PC Pc Gaming/building thread

[biaseddustyfan]

Don't know much about that case, I'll have to look it up. The price difference between an average case that you might have issues building in vs a slightly larger premium case isn't actually that much in the long run.

it was just so nice..everything feels solid, all the screw holes lined up perfectly, plenty of room for components + cables, everything really easy to remove and put back in like panels and the PSU shroud. even has spot to hide away your wifi antenna haha

 

[dwwaino]

Not holding my breath I'll be able to secure a card very quickly anymore. Too many comments and reports from distributors and various sources that 5080 supply is extremely thin but better than 5090 which is still non-existent in palaces. This is going to be another paper launch but surely we'll never see a repeat of the 30 series again. Best I hope I can manage is the stores don't block orders so at least I can get a 5090 order in at launch price before they inevitably increase.

 

[blackshadow]

Not holding my breath I'll be able to secure a card very quickly anymore. Too many comments and reports from distributors and various sources that 5080 supply is extremely thin but better than 5090 which is still non-existent in palaces. This is going to be another paper launch but surely we'll never see a repeat of the 30 series again. Best I hope I can manage is the stores don't block orders so at least I can get a 5090 order in at launch price before they inevitably increase.

Surely if you have a palace you can get a 5090!

 

[dwwaino]

Surely if you have a palace you can get a 5090!

Took me a bit but I worked it out. I'll make a throne of them for my palace.

 

[Ry009]

How late are they releasing local prices or is it still TBA?

Reading right it's a 1am release our time?

 

[biaseddustyfan]

How late are they releasing local prices or is it still TBA?

Reading right it's a 1am release our time?

yes 1am I read

Also looks like 5080s are out of reach

 

[Xtreme]

yes 1am I read

Also looks like 5080s are out of reach

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I'll take 3

 

[biaseddustyfan]

Not holding my breath I'll be able to secure a card very quickly anymore. Too many comments and reports from distributors and various sources that 5080 supply is extremely thin but better than 5090 which is still non-existent in palaces. This is going to be another paper launch but surely we'll never see a repeat of the 30 series again. Best I hope I can manage is the stores don't block orders so at least I can get a 5090 order in at launch price before they inevitably increase.

It's interesting because I read a bunch of posts about some random german saying stock will be really low but then in the comments a heap of people saying they talked to their local stores and we're told stock would be way better than last couple generations so idk what to believe

 

[dwwaino]

It's interesting because I read a bunch of posts about some random german saying stock will be really low but then in the comments a heap of people saying they talked to their local stores and we're told stock would be way better than last couple generations so idk what to believe

Yeah I dunno as well. I've read that stock is OK without being great but reading more about it being shit. I wouldn't be surprised if US is getting stocked to beat tariffs at the expense of smaller markets which might be why there are heaps of different reports.

 

[dwwaino]

How late are they releasing local prices or is it still TBA?

Reading right it's a 1am release our time?

I don't get why it's so secretive. Now that the MSRP is known I don't know why they have to hide the price of the other cards until launch. At least let people plan their budgets.

 

[dwwaino]

Paper launch

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series GPUs Already Facing Shortages, Prices For RTX 5090 & RTX 5080 Have Doubled In Some Regions

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 & 5080 are reportedly short in supply, causing delays in shipments and even price increases in some regions.

wccftech.com

 

[biaseddustyfan]

Paper launch

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series GPUs Already Facing Shortages, Prices For RTX 5090 & RTX 5080 Have Doubled In Some Regions

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 & 5080 are reportedly short in supply, causing delays in shipments and even price increases in some regions.

wccftech.com

well that's that guys, no one here needs to bother logging in to try buy one uhhh no one at all

 

[dwwaino]

RIP

Retailers, AIBs, and System Integrators warn of GeForce RTX 50 series shortages and delays - VideoCardz.com

GeForce RTX 50 in short supply NVIDIA has a problem with GPU shipments. NVIDIA made several mistakes during the announcement of the RTX 50 series. Board partners were unable to prepare stock before the end of the year because the company failed to provide the final BIOS on time. Now, it seems...

videocardz.com

 

[dwwaino]

Biggest store in the UK is reporting a few hundred 5080s but only "single digits" for 5090.

Large UK retailer holds "single-digit" stock of GeForce RTX 5090 a week ahead of launch - VideoCardz.com

OverclockersUK tempers expectations on RTX 5090 availability Following the reports on limited stock of GeForce RTX 50 series, OCUK staff member confirms that this large UK-based retailer won’t have many RTX 5090 for sales. OCUK currently has a single-digit stock of RTX 5090 cards, just a week...

videocardz.com

 

[gaskin]

5090 reviews are out. It seems to be not worth it- especially if you play at anything other than 4k.

HUB's benchmarks aren't a great endorsement for the card. The tl:dr is that Steve thinks it is a 4090ti since the performance gains aren't anywhere near what they saw between the 3090 and 4090.

Jayz benchmarks were pretty similar to HUB.

 

[dwwaino]

Reviewers already have 4090s in their systems and are comparing going from a 4090 to 5090. A lot of the tests look CPU bound but 4K full RT there are some pretty substantial gains.

