiting

Grundy will fix those holes by tapping the ball into them

 

[Jafo]

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

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Imagine being in your mid 20's & needing to be babysat by the captain...

 

[sideswipe]

Imagine being in your mid 20's & needing to be babysat by the captain...

Mrs Gawn must be a saint. I am getting scared even imagining Mrs Side's reaction if I told her a 26yo ranga party boy was moving in.

Lippa would get a tick.

 

[SchuPie]

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But Melb want 7 first rounders bc he is so valuable

 

[Jafo]

Imagine being in your mid 20's & needing to be babysat by the captain...

Sure we’ve had some players the club has considered this in the past couple of decades. Plus Allegedly Two of which might have just become Premiership players over the weekend.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Sure we’ve had some players the club has considered this in the past couple of decades. Plus Allegedly Two of which might have just become Premiership players over the weekend.

Who? Which players aged 25-26 have had to live with the captain to monitor their behaviour?