Peter Wright contact with Harry Cunningham: Pleads Guilty and Receives 4 Week Suspension

[Maddo11]

Pity Harry hit his head on the way down, but I guess that is on Wright as well.

Only correct thing you've said so far

 

[Foxx]

Actually fortunate. If he puts his arms out and collects Cunningham with an elbow the guy is down hard. Worse if he didn't try to pull up at all and kept stream-rolling at high speed through Harry. I mean, yes they would have arrived at the ball at the same time but he would have knocked Cunningham in to next week.

Pity Harry hit his head on the way down, but I guess that is on Wright as well. You know, after Harry came in against the flight of the ball with no awareness and zero concern for his safety and that of Wrights, the guy the ball was kicked to in the first place.

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Needs to just cannon through attempting the mark like Jonathan Brown. He'd do more damage, but it's the only legal option.

 

[Ari]

Only correct thing you've said so far

Thanks... I try

 

[Elixuh]

If Peter Wright kept running at the ball like a stream train and did not pull at at the end then they arrive together and Cunningham is probably still out cold today.

If 2 meter Peter had contested the ball and it still caused Cunningham to be knocked out then there is no issue for 2 meter Peter. The fact is 2 meter Peter braced, leapt and bumped Cunningham instead of playing the ball.

You seem to be doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to reach the conclusion that this is a travesty for 2 meter Peter.

 

[SSSSSS]

So when do we get the gallows out.

 

[zyzzbruh]

Come on! He didn't cop a shoulder to the head. Peter pulled his arm in to his body and turned his body to make the impact as soft as possible. At the pace they were both going this could have been 10x worse than the Maynard one if this did not happen.

If Cunningham wants to run against the flight of the ball, a ball that was not intended for him, then he has to accept that the guy to whom the ball was kicked to is also going to be contesting the mark. He cannot see it any other way.



If he kept running and stiffened himself then he probably cracks a rib or two, and maybe Cunningham is up at the tribunal on a duty of care to answer for, running back in to players with zero awareness. He 'twisted in to it' to actually reduce impact or risk of elbows and shoulders and have his torso carry the load which he did as well as possible.



You are just making things up now, no difference between someone running backward like a headless chook with zero awareness and someone running head on to a ball that has been kicked to them? Come on... you are better than that.

Both players ran to the ball bud. If both players stayed stationary neither of them would've got it. You have to run to the drop of the ball to get the ball, the direction of travel is irrelevant, they both had duty of care to each other the second the ball took flight. Like i said there's no such thing as right of way in footy doesn't matter where the intended target is. With that logic the intended target would have the right to bulldoze anyone in their way regardless of how poor the kick was because they were the intended target. BS Cunningham had no awareness, he would've been fully aware that he was about to cop a hit. But he has every right for that hit to not be a purposely turned in shoulder to the head.

If 2MP wants to protect his ribs after deciding to go full pelt knowing that Cunningham was coming, he should've adjusted himself. Stiffening his arms across his torso where he would've been hit would've protected his ribs and would've reduced impact on Cunningham. Turning in increased his velocity, and choosing the upper arm as the impact point concentrated the surface area to Cunningham's head.

 

[Romeoh1]

I don’t really get the carry on. The rules changed over the holiday season. The players are learning the new ways- it’s bad luck but he is goneski. If you accept that we are trying to limit concussions to as few as possible, then this is how it is- you have a duty of care and need to learn how to apply it. He had the option of going for the ball- he didn’t take it. He had time to put his hands out or simply push in to Cunningham without jumping up. It’s a harsh punishment but this is the way it’s going to be and it’s for the betterment of players’ heads, so it’s worth pursuing even if it means some people are a bit unlucky. And he is unlucky- but not as unlucky as the guy he banged into.

 

[SplintWhisky]

His physical decision to jump would have been made 3 strides and 5 metres ago. His foot may be on the ground here, however his body is already in the air. You don't get it, and that's fine.

Thats fine, then 3 strides earlier he can make the same decision to attempt a mark. Cuts both ways

 

[Foxx]

If 2 meter Peter had contested the ball and it still caused Cunningham to be knocked out then there is no issue for 2 meter Peter. The fact is 2 meter Peter braced, leapt and bumped Cunningham instead of playing the ball.

You seem to be doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to reach the conclusion that this is a travesty for 2 meter Peter.

So you'd prefer he caused more damage to Cunningham by legally barrelling through completing the attempted mark?

 

[Elixuh]

So you'd prefer he caused more damage to Cunningham by legally barrelling through completing the attempted mark?

Collisions and injuries happen. Is your argument that we need to play touch footy and players shouldn’t be able to jump for marks because injuries can happen?

Or some more mental gymnastics from Bombers supporters to demonstrate what a travesty this is for 2 meter Peter.

 

[SplintWhisky]

Or his arm is in that position to take a chest mark

His eyes are firmly on the ball until half way through is jump which he then starts to brace.

He is no way shape or form bracing before jumping. And if that’s your take, I think you discredit yourself immediately.

Keeping one arm stuck across the torso is a very strange and new chest marking strategy. He is bracing as he launches and leaves the ground. Like I have said, if his right arm opens up even a little bit he is 100% fine.

This is his stride before planting and launching - His right Arm is also mid stride/swing


This here is when he is mid crouch/prepping to launch. This is as open the right arm gets and as low.


By the end of the Launching stride the arm is tucked in to brace for contact and twisting.

 

[Foxx]

Collisions and injuries happen. Is your argument that we need to play touch footy and players shouldn’t be able to jump for marks because injuries can happen?

