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Pick 36: Rory Taggert
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Re: Pick 36
Same here, would have been great to get Kavanagh but he'll be long gone by 36, we would've had a good shot with 12 though if we'd kept it.
Same here, would have been great to get Kavanagh but he'll be long gone by 36, we would've had a good shot with 12 though if we'd kept it.
DeeWong6996
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Re: Pick 36
Really?
Tipungwuti is a poor man's Wonaeamirri. He seems overweight, lazy and cannot consistently put four quarters together. Cannot remember the names of any other small forwards but Tipungwuti would clearly not satisfy our small forward "need."
I was thinking about this the other day, what are you guys' thoughts on Blease in the forward pocket? Would sacrifice his ability to run and carry, but his electrifying pace would make him an ideal crumber. (Those saying that Kelvin Lawrence is the answer can shut up...)
Really?
Tipungwuti is a poor man's Wonaeamirri. He seems overweight, lazy and cannot consistently put four quarters together. Cannot remember the names of any other small forwards but Tipungwuti would clearly not satisfy our small forward "need."
I was thinking about this the other day, what are you guys' thoughts on Blease in the forward pocket? Would sacrifice his ability to run and carry, but his electrifying pace would make him an ideal crumber. (Those saying that Kelvin Lawrence is the answer can shut up...)
Re: Pick 36
recycled player?
recycled player?
DeeWong6996
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Re: Pick 36
Never really crossed my mind to consider Manson TBH. He's listed as 195cm and 80kg so not too indifferent from Cook. Of course, he is extremely athletic and has Buddy-like qualities. However, he will probably need a season or two at Casey to develop his frame. Also read somewhere that he has serious issues with homesickness...
I would probably use pick 36 on him if we still had 12, but since thats our first pick, I would like us not to gamble. Wouldn't hesitate if he was still there at 52.
Never really crossed my mind to consider Manson TBH. He's listed as 195cm and 80kg so not too indifferent from Cook. Of course, he is extremely athletic and has Buddy-like qualities. However, he will probably need a season or two at Casey to develop his frame. Also read somewhere that he has serious issues with homesickness...
I would probably use pick 36 on him if we still had 12, but since thats our first pick, I would like us not to gamble. Wouldn't hesitate if he was still there at 52.
DeeWong6996
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Topkent
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Re: Pick 36
pick 36 is always a gamble.Never really crossed my mind to consider Manson TBH. He's listed as 195cm and 80kg so not too indifferent from Cook. Of course, he is extremely athletic and has Buddy-like qualities. However, he will probably need a season or two at Casey to develop his frame. Also read somewhere that he has serious issues with homesickness...
I would probably use pick 36 on him if we still had 12, but since thats our first pick, I would like us not to gamble. Wouldn't hesitate if he was still there at 52.
DeeWong6996
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Re: Pick 36
Surely you're not serious? I'm just suggesting there are safer options Mr. Fev
Surely you're not serious? I'm just suggesting there are safer options Mr. Fev
Topkent
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Re: Pick 36
Im dead serious, pick 36 is a stab in the dark, there is no guarantee that you will get a good player. For what its worth we should go after a big bodied player who can make an immediate impact in the midfield.
Chip_
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Re: Pick 36
I wouldn't be using our first live pick on Manson, but happily give him a go if he's still alive with our 2nd or later pick.
While our first pick is late & with the much talked about shallow talent pool, we still want to try to gain something out of the draft, I can hardly see us taking what's seen as a very risky pick (firstly in that he may get homesick & leave).
Manson is a monster in NT footy with his height, some of the more astute BF watchers of junior football say they wonder how he'll transfer it to AFL level if he has to compete with a lock-down defender like Glass.
He's no buddy & doesn't even really play like him, Buddy was a top 5 pick for a reason, this guy is much more speculative & could go anywhere from top 30 to rookie or not at all
I wouldn't be using our first live pick on Manson, but happily give him a go if he's still alive with our 2nd or later pick.
While our first pick is late & with the much talked about shallow talent pool, we still want to try to gain something out of the draft, I can hardly see us taking what's seen as a very risky pick (firstly in that he may get homesick & leave).
Manson is a monster in NT footy with his height, some of the more astute BF watchers of junior football say they wonder how he'll transfer it to AFL level if he has to compete with a lock-down defender like Glass.
He's no buddy & doesn't even really play like him, Buddy was a top 5 pick for a reason, this guy is much more speculative & could go anywhere from top 30 to rookie or not at all
Re: Pick 36
TPM - I notice all of your guys are gone before pick 27 in the Bigfooty phantom draft..