Reviewing a flagship can be weird when it comes to value and recommendation. It's not like you can buy a 4090 anymore (and the last remaining ones are nearly 5090 prices) so coming from anything else there is a significant gain and it's still going to be the fastest card of the generation. I'm sure reviewers will still be putting them in their personal rigs. Blackwell is on the same node as Ada so the generational uplift wasn't going to be the same as previous gens but give me that MFG to max out monitor refresh rates. Interested for the AIB reviews though to compare coolers.

Hopefully this puts off a few and means less fighting to for the two 5090s that will be available next week.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

5090 reviews are out. It seems to be not worth it

It's at least $4k, that was a given!

 

[dwwaino]

Igor's Lab is one of the more interesting ones as most reviewers are just running numbers and feeding graphs. Igor's review looks more at the technology and I do find the stuff on DLSS 4 appealing. I have a rule where I generally won't drop DLSS from Quality as below that is where you start to run into anomalies but apparently even Performance is greatly improved.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition Review - The 600-Watt Powerhouse in Gaming and Lab Tests | igor´sLAB

Today’s article offers a comprehensive review of the GeForce RTX 5090 and the underlying NVIDIA Blackwell architecture. As it is a completely new architecture, it is divided into a theoretical…

www.igorslab.de

I don't think these reviews have thrown any surprises given the shader and core count etc that was already known. It's definitely a fairly linear upgrade like Pascal to Turing. The only concerning thing so far is the amount of power and heat these things are churning. RIP to anyone on an air tower cooler with a 5090 but I also suspect the AIBs will behave a little differently due to both their size and not going with the same pull through design of the FE.

 

[dav3]

RIP to anyone on an air tower cooler with a 5090 but I also suspect the AIBs will behave a little differently due to both their size and not going with the same pull through design of the FE.

Time to start bringing back these things

Asetek VapoChill XE II - Refrigerated PC Case Review

If you're looking for the ultimate overclocking platform, the Asetek Vapochill XE II could be for you. You may have to rob a bank to afford one though.

www.trustedreviews.com

 

[dwwaino]

Time to start bringing back these things

Asetek VapoChill XE II - Refrigerated PC Case Review

If you're looking for the ultimate overclocking platform, the Asetek Vapochill XE II could be for you. You may have to rob a bank to afford one though.

www.trustedreviews.com

I was thinking about how to find a way to hook one of these up. Exhaust fan from a freeway tunnel we did a couple years ago

 

[Ry009]

In terms of generations if you want to think about it that way to think up some plans, Zen 6 which I'm pretty sure will still be on AM5 is due around late 26/early 27, and next gen NVIDIA will probably be mid to late next year. 4000 series was a bit longer than usual (apparently RTX50 was originally planned for late last year) so I'm expecting this new generation to be a little shorter.

Just looping back on this, would upgrading to a 5080 and 5700x3D worth getting with my rig? Or just hold off till I'm ready for a new build?

 

[dwwaino]

Just looping back on this, would upgrading to a 5080 and 5700x3D worth getting with my rig? Or just hold off till I'm ready for a new build?

The worthiness is obviously subjective, but the 5700x3d is purely to alleviate any/most bottlenecks. Even my 5900x is a bottleneck at times. Then the graphics card will be just what you want to spend vs performance. We're going to need to wait for benchmarks which are still coming but the 5080 would give you more performance, but just wait to keep an eye on the 5070ti. It uses the same memory and has the same amount of memory as the 5080 and isn't too far shy in terms of shaders and RT cores and obviously will be better on the wallet. I'd wager it will come in very closely with the 4080 as the specs are similar. If you're planning on keeping it for a while then both the 5080 and 5070ti will have very similar longevity.

 

[dwwaino]

Asus Astral
5090 - $2800USD
5080 - $1900USD

Reviews are really good. Significantly lower temps than FE and actually performs about 8% better. I think the 5080 works out to be really bad value but the 5090 after you convert it to AUD, add GST and general Australian markup if that can stay mid 5s then I think that's really good. Otherwise the Suprim should be significantly cheaper but doesn't seem to be much of an improvement over the FE.

 

[dwwaino]

I'm spending way too long on Reddit sifting through info so everyone is going to have to bear with me while I constantly post upates and info I find. Of course retailers could just announce the ****ing prices and allow people to plan their budgets.

Canadian 5080 and 5090 pricing. Surely it's close to prices here given CAD and AUD are close to parity. I thought Canada includes tax in price but Google says no so to work out some ballpark prices of a few cards by doing conversion, adding GST and typical Aus markup

5080 Gaming Trio OC - $1799CAD - $2400AUD
5080 Zotac Solid - $1499CAD - $1900AUD

5090 Aorus Master OC - $3599CAD - $4600AUD
5090 Windforce OC - $2899CAD - $3800AUD (outlier because not only is it less than MSRP but I doubt any 5090 will sell less for what 4090s have been going for prior to being discontinued)
5090 Astral OC - $4059CAD - $5400AUD

 

[dwwaino]

Also something interesting regarding PSUs for any other idiot who thinks a 5090 isn't an irresponsible purchase. NVIDIA have stated that a 1000w PSU is recommended for the 5090, however Intel in the past have indicated that 1000w PSUs only set the 12v2x6 to 450w maximum, while those 1100w and over should have 600w on the connector. Not all PSUs follow this scheme but there is a chance that some 1000w PSUs won't actually handle 5090s. He also recommends against any 1000w at all for Intel based systems.

In case anyone doesn't know this is the bloke behind the new Cybernetics standard.