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I think Bartel can increase his scores from the 09 season, most players increased their scores due to the higher possession footy and more tackles. Bartel decreased his score from 113 so he could have potential to increase on 113, but his hay days may be over although still young

days may be over? The 2007 brownlow medalist? I think jimmy's scores suffered a little due to being played a little more in the back half. Will that trend continue is the question. Pre season as always is the answer, but I see more potential upside in Jimmy than Swan or Ablett.
 
I think these 2 are really hard to choice from, neither player is yet to play a full season. Higgins seems to be very injury prone while Sylvia would not take much to get suspended been he would not have much points left since he got 3 weeks last year. I think both players will improve next year but I think Higgins is the safer option because he is less likely to get tagged because the Bulldogs have other players like Cooney, Gilbee, etc who are going to get the tag before him i think. While i can see Sylvia getting a tag and if he does step it up he is only going to get more attention from othe teams and i am not sure how he will handle it. I think both are a risky pick since they are yet to play a full season and you are playing big $$$ to get them in your team. I am picking Higgins since he is less likley to get the tag i beleive and been surrounded by a good side normally means the team will do better in dt.

Pavlich v O'Keefe
It may sound bias, but definitely Pavlich. He's about 20k cheaper than O'Keefe and I'm confident he finish up with a lot more points than O'Keefe. While they are both extremely durable (possibly the two most durable players in the comp) I would think that Pavlich's move back to the forward line will see his price go through the roof.
I also think that O'Keefe is a bit overpriced due to his one big score last year.

Pavlich is also about a year younger. :):thumbsu:
 
It may sound bias, but definitely Pavlich. He's about 20k cheaper than O'Keefe and I'm confident he finish up with a lot more points than O'Keefe. While they are both extremely durable (possibly the two most durable players in the comp) I would think that Pavlich's move back to the forward line will see his price go through the roof.
I also think that O'Keefe is a bit overpriced due to his one big score last year.

Pavlich is also about a year younger. :):thumbsu:

He may be a year younger, but I have question marks on his durability. Sore knees (from carrying Freo on his back for most of the decade) are an injury that will hinder, but a move to the forward line will probably help. Problem is I see Freo in the bottom 4 again this year, which will stifle his scores. OKeefe I like at this stage, if his midfield move from last season continues, I see him as a great forward option (not do good if he is midfield only).
 

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It may sound bias, but definitely Pavlich. He's about 20k cheaper than O'Keefe and I'm confident he finish up with a lot more points than O'Keefe. While they are both extremely durable (possibly the two most durable players in the comp) I would think that Pavlich's move back to the forward line will see his price go through the roof.
I also think that O'Keefe is a bit overpriced due to his one big score last year.

Pavlich is also about a year younger. :):thumbsu:

So players that both missed games this year are the two most durable? Think it is 7 eyars now that Kane Cornes hasn't missed a game :) They are durable, but lets not go over the top :)
 
He may be a year younger, but I have question marks on his durability. Sore knees (from carrying Freo on his back for most of the decade) are an injury that will hinder, but a move to the forward line will probably help. Problem is I see Freo in the bottom 4 again this year, which will stifle his scores. OKeefe I like at this stage, if his midfield move from last season continues, I see him as a great forward option (not do good if he is midfield only).
C'mon. The Swan are on the decline. I'm sure Fremantle will finish ahead of them.
 
So players that both missed games this year are the two most durable? Think it is 7 eyars now that Kane Cornes hasn't missed a game :) They are durable, but lets not go over the top :)
Pavlich played 160 consecutive games. Kornes hasn't quite got there so lets not go over the top :)
 
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I thought O'Keefe had a few high scores last year and the fanfooty website has his average at 96. If durable means playing most games O'Keefe is durable.

What about Ben McGlynn vs Paul Medhurst
 
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I thought O'Keefe had a few high scores last year and the fanfooty website has his average at 96. If durable means playing most games O'Keefe is durable.