Crozier made it to pick 27 with Wall-e suggesting he didnt think he'd have that choice and he's too good a player to pass here.
The phantom draft isnt always accurate though.. so hope youre right!
TPM - I notice all of your guys are gone before pick 27 in the Bigfooty phantom draft..
Crozier made it to pick 27 with Wall-e suggesting he didnt think he'd have that choice and he's too good a player to pass here.
The phantom draft isnt always accurate though.. so hope youre right!
ThePuppetMaster
Yay
Re: Pick 36
The PD is always inaccurate save for the top 5-6!!
Haha; there were a few some good picks, the fact that Ellis and Paine slid to 31 and 32 shows we can definitely get a good prospect.
The PD is always inaccurate save for the top 5-6!!
Haha; there were a few some good picks, the fact that Ellis and Paine slid to 31 and 32 shows we can definitely get a good prospect.
Logger
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Re: Pick 36
Deewong, rather than actual players maybe you should change it to types of players. Something like:
-matue age mid
-flexible kpp
-small forward
-kid with pace
-best available young player regardless of type
Something like that, rather than specific kids, might give us a better idea of who wants what at this draft.
Deewong, rather than actual players maybe you should change it to types of players. Something like:
-matue age mid
-flexible kpp
-small forward
-kid with pace
-best available young player regardless of type
Something like that, rather than specific kids, might give us a better idea of who wants what at this draft.
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Re: Pick 36
We are screaming out for a genuine small forward and that's what I'm hoping they'll draft.
We are screaming out for a genuine small forward and that's what I'm hoping they'll draft.
Blackas87
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Re: Pick 36
We are screaming out for a tough inside clearance midfielder to help out Brent Moloney and that's what I'm hoping they'll draft.
We are screaming out for a tough inside clearance midfielder to help out Brent Moloney and that's what I'm hoping they'll draft.
Re: Pick 36
Is 17?
yes he will help but he is 17... we also need good outside mids, Evans and Nicho look to be taking the preseason seriously so lets hope that at least one of them becomes a 2012 regular.
I would use pick 36 on the best available player, i doesnt matter, we will pick up 3 great first round players next year, the 2012 draft will be like gold to us.
Is 17?
yes he will help but he is 17... we also need good outside mids, Evans and Nicho look to be taking the preseason seriously so lets hope that at least one of them becomes a 2012 regular.
I would use pick 36 on the best available player, i doesnt matter, we will pick up 3 great first round players next year, the 2012 draft will be like gold to us.
ThePuppetMaster
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Re: Pick 36
One, I wouldn't be so sure we're going to use all our compo's next year.
Two, Viney may be 17 but drafting an 18 year old inside mid with pick 36 doesn't scream 'immediate impact' does it?
I think we should be looking at a small forward... Murray Newman is one who we should have our eye on.
Is versatile enough to play as a mid as well.
One, I wouldn't be so sure we're going to use all our compo's next year.
Two, Viney may be 17 but drafting an 18 year old inside mid with pick 36 doesn't scream 'immediate impact' does it?
I think we should be looking at a small forward... Murray Newman is one who we should have our eye on.
Is versatile enough to play as a mid as well.
Blackas87
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Re: Pick 36
Yes Jack Viney is only one player though.
Brent Moloney was the only Melbourne player to finish in the top 50 in the league in clearences, I think he even might of been our only player in the top 75.
West Coast had 5 players in the top 50, Collingwood had 4, Geelong had 4, Melbourne 1.
Melbourne finished 16th in the league in clearences in 2011, no wonder we struggled so much, we didn't struggle because we didn't have a small forward.
Moloney who is 28 next year might only be around for another 2-4 years, we need guys to step up and quick. Out of our youngsters Gysberts looks like he could be one, Trengove and Mckenzie while they're tough nuts they aren't big clearences winners.
So if we want to be a top 4 side like Collingwood, Geelong and West Coast we need at least 4 top 50 clearence players. So for the long term Gysberts might be one, Viney might be one, and we need at least 2 others.
Did Krakouer make a big difference to Collingwood this year? Is Varcoe the reason why Geelong are so good? Does West Coast even have a small forward. Unless you have Stephen Milne or Jeff farmer small forward aren't that important, they're just handy to have.
Our number one priority should be looking for tough inside clearence players, not small forwards, we already have players that could fill in the role of a small forward anyway, Bennell, Blease, Davey, Jetta, Jones, Nicholson.
Yes Jack Viney is only one player though.
