That's why I never did a hamstring smooth .Gee as I remembered it Roar I thought you had "Pace to Freeze"? but that was just my perception!!
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Hahaha Yeah oops, my bad WILTY!! But as the saying goes, "your 1 of the boys"....Smooth....on a roll boys and girls.... just a small oversight I'm sure??
Get a room .Hahaha Yeah oops, my bad WILTY!! But as the saying goes, "your 1 of the boys"....
Hahahaha Says YOU!!!!
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I think the rule can work. BUT it should be an option for clubs, not forced on them. If a club wants to take advantage of the rule and play 3 and a sub on the bench thats fine, if another doesnt want to use the sun then they just have 3 on the bench. It a decision each club can make themselves.
As for juniors not wanting to play seniors im not convinced why. Over the last 5 year ive been involved at 2 different clubs in the same division. At one club i had to plead and plead with the juniors to play seniors, at the other ive had the kids plead and plead with me to play them in the seniors. Dont know if there is a definate answer to keeping them playing or keeping them interested. But i agree with Roar, we do need to do something about retaining junior playeers
As for juniors not wanting to play seniors im not convinced why. Over the last 5 year ive been involved at 2 different clubs in the same division. At one club i had to plead and plead with the juniors to play seniors, at the other ive had the kids plead and plead with me to play them in the seniors. Dont know if there is a definate answer to keeping them playing or keeping them interested. But i agree with Roar, we do need to do something about retaining junior playeers
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I hope u mean Roar was just running around in general PA, as he DEFINITELY wasn't running around in the 3rds 10-12 years ago!! Maybe if you put another zero after those numbers thats probably when Roar was playing 3rds!!
Also with the bye situation I think both leagues should have an extra bye whether the clubs like it or not, the board should just bring that in mandatory & to keep the Grand Finals both on saturdays but apart just start the leagues a week apart also & alternate yearly who starts 1st & 2nd!! Another "No Brainer"? We're on a roll here boys....
Smooth, i meant Roar just running around in general, defiantly wasn't playing 3rds, could say more at end of carrier
The Grand Finals should be played on Saturdays a week apart, much better then Sunday games.
Great to see so much discussion on the topic with the sub, be interesting to see what all clubs around the league think of the idea, if they are for or against it.
So we are talking 80's 90'sSmooth, i meant Roar just running around in general, defiantly wasn't playing 3rds, could say more at end of carrier
The Grand Finals should be played on Saturdays a week apart, much better then Sunday games.
Great to see so much discussion on the topic with the sub, be interesting to see what all clubs around the league think of the idea, if they are for or against it.
The first time .What when u retired?? Yeah something of that era!!
MrCopezz
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just to relight the flame! the league is now voting on having the sub rule OR just 4 on the bench. either way we are now getting 22 players!
Wrong , you need to check your facts before posting in correct material upon public forums .
wouldIlietoyou
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Are you trying to trouble make Mccopezz?? Want a fire okay....
I hope our clubs have the good sense to pass the junior sub rule and not be like Mccopezz and say hey let's just have four on the bench instead.
I am passionate about this and as someone who has put her money where her mouth is re our league juniors I hope my comments get heard. I have team managed junior and senior teams often both together. I have seen junior players get disheartened when they don't get a chance to play seniors then lose the desire to play seniors, I have seen players contemplate not playing the next year as they didnt think they were up to it, I have seen players who maybe would have got further if senior coaches had of picked them in senior teams more often, I have also seen juniors get thrown in the deep end because all of a sudden there is a numbers problem and the kid is all of a sudden needed only for me to then witness that coach going off at the end of the game because the kid played like a kid. I have lost count of how many kids i have sat down with to convince them they are good enough to play on in seniors. one advantage being female on the bench is players or their parents feel they can tell me their fears hoping i can help. So i know this is a bit of a problem.I could go on...
copezz you don't see the bigger picture only what might work best for your team or senior players. You think don't change what isn't broke yet you don't see that it may very well work so much better. It is so maddening to be honest to read your arguments.
I hope it's ok with our former JDO but I think now is the time to say..
Wilty was the one who saw an urgent need to put an extra effort into JD a few years back and thankfully after a fairly long search found someone to start it off, despite people telling them it wasn't needed they progressed. Wilty who in her usual fashion cracked it over how inefficient our junior interleague was. Thankfully its so much better now, thanks to Shane and those who helped. Wilty also anonymously sponsored the program to get it off to a good start. We now have more kids trying out for rep teams, clubs improving their own JD with the help of league JDO. we now have two jDO's one for each side of the league which I never thought would happen. Thanks to Danny Clarke and Shannon Laidlaw by the way hadnt had chance to thank them. I'm not saying this for credit as I don't want that I want people to see I truly mean all this and do have very much a big picture view and a feel for what is needed and prepared to do whatever it takes not just talk on here.
The junior sub rule is a great one and the Board should be applauded for thinking of it. No I had no input into it but knew as soon as I read it on here it was a winner. if we don't do it I bet you other leagues will and we will regret not taking the initiative when we had the chance.
There are so many great reasons to have the junior sub rule I hope our clubs have the sense to see that.
I hope our clubs have the good sense to pass the junior sub rule and not be like Mccopezz and say hey let's just have four on the bench instead.
