Opinion Pick 5* 2024 – Who do you want? (profiles and consensus rankings included)

[Scythe94]

Updated Draft Tracker with combine results, talent league stats and consensus rankings

 

[stavro#4]

Love the optimism but no one is taking Smillie over Langford. If anyone does they should be sacked.

A Richmond list manager who is a coach at the same junior club Smillie plays at and would obviously rate him … might take him at 6.

 

[Mich0]

A Richmond list manager who is a coach at the same junior club Smillie plays at and would obviously rate him … might take him at 6.

Sounds like St fans rate Smillie about as much as Dees fans do

 

[stavro#4]

Sounds like St fans rate Smillie about as much as Dees fans do

If he is the only mid left and he falls to us.

No issues I’ll happily have him.

But if it’s a choice between him and Langford. I want Harvey.

 

[Grimey Sylvia]

If Crowd take Smith at 2 it will likely be

1. Richmond: Lalor
2. Crows: Smith
3. Carlton: Draper
4. North: Tauru
5. Dees: FOS or Langford (Surely we go FOS)
6. Richmond: Langford or Reid
7. St Kilda: Smillie
8. St Kilda: Langford or Armstrong
9. Demons: Travaglia or Allan

Oh my... FOS for sure.

Could you imagine a world where saints take Armstrong (KPF) leaving us with Langford - strong marking, goal kicking mid? Is this McCartin and Trac 2.0? (Poor man's version obviously).

 

[Crusty Demon]

Oh my... FOS for sure.

Could you imagine a world where saints take Armstrong (KPF) leaving us with Langford - strong marking, goal kicking mid? Is this McCartin and Trac 2.0? (Poor man's version obviously).

No way Langford gets to our pick 9. Imagine a world where we get FOS and Langford!? Holy hell.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

We traded 28, 40, 46, 54, 65 and a future first rounder for 9.

It would take a ridiculous offer to move it on.

Other thing to consider with 9 trade is Kalani White being F/S eligible next year.

Moving our F1 out and being able to match a bid on him could be genius.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Other thing to consider with 9 trade is Kalani White being F/S eligible next year.

Moving our F1 out and being able to match a bid on him could be genius.

I honestly don't think based on what he's produced recently, that we will need a bid too high. But he could have a decent last year as a junior that changes that. His height and athleticism alone could see a first round bid.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

I'd go Langford over FOS at this point.

But unsure how much injury impacted FOS year this year.

Langford is a great all-around player (not far off a Brayshaw clone), and his 2km result makes me feel better about his shitty 20m.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

FOS is so hard to rank for me. Can see the upside and tools in his game absolutely. But **** me he really has some bad moments, his kicking can look good on occasions but a lot of the time (even kicks that hit the mark are ****ing ugly) its terrible. Much like Draper he has pretty much no left foot, unlike Draper his kicking on his right really lacks penetration, lots of wobbly slow mungs, bordering on hospital passes in the AFL. Having said all that could be great and my queries will look stupid in 3 years, bit of Dangerfield about him minus that true breakaway speed.

Hope someone takes him before us so its not a decision we have to make honestly.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Danger is the high end comp but you know the other player he REALLY reminds me of.... Elijah Tsatas...that would be the low end comp.

I fell in love with Tsatas tools in his draft year and ended up being wrong. So maybe that's why I'm swinging the other way on FOS now.

 

[new to this]

Just watched the highlights again of a few and I’m on the Langford train at 5.

 

[Fork n Hell]

FOS is so hard to rank for me. Can see the upside and tools in his game absolutely. But **** me he really has some bad moments, his kicking can look good on occasions but a lot of the time (even kicks that hit the mark are ****ing ugly) its terrible. Much like Draper he has pretty much no left foot, unlike Draper his kicking on his right really lacks penetration, lots of wobbly slow mungs, bordering on hospital passes in the AFL. Having said all that could be great and my queries will look stupid in 3 years, bit of Dangerfield about him minus that true breakaway speed.

Hope someone takes him before us so its not a decision we have to make honestly.

i agree, i've never really liked FOS. his kicking put me off him straight away, and it was similar story for Smith as well though not as bad.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

and it was similar story for Smith as well though not as bad.

Quite a few people said that initially about Smith also. I think you may have just caught a bad game from Smith. Hes certainly not the player who is going to wow you with bullet passes, but hes a perfectly fine kick in the majority of games I watched. Not quite as good as Reid but similar to where hes creative and puts it to his targets advantage, hes good at weighting his kicks.