What about Ben McGlynn vs Paul Medhurst
imo. ben mcglyn just because paul medhurst is becoming old and is having a very interupted pre season from what i have heard. i beleive that the sydney game style will suit mglyn as it will allow him to play a kirk sort of role which involves lots of tackles which he loves.

wat about trent cotchin vs mark mcviegh
 
Thanks for the reply's:thumbsu: I think Pav v O'Keefe is really hard to choose from since they are both so constant dters and both are very durable, i think atm i would pick Pav just because his a bit cheaper.

Since no1 has put up another one i will ask another. Adcock v Fisher v Shaw rank. I think its really hard to choice these 3 since they all had around the same average and all have some "for" and "against".
 
Thanks for the reply's:thumbsu: I think Pav v O'Keefe is really hard to choose from since they are both so constant dters and both are very durable, i think atm i would pick Pav just because his a bit cheaper.

Since no1 has put up another one i will ask another. Adcock v Fisher v Shaw rank. I think its really hard to choice these 3 since they all had around the same average and all have some "for" and "against".

not being a smart arse but i did ask a question
 

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I'll be blunt I am not interested in Cotchin yet. He is a smooth player and will definitely be great for Richmond but too fragile for DT yet. In a year or two. I have never considered McVeigh because he gets some odd roles and has quiet games.

Adcock vs Fisher vs Shaw.

I have a grudge against Sam Fisher for my own reasons related to DT 09.

1 Shaw - good rebounder, good scorer
2 Fisher - went missing in a lot of games - Gilbert was better
3 Adcock - natural DT scorer, not that durable.

I could argue the exact opposite too!
 
Thanks for the reply's:thumbsu: I think Pav v O'Keefe is really hard to choose from since they are both so constant dters and both are very durable, i think atm i would pick Pav just because his a bit cheaper.

Since no1 has put up another one i will ask another. Adcock v Fisher v Shaw rank. I think its really hard to choice these 3 since they all had around the same average and all have some "for" and "against".

Fisher had more responsibility this year and with Max gone it isn't going to get any better (although Max didn't play too much anyway), so I think he'll still have those games where he scores 50-60. But he is durable and should average 85 again IMO. Gilbert has kind of taken his role and I see him taking the points from Fisher again next year.

Shaw improved a lot as a player IMO this year, but not as much in DT. He isn't copping tags as much anymore though and he did average 88 in his last 8 H&A games. Plus he became a lot more consistent. So he is getting less attention, dealing with tags better when he gets them and is improving so I can't see why he can't average 90+ next season.

Adcock has positives, but I'm unsure about his injury and I think durability is cruicial so I've taken him out of contention for me.

It might be biased, but I see more upside in Shaw than I do in Fisher so I'd go with Shaw, then Fisher, then Adcock.

I see Mitchell has a question, so:
Cotchin vs M.McVeigh?
 
not being a smart arse but i did ask a question
Sorry, when i was making my post you had not yet done yours. To answer your question RE: Cotchin v McVeigh.

I had both in my team but currently i have taken Cotchin out for Palmer since Cotchin is still not doing full training and Palmer is cheaper. If i remember correctly, McVeigh missed out on a full pre season due to a knee injury which also kept him out for some games in the season. I am hoping his scores last year were due to him not be fully fit and maybe not fully recovered and i hope with a full pre season he will get back to his 08 form. His about 30k cheaper then Cotchin.

But the looking into McVeigh i do, the more and more i seem to get put off by him. Only 2 seasons he has averaged 80+, his going to miss a week from suspension to start the season, has not played 22 games since 2003 and maybe a different role as well.

Both have a bit against them which makes it very hard to choose who to take
 
Pavlich vs Okeffe

Well i prefer Pavlich, he has more upside, freo cant go any further backwards than where their at, their improving hopefully his scores improve aswell. I would really think hes a great pick if hes playing more as that permanent forward. I think he can avg over 100 in 2010. Okeffe is very reliable and durable aswell, i would rate Okeffe better durability than PAV but i see a higher upside in Pavs scoring due to an improved side and role change (hopefully). If Okeffe looks like he will play more midfield than that could change my mind.