Brent Moloney was the only Melbourne player to finish in the top 50 in the league in clearences, I think he even might of been our only player in the top 75.
West Coast had 5 players in the top 50, Collingwood had 4, Geelong had 4, Melbourne 1.
Melbourne finished 16th in the league in clearences in 2011, no wonder we struggled so much, we didn't struggle because we didn't have a small forward.
Moloney who is 28 next year might only be around for another 2-4 years, we need guys to step up and quick. Out of our youngsters Gysberts looks like he could be one, Trengove and Mckenzie while they're tough nuts they aren't big clearences winners.
So if we want to be a top 4 side like Collingwood, Geelong and West Coast we need at least 4 top 50 clearence players. So for the long term Gysberts might be one, Viney might be one, and we need at least 2 others.
Did Krakouer make a big difference to Collingwood this year? Is Varcoe the reason why Geelong are so good? Does West Coast even have a small forward. Unless you have Stephen Milne or Jeff farmer small forward aren't that important, they're just handy to have.
Our number one priority should be looking for tough inside clearence players, not small forwards, we already have players that could fill in the role of a small forward anyway, Bennell, Blease, Davey, Jetta, Jones, Nicholson.
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Re: Pick 36
Really good points, except for your last point of those players you listed only davey could and has played that small forward role.
Bennell plays his best footy down back despite spending time up forward
Blease grooming him to play attacking half back and could move to a wing
Jetta, was recruited playing as a mid in the u18's and has struggled like bennell to play as a small forward
Jones plays his best footy on a wing, could also help us with winning clearences as his is strong body
Nicholson, will play his best footy on a wing
However with a new coach some of these players could find a new role in the side.
Really good points, except for your last point of those players you listed only davey could and has played that small forward role.
Bennell plays his best footy down back despite spending time up forward
Blease grooming him to play attacking half back and could move to a wing
Jetta, was recruited playing as a mid in the u18's and has struggled like bennell to play as a small forward
Jones plays his best footy on a wing, could also help us with winning clearences as his is strong body
Nicholson, will play his best footy on a wing
However with a new coach some of these players could find a new role in the side.
king_couttsy20
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Re: Pick 36
Am I the only one who thinks that the Club has no intention of using those compo picks next year? There's a lot of talented players coming out of contract next year, and with the cash still on offer from GWS next year, I'm sure that a number of clubs (Geelong, Collingwood etc.) will be concerned about that.
The fact that we've got 2 picks in the first round (plus our own pick, which is being used on Jack Viney) makes us very powerful - and means we have the capacity to package them up to get what we want.
Sides that are getting older might be prepared to trade a very talented 26-28 year old midfielder for a compo pick. Or package up both picks for that clubs' first round pick plus a player (or 2)...
We can't just keep collecting kids - at some point, we need to trade for need, and I think that will come at the end of next season...
Am I the only one who thinks that the Club has no intention of using those compo picks next year? There's a lot of talented players coming out of contract next year, and with the cash still on offer from GWS next year, I'm sure that a number of clubs (Geelong, Collingwood etc.) will be concerned about that.
The fact that we've got 2 picks in the first round (plus our own pick, which is being used on Jack Viney) makes us very powerful - and means we have the capacity to package them up to get what we want.
Sides that are getting older might be prepared to trade a very talented 26-28 year old midfielder for a compo pick. Or package up both picks for that clubs' first round pick plus a player (or 2)...
We can't just keep collecting kids - at some point, we need to trade for need, and I think that will come at the end of next season...
Re: Pick 36
If we want a 26-28 year old next year we can throw cash at them and get them (assuming they want to come) couresty of free agency, so the compo picks really have little relevance in that regard.
Also getting Mitch Clark this year is clearing trading for needs so I think the club agrees that we can't keep collecting kids and is moving to fill our gaps.
If we want a 26-28 year old next year we can throw cash at them and get them (assuming they want to come) couresty of free agency, so the compo picks really have little relevance in that regard.
Also getting Mitch Clark this year is clearing trading for needs so I think the club agrees that we can't keep collecting kids and is moving to fill our gaps.
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Re: Pick 36
Another vote here for tuck, if he's over his off field issues he would slot straight into our midfield.
Josh Waldhuter also looks the goods, loves getting in and under I doubt he will last to 36 though but if he does... pencil him in!
Another vote here for tuck, if he's over his off field issues he would slot straight into our midfield.
Josh Waldhuter also looks the goods, loves getting in and under I doubt he will last to 36 though but if he does... pencil him in!
