Pass mark for Brisbane, Melbourne, Carlton and St Kilda in 2016?

[Trav 20]

Beating Footscray was the anomaly not the loss to Carlton. Dees lost by nearly 100 points second time around against the Dogs.

Geelong and Collingwood didn't make finals and Richmond is well Richmond. In doing all that Melbourne still only managed 7 wins. Nothing to get too excited about especially given the losses to teams of similar standing in St Kilda (twice), Carlton and Esssendon .

No, you are wrong.

Beating Footscray in round 8 was more telling than losing to them in round 20 when our season was shot.

Also, 7 wins was fine. Twenty months earlier Roos had taken over a 2 win/54% team and set about going back to basics and clearing out half the list.

Expect more improvement in 2016. And wait until you get a load of Hogan.

 

[Blackas87]

Beating Footscray was the anomaly not the loss to Carlton. Dees lost by nearly 100 points second time around against the Dogs.

Geelong and Collingwood didn't make finals and Richmond is well Richmond. In doing all that Melbourne still only managed 7 wins. Nothing to get too excited about especially given the losses to teams of similar standing in St Kilda (twice), Carlton and Esssendon .

You can't just dismiss wins by saying "Richmond is well Richmond", thats just stupid. Richmond and the dogs were top 8 teams and Collingwood and Geelong were teams fighting for the 8, they are good wins coming from a club that was so far back a few seasons ago.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Carlton- I don't think there's much expectation on them except to just get games into the inexperienced players. I think 4 wins would be the minimum pass mark. But everybody can see where the club is in their development and there wouldn't be much pressure on them even if they don't achieve that

Brisbane- They have lost a lot of players over the years and their coach is out of contract at the end of this year. They are under pressure to at least see some improvement and hope for the future. They have a young list but are at the stage where you expect them to rise up the ladder. I would say about 7 wins would be a pass mark.

Saints- They have done well developing their players and were very competitive for a lot of games last year. I expect them to be be inconsistent this year. Looking strong one week but weak the next. I would say the pass mark will be 7 wins.

Melbourne- Their struggle over the last decade is well known. I think their improvement is a slow burn and they are finally ready to say good bye to the bottom 4 for quite a awhile. Their players are now mature enough to win comfortably against bottom 4 sides and win close to half the games against the mid range teams. Even the top teams would get are rude awakening if they underestimate them. I think the pass mark for Melbourne would be 9 wins.

 

[Frank Grimes]

"Richmond is well Richmond", thats just stupid. Richmond and the dogs were top 8 teams and Collingwood and Geelong were teams fighting for the 8, they are good wins coming from a club that was so far back a few seasons ago.

I hate to say it, but Richmond is well, Richmond. The club has made it an art form to build up our supporters hopes and expectations and then let us down in the most disastrous ways. An example of that would have been the first 5-6 rounds of last season after expecting to have a strong start to the year. We were struggling to beat any half decent side at that time.

 

[Blackas87]

I hate to say it, but Richmond is well, Richmond. The club has made it an art form to build up our supporters hopes and expectations and then let us down in the most disastrous ways. An example of that would have been the first 5-6 rounds of last season after expecting to have a strong start to the year. We were struggling to beat any half decent side at that time.

Half decent like Melbourne? Richmond were 5th on the ladder with a percentage of 136% heading into our clash coming off a 79 point win. Fair to say Richmond were beaten on the day by the teams they played against in those rounds and not because Richmond is Richmond.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Half decent like Melbourne? Richmond were 5th on the ladder with a percentage of 136% heading into our clash coming off a 79 point win. Fair to say Richmond were beaten on the day by the teams they played against in those rounds and not because Richmond is Richmond.

We played Melbourne in Rd 4. At that time of year it is easy to be in the top 8 if you have a kind draw. The simple fact is that we were 2-4 after round 6. Our only wins was against Carlton and Brisbane at that time.

 

[Blackas87]

We played Melbourne in Rd 4. At that time of year it is easy to be in the top 8 if you have a kind draw. The simple fact is that we were 2-4 after round 6. Our only wins was against Carlton and Brisbane at that time.

So basically saying Richmond are that good but we failed early in the season and we give our opponents no credit?

 

[Roylion]

I think the Lions would like a few wins just to keep the media pressure off. Slobbo and co will be gunning for Leppa come round 10 if they haven't won a game.

A one year contract extension for Leppitsch should see the media pressure valve released a little.

