PC Pc Gaming/building thread

[dwwaino]

This is cool but not entirely accurate. With current DLSS FG I find I need a base fps of around 60'ish before enabling FG. FG still comes at a cost so that means my input frames are about 50 something and I get about 70-90 fps back. Any lower base FPS than this and the game gets floaty as it's obviously not receiving as much input. So as long as I follow the same rules I should be able to max out my monitor's refresh rates more. Don't like moving some of those NVIDIA override settings to the app though because I have a bad habit sometimes of fiddling with hardware level settings instead of just playing lol.

 

[dwwaino]

I'd assume +$150 or more for the Asus, MSI etc models right?

ASUS Strix is always the most expensive. I saw they're still doing Strix along with Prime and Astral. Don't know what Astral is but Strix will be the most expensive, add on maybe $300-400 for the OC model. Just looked at my order history and my 4080 Strix OC was $2599 (used vouchers again though weeoo). From memory the going price for 4080 at the time was around $2200 then the Supers later launched and got a $200 price cut. MSI definitely chuck on a little bit on depending on the model. For an MSI Gaming Trio I'm going to guesstimate $2299 if Scorpy are saying starting at $2019.

I'll wager the Asus Strix 5090 OC will be $4500.

 

[dwwaino]

AIBs are starting to drop their line ups. Won't post them all but speaking of MSI here they are. The Suprim will be close to Strix price and will probably aesthetically fit my build more. If it's too much I'll just look at the Gaming Trio. I've seen the Asus Astral which looks nice, Palit and Inno3D looking chonky so I'm just waiting for Zotac. I wonder if Gigabyte will stick with their budget looking Eagle and fancy Aorus.

Edit: MSI Ventus doesn't look at pov as it normally does. Their Vanguard is new and looks like a Gaming Trio alternative.

 

[dwwaino]

Here comes the slides. We'll need to wait for reviews for real data but as expected it's only comparing with DLSS and RT. I use both though so at least personally I know I'm looking at around double'ish my current performance in the same scenarios.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Is 2x Faster Than 4080 At $999, RTX 5070 Ti 2x Faster Than 4070 Ti At $769, RTX 5070 Faster Than 4090 For $549

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5080, 5070 Ti & RTX 5070 GPUs are now official, offering massive leaps over their predecessors at stunning price points.

wccftech.com

 

[Ry009]

I really want to make the jump from the 3080ti to the 5080 but I'm gonna have to build from scratch aren't I?

 

[dwwaino]

I like them all. Will happily settle on whatever I can get in my cart

 

[dwwaino]

I really want to make the jump from the 3080ti to the 5080 but I'm gonna have to build from scratch aren't I?

No necessarily but with the way things are going if you have anything less than a 5700x3d you'll bottleneck.

 

[dwwaino]

So this is what the ROG Astral is. I think that's the first AIB I've ever seen with a 4 fan push pull? Actually looks really tidy but expect ROG tax

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

~2k for the 5080 is what I was expecting, and what I'll be aiming for at this stage. Long service leave starts in July, Windows 10 support ends October, so my window will be the EOFY sales.

Can't wait (apart from having to use Windows 11 ugh)!

Looked up my 980ti, was $1000 when I built my current PC, so half the price. Unsure what it would be if you took 10 years worth of inflation into account.

 

[dav3]

~2k for the 5080 is what I was expecting, and what I'll be aiming for at this stage. Long service leave starts in July, Windows 10 support ends October, so my window will be the EOFY sales.

Can't wait (apart from having to use Windows 11 ugh)!

Looked up my 980ti, was $1000 when I built my current PC, so half the price. Unsure what it would be if you took 10 years worth of inflation into account.

If you're waiting till July or beyond to upgrade chances are the early adopter tax would have gone by then.

Windows 11 is fine

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

If you're waiting till July or beyond to upgrade chances are the early adopter tax would have gone by then.

Windows 11 is fine

Yeah, who knows with PC components though, prices could increase again for a million reasons.

My wife's laptop has 11 and I'm not a fan.

 

[Long Live HFC]

I really want to make the jump from the 3080ti to the 5080 but I'm gonna have to build from scratch aren't I?

No necessarily but with the way things are going if you have anything less than a 5700x3d you'll bottleneck.

that's what i came here to ask - will it be worth moving from a 5800X & 3080 to a 5070ti/5080 for 4k? (I don't really have any complaints currently but you know what it's like when new stuff becomes available!)

 

[dwwaino]

that's what i came here to ask - will it be worth moving from a 5800X & 3080 to a 5070ti/5080 for 4k? (I don't really have any complaints currently but you know what it's like when new stuff becomes available!)