Fisher vs Shaw vs Adcock

Well Fisher is in all my plan sides, im expecting at the least an 85 avg and also expect the durable 20-22 games if not 22. The against for him is something i didnt consider, i remember he did go missing a bit, and he only seemed to score real well, when lose man in defence. However i think the saints seemed to be using Blake as their CHB defender especially through finals, would be interesting to see how Fisher scored in finals.

Shaw i havnt really considered and thats why i hate planning my sides, im not open to other players as i seem to settle for certain players. Im scared of that 08 year when he got tagged, theirs no indication to me that clubs wont continue to look to limit his impact on games. Hes a rebounding defender and creates are lot of attack for the pies hes their best running back by a mile and if i was an oppo club i would look to take him out of the game first.

Adcock, well he has the potential to go to another step but im not sure if he can play 20+ games. His avg is down by 6 due to a score affected by injury so already he has a 6 point improvment + the possibility he could go to another level. Durability as said is so important and even more in backline it has been shown.

I would go Fisher, but i might be a little bias as hes in my plan teams.

Mcveigh vs Cotchin
They both have the same durability problems so that isnt a factor. Mcevigh is missing round 1 but theirs no likley hood that Cotchin might be ready for round 1. We know that pre seasons are so important a player with little pre season struggles and its almost a golden rule. Their scoring potential for the next year well i think its the same they can both get 80-85 avg but i see more chance of Mcveigh getting that avg due to him already proving he can avg this or more.
 
Hey boys, im also facing the same questions. Mcveigh looks hard to pass up at that price,but he's always getting susp for whacking blokes but is having a good PS which is a bonus. Cotchin is a purely" Potential "pick at least mcveigh has the runs on the board. But yeah both have risk:confused:
 
Pavlich vs Okeffe

Well i prefer Pavlich, he has more upside, freo cant go any further backwards than where their at, their improving hopefully his scores improve aswell. I would really think hes a great pick if hes playing more as that permanent forward. I think he can avg over 100 in 2010. Okeffe is very reliable and durable aswell, i would rate Okeffe better durability than PAV but i see a higher upside in Pavs scoring due to an improved side and role change (hopefully). If Okeffe looks like he will play more midfield than that could change my mind.

Fisher vs Shaw vs Adcock

Well Fisher is in all my plan sides, im expecting at the least an 85 avg and also expect the durable 20-22 games if not 22. The against for him is something i didnt consider, i remember he did go missing a bit, and he only seemed to score real well, when lose man in defence. However i think the saints seemed to be using Blake as their CHB defender especially through finals, would be interesting to see how Fisher scored in finals.

Shaw i havnt really considered and thats why i hate planning my sides, im not open to other players as i seem to settle for certain players. Im scared of that 08 year when he got tagged, theirs no indication to me that clubs wont continue to look to limit his impact on games. Hes a rebounding defender and creates are lot of attack for the pies hes their best running back by a mile and if i was an oppo club i would look to take him out of the game first.

Adcock, well he has the potential to go to another step but im not sure if he can play 20+ games. His avg is down by 6 due to a score affected by injury so already he has a 6 point improvment + the possibility he could go to another level. Durability as said is so important and even more in backline it has been shown.

I would go Fisher, but i might be a little bias as hes in my plan teams.

Mcveigh vs Cotchin
They both have the same durability problems so that isnt a factor. Mcevigh is missing round 1 but theirs no likley hood that Cotchin might be ready for round 1. We know that pre seasons are so important a player with little pre season struggles and its almost a golden rule. Their scoring potential for the next year well i think its the same they can both get 80-85 avg but i see more chance of Mcveigh getting that avg due to him already proving he can avg this or more.

I am not sure if you are kidding about Fisher in finals? He scored 150+ in a final.

Fisher is not of much interest to me he's steady but that's it his improvement is behind him. Depends who else is a back.

What about Bernie Vince vs Jimmy Bartel?
 
I would go with McVeigh, Cotchin has the potential to be a good buy but too many injury problems for my liking, i would want to see him go trough a season unscathed before getting on him.

DWD as I remeber in the Saints qualifying final against Collingwood Fisher was playing as a loose man and he picked 40+ possesions with lots of marks also.
 
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