-
AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Coaching Staff Past Coach: Matthew Knights - Finally gets his second shot - 5/5
- Thread starter Merv
- Start date
- Tagged users None
blitzme
Draftee
what people here need to remember is that we are ESSENDON! we are arguably the most successful, powerful club in VFL/AFL history. WE SHOULD START ACTING LIKE IT!
it seems to me this great club is on a rapid downward spiral and needs something extraordinary to get out of it.
Knights may or may not do well but i firmly believe this is not what our great club needed at this point in time.
anyway the decision has been made, good luck to him. i truly wish him all the best.
it seems to me this great club is on a rapid downward spiral and needs something extraordinary to get out of it.
Knights may or may not do well but i firmly believe this is not what our great club needed at this point in time.
anyway the decision has been made, good luck to him. i truly wish him all the best.
Matthew Knights being our new coach have any effect on Judd saying no to us?
monty1104
Brownlow Medallist
I dont think he would have chosen us anyway in all honesty.
- Oct 9, 2003
- 15,667
- 830
- AFL Club
- Essendon
- Other Teams
- Bolton,Clippers,Falcons,Mariners
Why's it a stupid question? I'd have thought it's perfectly reasonable to ask such a thing.
Why's it a stupid question? I'd have thought it's perfectly reasonable to ask such a thing.
Thank You!
I've got no problem with the fact that time will actually tell whether Knights is any good or not. That's definitely the case. I'm just saying I'm having some difficulty being optimistic about it. Like others have said on the boards over the last few days, I'm feeling pretty flat about the appointment when I was actually expecting to be excited.
As for Harvs et al, I'm not sure entirely what you means by 'boy's man' - but I think he'll do ok. And he would have been a very popular choice with most supporters of the 20+ age bracket, I reckon.
I've no idea whether I'm one of the people that you feel you need to call 'stupid' - but, given the subject matter, I'm assuming I am.
In which case, I suggest you should probably get off your high horse - and appreciate the context in which comments about Knight's past success (or lack thereof) are being made.
You can hardly blame people for raising this point given it was the *Board* (and not us) that made it an issue. If they'd said nothing about needing to get someone with a successful background, then no-one probably would have cared. The problem is that they made this call very explicitly, so you can hardly expect people to forget about it.
The part that is "stupid" is the attitude of people who somehow believe that it's completely unacceptable or disloyal to state one's feelings about the appointment if they're not 100% positive. Or to imply that people haven't got a right to raise some questions about the appointment .. particularly in a situation where there are a number of unanswered aspects about the process.
I'd put it to you that people who are concerned about what has happened (and the potential damage to Essendon's brand in the process) are just as loyal and passionate about the club as anyone else. And it's absolutely obnoxious to infer otherwise. Before anyone accuses me of being part of 'Save Essendon', I better make it clear that I don't agree with those people at all, and regard what they're doing as being very disappointing. I also hope (very sincerely) that Matthew Knights does a sensational job and turns out to be a wonderful coach. But I don't agree that we can't express legitimate concerns about things at the club that don't appear to have been handled as well as they might have been.
No problem.
And, while we're on the subject .. I don't think it would have had a major bearing. But it's possible it had some effect. Particularly if you think about the fact that the chances of Judd coming would quite conceivably have increased if we'd appointed Sumich.
A lot of people seem to share this view. I don't understand why he would prefer a team like Carlton, a rabble for the past 5 years ahead of Essendon. I can see his reasons for Collingwood being a preference, with facilities, potential for success etc. but I thought we would've had as good a chance, if not better than the blues and pies.
- Oct 9, 2003
- 15,667
- 830
- AFL Club
- Essendon
- Other Teams
- Bolton,Clippers,Falcons,Mariners
Why's it a stupid question? I'd have thought it's perfectly reasonable to ask such a thing.
Because its a question that nobody other than Chris Judd can ever answer.
And somehow I don't think he's going to tell us that that is the reason.