I don't think there will be anything really wrong with it but I don't think it would be worthwhile as you won't be able to utilise a 5000 to the max. I've currently got a 5900x with a 4080 and the CPU has only been a bottleneck on two games (Starfield and Jedi Survivor). IMO anything on Zen 3 that isn't a 3d v-cache CPU won't allow a 5070 and up to fully stretch its legs. Also the 5000 is on PCIe 5 and while 4000 doesn't even saturate PCIe 4 it's probably a good excuse to upgrade to a new generation. If I weren't building a whole new rig I'd have probably "downgraded" my 5900x to a 5800x3d (some can be still found around) or 5700x3d as they're still in the top 5 gaming CPUs I think.

 

[dav3]

Here's your gaming "benchmarks" dwwaino

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series Graphics Cards

Powered by NVIDIA Blackwell.

www.nvidia.com

 

[Long Live HFC]

I don't think there will be anything really wrong with it but I don't think it would be worthwhile as you won't be able to utilise a 5000 to the max. I've currently got a 5900x with a 4080 and the CPU has only been a bottleneck on two games (Starfield and Jedi Survivor). IMO anything on Zen 3 that isn't a 3d v-cache CPU won't allow a 5070 and up to fully stretch its legs. Also the 5000 is on PCIe 5 and while 4000 doesn't even saturate PCIe 4 it's probably a good excuse to upgrade to a new generation. If I weren't building a whole new rig I'd have probably "downgraded" my 5900x to a 5800x3d (some can be still found around) or 5700x3d as they're still in the top 5 gaming CPUs I think.

yeah ok, thanks for the info! haha dammit, i wanted an excuse to upgrade hard to believe my ninja is 4 years old.

 

[dwwaino]

Here's your gaming "benchmarks" dwwaino

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series Graphics Cards

Powered by NVIDIA Blackwell.

www.nvidia.com

Yeah I was flicking through these before. It's all with the conditionals you'd expect so we'll have to wait for real reviews. I play with the settings displayed in example games anyway so at least I'm looking at a ~2x improvment over what I've already got in those scenarios. Looking at the DLSS 3 comparison though I think we'll have a raw uplift of around 10-15%. It's still on the same node afterall so any improvements can only come from architecture and the extra power they're plugging in.

Speaking of power, while the cards don't draw as much as they state while gaming they're rating the 5090 as 575w. It only has 25w left of headroom which doesn't leave much left for OC models. PSUs also allow for spikes but how much and for how long depends on the PSU. Inb4 "5090 crashing111!!" stories.

 

[dwwaino]

yeah ok, thanks for the info! haha dammit, i wanted an excuse to upgrade hard to believe my ninja is 4 years old.

Who needs an excuse?

There will be one more Ryzen generation on AM5 too (so they've said) so building a new rig now means you're set for a while.

 

[dwwaino]

Galax designs ewww

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

I was thinking of getting a 5090 with a 9950x3d but AMD haven't given a release date yet so I hope it's not too far away.

The 5070ti being 16gb ram seems like good value.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

I just upgraded my cpu and mother board.

Want to get a new gpu but don't want to spend over $600 for one what are some recommendations? medium to high at 1080p 60fps is fine for me.

 

[dav3]

I just upgraded my cpu and mother board.

Want to get a new gpu but don't want to spend over $600 for one what are some recommendations?

Wait for the AMD announcements, go Intel Battlemage, or check out the 2nd hand market that's about to get flooded with cards

 

[biaseddustyfan]

Yeah I'll go 5080 at those prices. MSI has never failed me in the past so might stick with them

Any tips for buying one on release? Just gonna have to stay up late and camp a bunch of online stores pressing f5?

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Wait for the AMD announcements, go Intel Battlemage, or check out the 2nd hand market that's about to get flooded with cards

Linus on youtube said that Intel are going to release budget gpus for gamers was something along those line

 

[dwwaino]

Yeah I'll go 5080 at those prices. MSI has never failed me in the past so might stick with them

Any tips for buying one on release? Just gonna have to stay up late and camp a bunch of online stores pressing f5?

Yeah this. Stay logged in, make sure your payment details are already saved and ready to go. I'll camp both Scorptec and PCCG, one open on each screen and see which makes it through the checkout first. I might have a few extra tabs open for different models, I think I really like the MSI Vanguard. Models like Strix will have more people camping. The hardest part is when retailers don't update their listings until they're available so you can't even refresh the product page. I didn't get my 4080 immediately at launch so I don't know how bad that was but 3080 was awful. That was during COVID and silicon shortages though and NVIDIA have apparently been stockpiling. Hopefully 5080 is still the least popular but at that price it will be more attractive to scalpers.

 

[dwwaino]

HUB is already started with their usual anti-DLSS dribble so I guess we can no longer expect an objective review from them.