Player Watch Pick #49 (2020) - Ollie Lord

[TeeKray]

I think he's got huge potential and has shown way more than his draft pick number would suggest. But if you can't kick, you can't play. It's that simple. And luckily, it's easy to fix.

 

[Schulzenfest]

You can't be balanced on this you've wanted him delisted from the get-go & can't acknowledge anything he does well at all.

That's just a complete lie but hopefully posting it made you feel better.

 

[Jimmy95]

I think he's got huge potential and has shown way more than his draft pick number would suggest. But if you can't kick, you can't play. It's that simple. And luckily, it's easy to fix.

Given how bad many key forwards are at set shot goal kicking these days, it doesn't seem easy to fix.

 

[Jojay]

I think he's got huge potential and has shown way more than his draft pick number would suggest. But if you can't kick, you can't play. It's that simple. And luckily, it's easy to fix.

I agree with your post except for the last bit. It ain't an easy fix.

 

[JimmyBC]

That's just a complete lie but hopefully posting it made you feel better.

Never seen a positive comment from you regarding him & you called for his delisting before his debut.

 

[Coobk001]

I'm still shocked at how much Ollie has shown. I didn't see it coming after watching him at SANFL level, he does fit the AFL gamestyle well. Obviously the kicking is not just an issue physically, but the mental side of it is destined to take hold as well if it hasn't already. Its a long way back from there. At least with Georgie and Ollie we're starting to look like we have some promising KPF depth.

 

[Jimmy95]

Maybe a big part of the poor accuracy of key forward set shot goal kicking these days is the fact they are so tall now, often pushing 200cm. Maybe this is an unfair stereotype but generally I've found very tall people to be much less hand-eye coordinated than people a bit shorter.

The medium size forwards generally appear to be much more reliable. The great key forwards of yesteryear were around the 190cm mark, some much less.

 

[TeeKray]

Maybe a big part of the poor accuracy of key forward set shot goal kicking these days is the fact they are so tall now, often pushing 200cm. Maybe this is an unfair stereotype but generally I've found very tall people to be much less hand-eye coordinated than people a bit shorter.

The medium size forwards generally appear to be much more reliable. The great key forwards of yesteryear were around the 190cm mark, some much less.

Greater distance from hand to foot increases the room for error, pretty simple.

 

[JimmyBC]

Greater distance from hand to foot increases the room for error, pretty simple.

Yet we have a gigantic american kicking straight lol

 

[TeeKray]

Yet we have a gigantic american kicking straight lol

Shows the benefit of teaching someone from scratch so no bad habits creep in.

Cox is interesting though because he kicks straight but can't kick it more than about 40 metres. Would probably take that with all of our forwards though to be fair.

 

[backtozero]

Greater distance from hand to foot increases the room for error, pretty simple.

Not if you've got really long arms.

 

[JimmyBC]

Shows the benefit of teaching someone from scratch so no bad habits creep in.

Cox is interesting though because he kicks straight but can't kick it more than about 40 metres. Would probably take that with all of our forwards though to be fair.

I reckon you have something there he never developed bad habits as a junior.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Shows the benefit of teaching someone from scratch so no bad habits creep in.

Cox is interesting though because he kicks straight but can't kick it more than about 40 metres. Would probably take that with all of our forwards though to be fair.

All players, but especially forwards, should know their kicking and kicking action intimately.

I always loved Jason Akermanis and his kicking action. Gun barrel straight. Kicked on both sides. Set shots or on the run.
I think of Tredders who didn't have the best kick when he started but improved it to a good standard and then could roost off the left for 50 metres as well.

You don't really hear AFL players taking extra shots after practice. I'm sure they do but it's not a thing. Maybe it is.

In the NBA, if your shot is a bit down, a player can go and get some shots up. It can be a 1000 a day, just to get the form and memory back up.

It is obscene that forwards can't kick well in a professional environment. I guess there are guys who put the extra effort in themselves.

 

[PJ Power]

It’s not all doom and gloom with Lord at all.

His contested marking, leading and general involvements in the matches he’s played have been better than expected and better than you would have forecast from his exposed SANFL form.

He complements the roles played by Marshall, Finlayson and Georgiades, so fits in with our future forward 50 plans.