Or some more mental gymnastics from Bombers supporters to demonstrate what a travesty this is for 2 meter Peter.

I take it that's a yes.

 

[zyzzbruh]

So you'd prefer he caused more damage to Cunningham by legally barrelling through completing the attempted mark?

In that case it would've been a legit football incident. And there's no evidence to suggest Cunningham would've been worse off whereas a shoulder to the head is a guaranteed concussion. Players cop strong hits with both players going the ball all the time without injury. A stomach to the head might've cushioned Cunningham. Whether 2mp wants to open up his body is up to him, he decided to make a contest of it so that's on him. Contest and put your body on the line or don't - every player knows the risk of the game they decided to play. That's what Cunningham did and deserves to not cop a non football act to his head.

That's not what happened tho. He decided to brace and that's the end of it.

Plus he wouldn't have marked it, it was in cunninghams arms before the hit

 

[adammania9]

I think he should get off because he plays for a Victorian club

 

[Foxx]

In that case it would've been a legit football incident. And there's no evidence to suggest Cunningham would've been worse off whereas a shoulder to the head is a guaranteed concussion. Players cop strong hits with both players going the ball all the time without injury. A stomach to the head might've cushioned Cunningham. Whether 2mp wants to open up his body is up to him, he decided to make a contest of it so that's on him. Contest and put your body on the line or don't - every player knows the risk of the game they decided to play. That's what Cunningham did and deserves to not cop a non football act to his head.

That's not what happened tho. He decided to brace and that's the end of it.

Plus he wouldn't have marked it, it was in cunninghams arms before the hit

It's a very good chance he receives a worse result if Wright barrelled throughout attempting the mark, instead of bracing for impact.

The bigger picture is this is all about the head injuries. If it's not for the new "Maynard" rule, this probably gets no penalty last year.

 

[Beerfish]

So when do we get the gallows out.

Last Saturday?

I'm just glad Pete didn't end up with cracked ribs. He'll get what he gets from this week's chook lotto but at least he's not injured too. Will come back fit and ready to go.

 

[Handyandy]

The tribunal have snookered themselves by giving SPP 4
They have very little room to manoeuvre

With SPPs the tribunal accepted that he intended to tackle & only turned his body at the last fraction of a second instinctively to protect himself when Keane was slung into his path. Sounds accidental?
No, he still got 4 because he ran at high speed at a group of players moving in an unpredictable manner & should have foreseen a collision was likely
No shit

 

[Ari]

Well, the fact we have 23 pages of content here shows that there is still a lot of ambiguity around this. The Maynard incident changed the rules, and we know that, however working forward will take some work and some time.

For sure nobody wants to see injured players and just the same, nobody wants to see the game turned in to a fairy parade. Whichever way it goes, it's going to be difficult.

Probably should be 2 weeks, or none. But I suspect it will be 4 weeks, or even 6... which is pretty harsh for a guy running to take a mark.

 

[zyzzbruh]

It's a very good chance he receives a worse result if Wright barrelled throughout attempting the mark, instead of bracing for impact.

The bigger picture is this is all about the head injuries. If it's not for the new "Maynard" rule, this probably gets no penalty last year.

The guy was knocked out cold and had no recollection of what happened. Not sure what outcome you would consider worse. These turned shoulders are clearly providing the worst outcome in a given situation so may as well roll the dice on banning it and have Wright contest the ball fully and properly.

I think the screenshots posted above proves he was ready to turn the shoulder before he even left the floor once he realised he was going to be 2nd to it. So throws the ambiguity out the window really.

 

[.Shotties.]

An extended arm see's Wright with a few broken ribs and the achievement of beating evolutionary awareness to protect himself. Harry still slams in to Peters body at full speed. It makes little difference to the outcome of Harry however probably see's two injured players and not one.

No, it probably doesn't. He probably clears the ball, there's a heavy collision and both are sore but not KOed

 

[.Shotties.]

If Peter Wright kept barrelling to the ball, they would have arrived together and Cunningham would still be asleep now. How can you not know this?

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Lol. There is absolutely zero change in pace in Wright's approach, he just turns his body and stops playing at the ball.

Look, I don't think he intentionally lined up Cunningham, but he stopped playing at the ball. He got heaten to the drop and instead of going for the spoil, he protected himself at the detriment of the player who made their sole focus the ball and played the ball, just like with Impey last year.

 

[.Shotties.]

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If he kept running and stiffened himself then he probably cracks a rib or two, and maybe Cunningham is up at the tribunal on a duty of care to

What on earth? No he wouldn't. He played the ball and got there first. There's no universe on which Cunningham gets a tribunal visit for playing the ball the entire time

 

[.Shotties.]

With you being a Sydney Swans supporter, I think the guy is just asking why the same rules are not applied among all teams in the competition. As in, why Sydney seem to get an armchair from the AFL when it comes to the MRP. Redman goes out for a week for a jumper punch, yet a Swans player has nothing to answer for. You call it deflection, I ask where the equality is.

Because Heeney, blind, threw an arm back at a player who was bent over and pulling at him, getting a few fingers in Hind's face. Redman was looking at another player when he decided to have a swing at Newcomb.

What grading should Henney have got?

 

[Toump Ass]

Keeping one arm stuck across the torso is a very strange and new chest marking strategy.

I do find this a bit curious. I'm giving 2 Metres the benefit of the doubt though, perhaps unwisely.

 

[Swanssince91]

Needs to just cannon through attempting the mark like Jonathan Brown. He'd do more damage, but it's the only legal option.

Better option than hip and shouldering someone from behind.
Coward act