Certified Legendary Thread Patrick Cripps and Ah Chee

[The Royal Sampler]

To be fair the wording around Rough Conduct and Front on Contact is littered with "reasonably practicable" "reasonably foresee" and all manner of subjective language that always comes down to the MRO and tribunal interpretation. If that want you to get done for it, they can make almost any incident fit into the category. If they want you to get off, it's all about how "reasonable" it is.

Those provisions are mostly in there to prevent someone getting suspended for getting pushed into someone’s path, or a player tripping and having their head inadvertently collected by a passer-by, only to cop a suspension for not getting out of the way in time. Last minute change of direction stuff.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Could Cripps reasonably forsee that jumping into an opponent with his arm tucked in and elbow at head height would concuss the player if he hits him in the head. Sounds sensible to me.

Yup, 100% agree. My point is that if they wanted to get him off they 100% could with some of the statements outlined in there. I think a player parked under the ball, arms outstretched has a right to a certain amount of protection from someone cannoning their head with their elbow, forearm or shoulder. Otherwise we'd still let defenders throw swinging arm "spoils" into the heads of players camped under the ball for an incoming mark. The game does not need that, or this, but you can spin "reasonable" into any direction depending on how you want the outcome to play out.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Could Cripps reasonably forsee that jumping into an opponent with his arm tucked in and elbow at head height would concuss the player if he hits him in the head. Sounds sensible to me.

Do you think in this case that if he extended out his arm further he would have done more/less damage? Perhaps he could throw out a cheeky elbow rather than tucking it in?

 

[Xtreme]

Has Robbie Williams sung at half time yet ? P

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Has Robbie Williams sung at half time yet ? P

Ease up mate, we still haven’t worked out who’s getting custody of Pistol and Boo.

 

[Plugger35]

Does Cripps get to play on Saturday night if a decision hasn't been made by then?

 

[Sea fog]

For reference, the AFL Tribunal on Tuesday night deliberated for about 40 minutes. If we're sticking to tonight's script, this deliberation will be longer.



Gut feel is Carlton won't win, but I am:



A) Not a lawyer



B) Tired.

 

[Collingwoodity]

How’s Novak doing in his appeal?

 

[The Royal Sampler]

How’s Novak doing in his appeal?

Got the galleries roaring with his Kournikova impression…

 

[BF Tiger]

I’m going to bed, I can’t wait any longer.

Anyway, ON-J and Cripps in the same week… why so Blue?

 

[Sarcoidevo]

If he gets off its a complete farce

Firstly it wasn't a marking contest where you could reasonably expect someone to jump off the ground when attempting to mark ... which happens close to hundred times in game that a player jumps to mark the ball

Given it wasn't a marking contest Cripps had many other options to contest the ball rather than to jump and cannon into him

Head is supposedly sacrosanct outside of marking contests ..... but hey Cripps is football royalty so every chance he gets a bullshit reprieve

 

[The Royal Sampler]

You bump the head, you’re going in!



Don’t think Carlton are going to get him off by citing Free Property Rights of Horse and Carriage from 1798.

 

[Gift]

Firstly it wasn't a marking contest where you could reasonably expect someone to jump off the ground when attempting to mark ... which happens close to hundred times in game that a player jumps to mark the ball

Given it wasn't a marking contest Cripps had many other options to contest the ball rather than to jump and cannon into him

Ruckmen jump and grab it out of the ruck all the time. They arent marking contests.

 

[PieLebo87]

And we’ve taken a break from this appeal to provide you some great RnB entertainment -

 

[Rich01]

Ruckmen jump and grab it out of the ruck all the time. They arent marking contests.

How many ruck contests have resulted in a player getting concussed?

 

[Hoops]

Where are we at?

 

[Sea fog]

Wonder what they're actually talking about.

 

[Sea fog]

Where are we at?

One suspects the longer it goes on, the bigger chance Cripps gets off which will mean outcome based is no longer the case and the head is no longer sacrosanct.

 

[iBeng]

It's gonna be a "find out next time on DragonBall Z!" Type deal at this rate...

 

[Simpleskills]

One suspects the longer it goes on, the bigger chance Cripps gets off which will mean outcome based is no longer the case and the head is no longer sacrosanct.

Accidents happen.

 

[Xtreme]

Where are we at?

 

[Rob R]

Wonder what they're actually talking about.

The importance of Carlton making the finals for ratings and ticket sales.

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[Sea fog]

Accidents happen.

When you bump, according to AFL rules, you accept the consequences.

 

[Sea fog]

The importance of Carlton making the finals for ratings and ticket sales.

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Of course we do know the AFL runs agendas.

 

[largebus]

Trying to stall it so the hearing lasts until the game has to start. Nice try, Carlton