I am passionate about this and as someone who has put her money where her mouth is re our league juniors I hope my comments get heard. I have team managed junior and senior teams often both together. I have seen junior players get disheartened when they don't get a chance to play seniors then lose the desire to play seniors, I have seen players contemplate not playing the next year as they didnt think they were up to it, I have seen players who maybe would have got further if senior coaches had of picked them in senior teams more often, I have also seen juniors get thrown in the deep end because all of a sudden there is a numbers problem and the kid is all of a sudden needed only for me to then witness that coach going off at the end of the game because the kid played like a kid. I have lost count of how many kids i have sat down with to convince them they are good enough to play on in seniors. one advantage being female on the bench is players or their parents feel they can tell me their fears hoping i can help. So i know this is a bit of a problem.I could go on...
copezz you don't see the bigger picture only what might work best for your team or senior players. You think don't change what isn't broke yet you don't see that it may very well work so much better. It is so maddening to be honest to read your arguments.
I hope it's ok with our former JDO but I think now is the time to say..
Wilty was the one who saw an urgent need to put an extra effort into JD a few years back and thankfully after a fairly long search found someone to start it off, despite people telling them it wasn't needed they progressed. Wilty who in her usual fashion cracked it over how inefficient our junior interleague was. Thankfully its so much better now, thanks to Shane and those who helped. Wilty also anonymously sponsored the program to get it off to a good start. We now have more kids trying out for rep teams, clubs improving their own JD with the help of league JDO. we now have two jDO's one for each side of the league which I never thought would happen. Thanks to Danny Clarke and Shannon Laidlaw by the way hadnt had chance to thank them. I'm not saying this for credit as I don't want that I want people to see I truly mean all this and do have very much a big picture view and a feel for what is needed and prepared to do whatever it takes not just talk on here.
The junior sub rule is a great one and the Board should be applauded for thinking of it. No I had no input into it but knew as soon as I read it on here it was a winner. if we don't do it I bet you other leagues will and we will regret not taking the initiative when we had the chance.
There are so many great reasons to have the junior sub rule I hope our clubs have the sense to see that.
MrCopezz
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Well if you read through the forum I was told I was wrong about the SUB player being restricted to a U17's player, Yet I was right... Now I think I have a valuable source and what I'm saying is. clubs will vote at a league meeting To decide weather or not it will be the 'Sub rule' that we speak so passionately about, or 22 players on the bench, one or the other will be brought into our competition...
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No you were wrong previously.. You said for the under 17 sub to Participate a senior player had to come off you were corrected as the rule doesn't state age of player to be subbed out. Could very well be another under 17 player. So yeah you were wrong. You are even wrong with the above it has always been the case that the sub be restricted to an under 17s player that is the whole point of the rule!!
Bringing in a 4 man bench will achieve nothing for junior development. Will most likely just have clubs go out and buy another player to try and get that advantage to win a flag. If you think it will help that 19 year old sorry to tell you but I doubt it very much.
It's a shame you just refuse to see the good in the junior sub rule.
Now your argument against my points beside being a tad sarcastic about my talking passionately is what exactly??
Convince me a 4 man bench is a better option.....
MrCopezz
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YES another u17s player could be subbed out, but anyone with half a brain would know, that under 17s player would be apart of the 21 senior squad there for a senior player on the team sheet.
in regards to to a 4 man bench; i just stated what i have heard is going on? which is if the Sub rule does not get the nod, a 4 man bench will Definatly be coming into the competition, <--IS THIS WRONG? i think you are just looking for a debate?
As for junior development, (not my opinion) but maybe some clubs just aren't developing young blokes as good as other clubs? I know the team I'll be playing in saturday will contain around 8 - 12 players that have come through our juniors? thats not a bad effort?
You are wrong again and my source is alot more reliable than yours .
MrCopezz
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feel free to elaborate?
Yes .
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My point was you were never told you were wrong about the SUB being restricted to an Under 17s player as that was the point of the rule. You were told you were wrong about a senior player being subbed off as the rule doesnt state age. Its a fine point of difference, had you seen the rule? The rule may have stated that he couldnt replace another Under 17 age player?? So maybe thats why clarification was made.
As for if the league is voting for a 4 man bench... personally I dont know if its wrong and I suspect that neither do you for sure. But bear in mind the person that corrected you before has corrected you now.
I am concerned though that if it is being talked about that people will be like yourself and only see the benefit of a senior age extra on the bench, not realising that down the track it will lead to more $$$ being spent on senior players, and an excellent opportunity may be lost. Hence my argument for the junior sub rule. If the junior sub rule doesnt get through, stay with 21 players.
You were the one who said you wanted to reignite the flame??? Is that not asking for a debate??
MrCopezz
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OMG, I said a senior player (if you have even a quarter of a brain you'll know this means the starting 21 regardless of age) has to be 'Subbed' off in order to put the u17s sub on... so i was right on that one...
now back to the 4 man bench. how is that wrong? and tell me whats right?
now back to the 4 man bench. how is that wrong? and tell me whats right?
wouldIlietoyou
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Again I will say this slowly.... The rule could have stated that the sub coming on could not replace an under 17 age player already on the field?? Rules can say anything and be complex. when you stated senior player it was merely said that you were not quite right that it was any age player. As an example under 17 age players have special rules so they can play as many senior games as needed and not be disqualified from Playing under 17s finals not the same for say a senior age reserve player playing seniors is it???
I have already stated all my reasons for the junior sub and against the 4 man bench. Stop stalling!!
I have already stated all my reasons for the junior sub and against the 4 man bench. Stop stalling!!
Here's a bet , if you are proven wrong you shall accept and admitt your are wrong without further detail .
Reveal your true identity within your signature and state something positive upon here everyday for the next 12 months about the PDNFL.
You are not to repeat yourself and must say something positive every Friday about the league junior development officers and /or the junior development program .
If I am the one proven wrong I shall do the above .
Deal ?
MrCopezz
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YES, but he is a senior player, because he wasnt the sub, badluck
So let me get this right? you want me to reveal my "Identity" because i dont agree with you? and that i personally dont like the proposed sub rule? or becasue i stated there will be a 4 man bench if there is no sub rule?
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