Our Team For Round 1 2012

[humbird]

Assuming Buchanan, Clarke and Clark won't be playing.

B: McGrath Merrett McKeever
HB: Drummond Patfull Adcock
C: Hanley Black Rockliff
HF: Banfield Staker Polkinghorne
F: Polec Brown Karnezis
R: Leuenberger Redden Rich
B: Stiller Raines Harwood Lester (SUB)
Emg: Cornelius Bartlett MacCauley

The rest in rough order of preference:
Maguire
Golby
Beams
O'Brien
Green
Bewick
Retzlaff
Sheldon
Hawksley
Collier
Austin

Not sure about McKeever but with Clark gone the team needs a second ruck. Hopefully McKeever can play on a resting ruckman.

Lester adds versatility.

Polec can play half forward and then go onto the ball.

Hanley needs to play up to field more with McGrath adding run from the backline.

Polkinghorne needs to be able to provide at least a 3 quarter effort more often or Bartlett get his spot. I'm still not sure about Polks and it wouldn't surprise me if he gets pushed out by all the high draft picks the Lions will get over the next couple of years.

A KP, a small and a ruck as the emergencies for cover. The backline reverts to how it functioned in '09 with Merrett taking the full forward and Patfull the CHF.

Harwood with another pre-season gets more full games to learn from Simon Black.

Brown plays from the goal square, Staker leads to the wings and Karnezis floats around the 40-60 mark. Banfield keeps crumbing and the other two rotate through the midfield.

Completely agree with you on this. Doesn't do enough in my opinion. Not to say there are a couple of others that don't do enough either. I think he'll get pushed out by the higher draft picks over the last couple of years too.

Harsh, but true. I wonder if he could possibly become trade bait for us in the future if this was the case?

 

[shayno]

B: Hanley Merrett McKeever
HB: Drummond Clark Adcock
C: Polec Black Rockliff
HF: McGrath Retzlaff Polkinghorne
F: Banfield Brown Karnezis
R: Leuenberger Redden Rich
B: O'Brien Raines Harwood Lester
Emg: Cornelius Bartlett MacCauley Beams

I think if Clark stays he should be convinced to play CHB, great at third man up and has the ability to run off his opponent, also much better at reacting to the play than making it. Of course also needs to find some passion for the jumper. If he leaves Patfull probably slots straight back in.

Polec and Polkinghorne would both be under pressure from Beams and Bartlett and hopefully a few young guns picked up in the Draft.

I would like Retzlaff have a descent run next year, especially with Brown, McGrath, Banfield and Karnezis up forward we should have some goal scoring firepower so Retzlaff could take some time to find his feet.

I think if Luey, Rockliff and Redden all continue with the great strides they made this year, if Brown, Merrett, Drummond and Adcock can stay injury free, and if a few player can take the next step, particularly Rich, Polkinghorne, Hanley and Banfield and if Blacky and Browny can maintain their high standard, and if the competition for the last few spots in the team is high then I think we could really climb the ladder quite quickly.
I know thats a lot of ifs but other teams have certainly done it, no reason the mighty Lions can't.

 

[kylegee28]

Just my opinion, but;

B: Adcock - Merrett - Drummond
HB: Hanley - Mckeever - Stiller
C: Rockliff - Black - Rich
HF: Karnezis - Clark - Mcgrath
F: Banfield - Brown - Buchanan
R: Leuenberger - Redden - Raines
IC: Golby, Harwood, Patfull, Polkinghorne (Sub)

If Clark does leave, then bring in Acorn or Retzlaff.

Play our most experienced team, including a few young fellas who earned, and held their spot in our best 22.

Make the younger fella's earn their spot. However, If a player isn't performing in our 1's and a player is performing consistently in 2's, there should be no hesitation to play them.

 

[cotter101]

Just my opinion, but;

B: Adcock - Merrett - Drummond
HB: Hanley - Mckeever - Stiller
C: Rockliff - Black - Rich
HF: Karnezis - Clark - Mcgrath
F: Banfield - Brown - Buchanan
R: Leuenberger - Redden - Raines
IC: Golby, Harwood, Patfull, Polkinghorne (Sub)

If Clark does leave, then bring in Acorn or Retzlaff.