He should now have extended time at the lower level to focus on the mechanics of goal kicking, prioritising this again over the off-season so that it doesn’t become an AFL bad habit. I think he can do this, albeit the MG experience suggests it’s not as easy as it sounds.

 

[Butters and Pepper]

On the subject of the goalkicking ability of really tall players, Paul Salmon seems the most obvious exception to the rule. Perhaps Spida Everitt too.

 

[PJ Power]

On the subject of the goalkicking ability of really tall players, Paul Salmon seems the most obvious exception to the rule. Perhaps Spida Everitt too.

Of our crop, Visentini kicks well for goal.

 

[Malibu#27]

Shows the benefit of teaching someone from scratch so no bad habits creep in.

Cox is interesting though because he kicks straight but can't kick it more than about 40 metres. Would probably take that with all of our forwards though to be fair.

Cox always looks quite stiff when hes kicking - but straight.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

On the subject of the goalkicking ability of really tall players, Paul Salmon seems the most obvious exception to the rule. Perhaps Spida Everitt too.

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[Wargreymon90]

I expected nothing from lord when he had his debut.

I think he has shown that he has “something”. He’s certainly not a sure thing, but the fact that he is aggressive and puts himself in positions to score is a massive positive. I’d take that over Marshall’s start to his career where he was basically invisible (and I love Marshall).

To write him off based on missed set shots as a result of nerves is quite simplistic and a bit dim tbh.

 

[PortWTF]

In my amateur opinion he runs straight at the goals initially but if he is more than 30m out then the last few steps he deviates to the right which is where most of his kicks go, either directly in the line that he was running or shanking to the right.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Given how bad many key forwards are at set shot goal kicking these days, it doesn't seem easy to fix.

They should trial extending the 30 second set shot routine to 45 seconds, see if that solves any issues at all. The only negative is the ability to set up defensively.

Should move to a 6:6:6 at any stoppage (Ball up, Throw in or Kick in) and allow any of the umpires to adjudicate it to combat the density.

 

[Bevoman]

All players, but especially forwards, should know their kicking and kicking action intimately.

I always loved Jason Akermanis and his kicking action. Gun barrel straight. Kicked on both sides. Set shots or on the run.
I think of Tredders who didn't have the best kick when he started but improved it to a good standard and then could roost off the left for 50 metres as well.

You don't really hear AFL players taking extra shots after practice. I'm sure they do but it's not a thing. Maybe it is.

In the NBA, if your shot is a bit down, a player can go and get some shots up. It can be a 1000 a day, just to get the form and memory back up.

It is obscene that forwards can't kick well in a professional environment. I guess there are guys who put the extra effort in themselves.

I can remember being in Melbourne for a training course in the eighties and went out to Glenferrie Oval to catch up with an old school mate Andy Bennett (ex Panthers) and watch the Hawks train: it was the week after Lee Mathews played his 300 games.

When everyone had finished training Mathews stayed out by himself (with a runner/trainer).
He slowly started moving along the 50 metre line, taking shot after shot at the goals: he stayed out for an extra 30 minutes or so, and did not finish until he meet up with the boundary line on the other side of the oval. I was gobsmacked, such dedication after just playing his 300 game.

 

[JUSTWORK]

They should trial extending the 30 second set shot routine to 45 seconds, see if that solves any issues at all. The only negative is the ability to set up defensively.

Should move to a 6:6:6 at any stoppage (Ball up, Throw in or Kick in) and allow any of the umpires to adjudicate it to combat the density.

Allowing 45 seconds to have a shot just invites time wasting.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Allowing 45 seconds to have a shot just invites time wasting.

How long did Dunstll and Locket take to have a set shot routine? Waste time, it’s time on anyway. These blokes took 60 seconds to get their breathing and heart rate down to execute their skill. Our game has evolved so much over the years but the thing that continues to be worse and worse is set shot goal kicking. We are asking these athletes to run kms on end then execute the skill that sells the game in 30 seconds, it just doesn’t make sense.

 

[klem22]

Ollie LORD plays like he wants to be there
I think his goal kicking imo was due to nerves and he should be able to rectify this fault.
It will be a crying shame if he dosent as I can see him holding down a key forward role if he does.