The Blues have finally got it together off field after 5 or 6 years of infighting and recriminations...the on field success will follow sooner or later. Whereas Essendon looks to be a little unsettled at the moment and I think you will get worse before you get better in terms of performance...we can only improve.
Anyway I think he'll go to Collingwood.
DaSawx
Brownlow Medallist
never assume anything, most of the people I'm reffering to are fans of opposition clubs, I've read some absolute crap on a lot of boards over the past week and It's starting to get to me.
People are making too big of an issue than it actually is, they take comments and twist and turn them to make something minute seem horribly horrific.
The board said they wanted a big name coach, they wanted Bomber or Williams, they couldn't get them in the end. They decide to go with the best person to help our young kids grow and imrpove. I couldn't care less what the board said 6 weeks ago, they always spin crap, as long as the players respect him and are pumped to play well for him, I'm right behind it.
They can state their feelings, but I've read people totally dismiss him as a coach before he has started, maybe I'm not the one who should get of the high horse, my statement wasn't directed at everyone
You make some good points but I take nothing back. We should all get behind him and look forward to improving, whether it happens or not who knows.
People have the right to be concerned but some just need to think about the reasons behind putting him down before he starts because I have already seen it a lot over the last few days.
DonMania#5
Norm Smith Medallist
Maybe, who knows, who cares?
Gumbleton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Judd
Gumbleton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Judd
bomberbastic
Rookie
The only hints Judd has given are that he wants to play at the MCG, wants a club that is in contention for the flag and a club that is financially sound. You could safely add a club that is willing to make room in it's salary cap for him (he will never be a veteran, so no back-ending here).
We are a club in turmoil with a poor recent track record that plays most games at the dome. If we have any sense, and our young guys are as good as I read, we shouldn't be building his salary expectations into our future plans. I don't think we were ever really in the chase, and I am glad he isn't coming our way.
We are a club in turmoil with a poor recent track record that plays most games at the dome. If we have any sense, and our young guys are as good as I read, we shouldn't be building his salary expectations into our future plans. I don't think we were ever really in the chase, and I am glad he isn't coming our way.
- Banned
- #371
if sumich had of been appointed i think it could only have helped getting judd but we chose to go down another path, the fact our list is top heavy with older stars means that at best we could remain in the same position for the next few years. even if we go up when lloyd, lucas retire we will go down again. I know he is a club man, i know he is great but lucas and lloyd wont be part of our next grand final team, if we can trade lucas to the bulldogs it can only benefit both teams, we need to deepen our list and bring a young brigade together all at once. Lucas wont be great forever.
Carlton and collingwood can only go one way thats up, there groups have an abundance of younger talent, collingwood has the facilites plus the media connections. Carlton has dick pratt, there facilites will improve to probably be the market leader in 3 years they have a great team off-field now. we had no competitive advantage.
He will go to collingwood no doubt, everyone wants to go there, its why we hate them.
Carlton and collingwood can only go one way thats up, there groups have an abundance of younger talent, collingwood has the facilites plus the media connections. Carlton has dick pratt, there facilites will improve to probably be the market leader in 3 years they have a great team off-field now. we had no competitive advantage.
He will go to collingwood no doubt, everyone wants to go there, its why we hate them.
- Banned
- #372
yeah but i think the coaches strategy's have a major part in that plus the players are no good, the brisbane side certainly weren't like that when he was there.
they aint lazy, there slow or lack skill
Honestly.
I don't think we shud be down in the dumps cuzza this, i mean his coming of age. and it's a huge risk to get him cuzza his injury. if u saw him in the last few games of the season. i mean no speed no kicks just handballed it off cuz his injury.
I don't think we shud be down in the dumps cuzza this, i mean his coming of age. and it's a huge risk to get him cuzza his injury. if u saw him in the last few games of the season. i mean no speed no kicks just handballed it off cuz his injury.
Bomber4eva
Debutant
Judd wants to come to Collingwood but WC has said to provide more than one club as an option. As he still wants to do the right thing by WC he has chose Carlton as a choice because they have a bit to offer the eagles. I think Carlton is his "If things turn to crap at the trade table" option.