Play our most experienced team, including a few young fellas who earned, and held their spot in our best 22.

Make the younger fella's earn their spot. However, If a player isn't performing in our 1's and a player is performing consistently in 2's, there should be no hesitation to play them.

I respect your opinion but our team is not ready to seriously challenge for a finals spot yet, therefore I think playing the younger kids is a must.

 

[cotter101]

B: Adcock Merret Lester
HB: Drummond McKeever Hanley

C: Rich Black Redden

HF: Karnezis Clark Rockliff
F: Banfield Brown McGrath

Bench: Cornelius Polec Beams (Sub= Barlett, Bewick or Polkinghorne

Foll: Leuenberger Raines Polec

Now I am assuming Clark will stay.
It is a real shame Staker will miss 2012 because I had him at CHF.

I am struggling to find room for Polkinghorne.

 

[charles202]

My two cents worth, which is worth even less than that

B: Golby Merrett Patfull
HB: Drummond McKeever Adcock
C: Hanley Rockliff Raines
HF: Rich Brown Karnezis
F: Banfield Cornelious McGrath
R: Leuenberger Redden Black
B: Polka, Polec, Bartlett
S: O'Brien

Whilst it hasn't been Patfull's best year, I think that he will be important next year as a third defender in helping out McKeever and also filling in at CHB when McKeever spells Leuy in the ruck.

Harwood an unlucky exclusion however i think that we need more outside runners next year and I have high hopes for both Polec and Bartlett.

Raines for me still makes the team as a tagger, playing on the oppositions best outside mid. Strict instructions may have to be given in relation to handballing only.

 

[jackess]

Assuming Buchanan, Clarke and Clark won't be playing.

B: McGrath Merrett McKeever
HB: Drummond Patfull Adcock
C: Hanley Black Rockliff
HF: Banfield Cornelius Polkinghorne
F: Polec Brown Karnezis
R: Leuenberger Redden Rich
B: Stiller Raines Harwood Lester (SUB)
Emg: Retzlaff Bartlett McCauley

With Staker out I think ACorn and Retzlaff will both get games. Neither will probably play the whole season but will hopefully string a few decent games together.

 

[Bucking Beads]

With Staker out I think ACorn and Retzlaff will both get games. Neither will probably play the whole season but will hopefully string a few decent games together.

Are you talking about in the same side??

 

[jackess]

Are you talking about in the same side??

Depends on injuries. But similar to this year neither will really cement their spot.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Depends on injuries. But similar to this year neither will really cement their spot.

I can't see them both playing very often if browny is fit especially with patty k in the forward line. Looking forward to seeing our tall forwards develop.

 

[Last of the Roys]

Given Staker is now out, (and assuming Clark goes) my new line up is:

B: Adcock Merrett McKeever
HB: Drummond Patfull Hanley
C: Redden Polkinghorne Rich
HF: Polec Brown Karnezis
F: McGrath Cornelius Banfield
R: Leuenberger Black Rockliff
I: Raines, Sheldon, Beams, Hawksley (Sub)
Emg: Stiller, O'Brien, Green

I have brought in ACorn for Staker and shifted Karnezis to the half forward line. We also need someone in the team to be a back-up to Leuey in the ruck, so McKeever now probably needs to do that, which would force Stiller out of my side.

If Clark stays then I agree that it would be good to try him at Centre Half Back, probably in place of McKeever (or Patfull).

 

[counterparts24]

Given Staker is now out, (and assuming Clark goes) my new line up is:

B: Adcock Merrett McKeever
HB: Drummond Patfull Hanley
C: Redden Polkinghorne Rich
HF: Polec Brown Karnezis
F: McGrath Cornelius Banfield
R: Leuenberger Black Rockliff
I: Raines, Sheldon, Beams, Hawksley (Sub)
Emg: Stiller, O'Brien, Green

I have brought in ACorn for Staker and shifted Karnezis to the half forward line. We also need someone in the team to be a back-up to Leuey in the ruck, so McKeever now probably needs to do that, which would force Stiller out of my side.

If Clark stays then I agree that it would be good to try him at Centre Half Back, probably in place of McKeever (or Patfull).

I think you've nailed it, only change I would consider is including Lester for one of maybe Hawksley, Beams but equally as happy to leave it as is. Also would consider bringing in MacCauley.