 

[coryne]

Funny from a Carlton supporter given how invested your club was in getting Boyd.

Your post has zero basis apart from potting Boyd because he stood your club up

I would say that the MULTI MILLION DOLLAR contract would have a lot to do with it .....

 

[Love the Drake]

Huh. I have you finishing below all teams.

Yup, i can see where you get your confidence; young recruits gwilt, Cooney, stokes, Jamar ready to tear the competition apart

Carlton will improve; not sure how many wins that translates to.

May come down to how we go against your mob..

 

[ManOfClay]

I would say that the MULTI MILLION DOLLAR contract would have a lot to do with it .....

But he wanted to play for Carlton at all costs...

 

[schmuttt]

It is interesting that the Saints and Dees supporters are so confident of doing better than Carlton this season given they both failed to beat Carlton last season. Cripps was pretty much able to beat both sides on his own.

This 'we beat you so we'll be better than you' logic is beyond ridiculous, yet it still crops up on Bigfooty. I don't see Melbourne supporters going around telling Geelong we'll finish above them just because we beat them. Both Melbourne and St.Kilda will finish well above Carlton, if you can't see that you are set for another bottom 2 finish with the scorched earth policy you don't understand football.

 

[coryne]

But he wanted to play for Carlton at all costs...

Until the Bulldogs made "an offer you couldn't refuse".


Seriously what 2nd yr player has EVER been given a MULTI MILLION DOLLAR contract. What part of his 8 goals in 9 games justified being paid over $1 million/year ??? No wonder there were rumours that the Bulldogs wanted to offload him during the latest trade period, that contract will haunt the Bulldogs once your young midfield stars start seeing $$$ signs as they hit peak form.

 

[LeppaMessiah]

Until the Bulldogs made "an offer you couldn't refuse".


Seriously what 2nd yr player has EVER been given a MULTI MILLION DOLLAR contract. What part of his 8 goals in 9 games justified being paid over $1 million/year ??? No wonder there were rumours that the Bulldogs wanted to offload him during the latest trade period, that contract will haunt the Bulldogs once your young midfield stars start seeing $$$ signs as they hit peak form.

Any link whatsoever backing your claim that the Bulldogs were trying to offload him last trade period? Apart from 'my girlfriends uncles dogs groomers nail clipper salesman'?

 

[ManOfClay]

Any link whatsoever backing your claim that the Bulldogs were trying to offload him last trade period? Apart from 'my girlfriends uncles dogs groomers nail clipper salesman'?

You'd think any rumour the dogs were looking to offload a player on a multi million dollar deal a year into his contract off to his third club in three years would have made a couple of headlines.


Sounds like another delusional blue bitter that Boyd stood Carlton up.

And lol at the Boyd contract will cost us our gun young players. They all love the club and have signed long-term deals.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Until the Bulldogs made "an offer you couldn't refuse".


Seriously what 2nd yr player has EVER been given a MULTI MILLION DOLLAR contract. What part of his 8 goals in 9 games justified being paid over $1 million/year ??? No wonder there were rumours that the Bulldogs wanted to offload him during the latest trade period, that contract will haunt the Bulldogs once your young midfield stars start seeing $$$ signs as they hit peak form.

Tom $cully

 

[autocol]

Tom $cully

I'm not certain that Boyd will end up being any more successful than Scully, either.

That said, in almost every other respect the Bulldogs have an incredibly exciting list.

 

[blueinvasion]

You'd think any rumour the dogs were looking to offload a player on a multi million dollar deal a year into his contract off to his third club in three years would have made a couple of headlines.


Sounds like another delusional blue bitter that Boyd stood Carlton up.

And lol at the Boyd contract will cost us our gun young players. They all love the club and have signed long-term deals.

Liam Jones didn't want to hang around! He could see the direction of the dogs and jumped ship to a better future!

 

[Simbatheking21]

Liam Jones didn't want to hang around! He could see the direction of the dogs and jumped ship to a better future!

Great point there mate. Don't forgot Jason tutt

 

[ManOfClay]

Liam Jones didn't want to hang around! He could see the direction of the dogs and jumped ship to a better future!

Too right.

 

[Trav 20]

Gawn ARGUABLY the most exciting young ruck?? Riiiiight

How do you think Gawn is going ?

 

[Milux]

How do you think Gawn is going ?

this guy can play. Who woulda thought.