 

[Crusty Demon]

That's why this isn't a super draft. Every top end kid has some big flaws, maybe except for Ashcroft. It bats deep though. I guess it comes down to how confident the club feels it can improve the flaw. Hard to drastically improve speed, but skills can be worked on.

 

[wingersclub]

Danger is the high end comp but you know the other player he REALLY reminds me of.... Elijah Tsatas...that would be the low end comp.

I fell in love with Tsatas tools in his draft year and ended up being wrong. So maybe that's why I'm swinging the other way on FOS now.

In 2019 I wanted us to draft Kemp whoops
But I wanted us to also draft Curnow instead of Weids

 

[Grimey Sylvia]

I'd go Langford over FOS at this point.

But unsure how much injury impacted FOS year this year.

Langford is a great all-around player (not far off a Brayshaw clone), and his 2km result makes me feel better about his shitty 20m.

Langford's 20m was slow but doesn't look it in his highlights as he is always in motion around stoppages ala Cripps/Bont who both often explode out of a stoppage looking quicker than they are. Also has a nice little side step like Pendles, uses the long arms to keep ball out of the tackle, good technique.

Reckon Langford is just slow on first step but mid-top end speed is ok. Wish they recorded each player's top speed in the 20m sprint, it would tell you a bit more as over 20m it is all about reaction and first step which you kind of get from the ability test anyway.

Some players have a great 20m sprint but don't look that quick in games when out into the open as their top speed isn't that good. Guys like Windsor, Wilson and Holmes really show their speed in games, not a 20m test.

 

[Scythe94]

Listening to North's recruiting manager, I reckon they take FOS.

No to Tauru at 5*, please. A third tall with iffy disposal who'll also be a massive developmental project is the last thing we need.

Hope the kid has a great career, he's certainly a talent. But not for us.

 

[Topkent]

Listening to North's recruiting manager, I reckon they take FOS.

No to Tauru at 5*, please. A third tall with iffy disposal who'll also be a massive developmental project is the last thing we need.

Hope the kid has a great career, he's certainly a talent. But not for us.

Mate he'd wanna be the next guaranteed Tom Stewart who's so good as a 3rd tall teams tag him or else why the ****

 

[Scythe94]

Mate he'd wanna be the next guaranteed Tom Stewart who's so good as a 3rd tall teams tag him or else why the ****

I bet if we take him, we'll try to turn him into a forward lol. Just yuck.

 

[Headless]

I just hope everybody has a nice draft night.

 

[Scythe94]

Dave Misson sighting on Gettable

 

[Scythe94]

Anyway, I'll throw out my final preference list (for us, not necessarily who I think will have the best career).

1. Smith
2. Draper (can barely split him and Smith, Smith just a bit more of a sure thing)
3. Langford
4. Lalor
5. O'Sullivan
6. Lindsay
7. Reid
8. Hotton
9. Allan
10. Tauru
11. Berry
12. Travaglia
13. Smillie
14. Shanahan
15. Armstrong
16. Hannaford
17. Trainor
18. Hynes
19. Dattoli
20. J Whitlock

 

[Crusty Demon]

Anyway, I'll throw out my final preference list (for us, not necessarily who I think will have the best career).

1. Smith
2. Draper (can barely split him and Smith, Smith just a bit more of a sure thing)
3. Langford
4. Lalor
5. O'Sullivan
6. Lindsay
7. Reid
8. Hotton
9. Allan
10. Tauru
11. Berry
12. Travaglia
13. Smillie
14. Shanahan
15. Armstrong
16. Hannaford
17. Trainor
18. Hynes
19. Dattoli
20. J Whitlock

The more i see of Lindsay the more i like

 

[Andy_Mac]

Anyway, I'll throw out my final preference list (for us, not necessarily who I think will have the best career).

1. Smith
2. Draper (can barely split him and Smith, Smith just a bit more of a sure thing)
3. Langford
4. Lalor
5. O'Sullivan
6. Lindsay
7. Reid
8. Hotton
9. Allan
10. Tauru
11. Berry
12. Travaglia
13. Smillie
14. Shanahan
15. Armstrong
16. Hannaford
17. Trainor
18. Hynes
19. Dattoli
20. J Whitlock

Good list. My preference is as follows:

1. Draper
2. Langford
3. Smith
4. FOS
5. Lalor
6. Smillie
7. Tauru
8. Ried
9. Allan
10. Lindsay

 

[Scythe94]

The more i see of Lindsay the more i like

Yeah, he's pretty rock solid. Would be happy with him at 9*.