 

[Tetris]

Bumpety bump...
Thought I might throw my thoughts up with Lisle an almost definite Lion, and Clark and Power gone. BTW, I don't think we'll b e getting Tippett.

B: ----Adcock-----Merrett----Hanley---
HB: --Drummond--McKeever--Bartlett---
C: ----Redden-----Rockliff-----Rich-----
HF: ----Polec-------Lisle-----Banfield---
F: ----McGrath-----Brown----Karnezis---

R: Leuenberger, Black, Harwood


I: Polks, Sheldon, Raines, O'Brien (Sub)

Emg: Patful, Cornelius, Beams


Off the top of my head, so I've probably missed someone. Can see Green and Lester getting more games this year, but I don't think they'll make the round 1 squad. And Patful will probably make it, but I couldn't fit him in mine.

 

[POBT]

That's a short defence Tetris, particularly when McKeever will be required in the ruck. I think Patfull/Lester/Lisle would be required down back for some height.

 

[Dom PC]

B: Adcock Merrett Patful
HB: Drummond Lisle Hanley
C: Redden Harwood Rich
HF: Polkinghorne Brown Karnezis
F: McGrath Cornelius Banfield
R: Leuenberger Black Rockliff
I: Raines, Bartlett, Lester, Polec(Sub)
Emg: Stiller, McKeever, Sheldon

 

[Tetris]

That's a short defence Tetris, particularly when McKeever will be required in the ruck. I think Patfull/Lester/Lisle would be required down back for some height.

Yeah, I had Patful at back pocket, but remembered his fairly uninspiring performances this year... Maybe move Hanley to a flank, Bartlett to the bench and Lester to back pocket?

B: ----Adcock-----Merrett----Lester---
HB: --Drummond--McKeever--Hanley---

 

[cotter101]

Updated:

B: Adcock Merret Lester
HB: Drummond Lisle Hanley

C: Polec Black Rich

HF: Karnezis Cornelius Barlett
F: Banfield Brown McGrath

Foll: Leunenberger Rockliff Redden

Int: Polkinghorne Raines Beams, sub= Patful

 

[Dylan12]

Updated:

B: Adcock Merret Lester
HB: Drummond Lisle Hanley

C: Polec Black Rich

HF: Karnezis Cornelius Barlett
F: Banfield Brown McGrath

Foll: Leunenberger Rockliff Redden

Int: Polkinghorne Raines Beams, sub= Patful

Are you serious? Lisle makes the side at Patfull's expense?

Have you see Lisle play and you reckon Maguire is slow...he couldn't even break into Hawthorn's defence when they were screaming out for key position defenders, let alone the Hawks forward line when Roughead was out for most of the season. Patfull is 10 times the player of Lisle.

 

[Milk Steak]

Are you serious? Lisle makes the side at Patfull's expense?

Have you see Lisle play and you reckon Maguire is slow...he couldn't even break into Hawthorn's defence when they were screaming out for key position defenders, let alone the Hawks forward line when Roughead was out for most of the season. Patfull is 10 times the player of Lisle.

Lets not get carried away with "abilities" of Patfull. We haven't seen great footy for 2 years from Joel. I thought cotters side was pretty much what I'd like to see,except I don't see how patfull could be sub. He either starts in defence or doesn't play

 

[LionMen]

I reckon Retzlaff showed more than Cornelius this year so should be at CHF.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Brown will be at CHF

 

[Dylan12]

Lets not get carried away with "abilities" of Patfull.

Well let's not get carried with the "abilities" of Lisle either then...he has played 5 games, not shown a lot and now people are selecting him ahead of 100+ game players like Patfull, not to mention Tetris' side having him in ahead of Cornelius and Retzlaff, where's the perspective there?

 

[Milk Steak]

I reckon Retzlaff showed more than Cornelius this year so should be at CHF.

Say whaaaaaaat

 

[LionMen]

Say whaaaaaaat

We need to play our guys with tats, its what led collingwood to a premiership

 

[Milk Steak]

We need our guys with tats, its what lead collingwood to a premiership

I'll admit that the 2 possessions I saw Retzlaff get were pretty impressive and warranting of selection.