Players weights to no longer be disclosed

[elbarton]

I cannot imagine why you are on BigFooty then. We spend all of our time on here diving down mostly unimportant rabbit holes discussing incredibly minute details about players, rules, innate workings of clubs, football history, strategies on and off the field. If you just want the culturally filtered basics and generic quotes, try the Herald or the West.

Absolutely. And of those topics, there are about 1,000 more things more interesting and relevant to discuss, analyse and evaluate. When was the last time that weight was germane to an interesting discussion? I have been on this forum for 20 years and can’t remember a single occasion where a thread relying on this statistic has been heavily trafficked.

 

[Jugada]

Easy thread to spot the keyboard chunky's

 

[Big Animal]

Absolutely. And of those topics, there are about 1,000 more things more interesting and relevant to discuss, analyse and evaluate. When was the last time that weight was germane to an interesting discussion? I have been on this forum for 20 years and can’t remember a single occasion where a thread relying on this statistic has been heavily trafficked.

what rubbish. Every year on our board the weights of potential draftees are mentioned, we discuss draftees weights and the second and third years how they may have grown in size (i.e. weight changes) and that of the skinny talls as they 'grow into their body' to be able to handle the rigors of a 23 week season against grown men. I can't remember a year when weights weren't discussed.

 

[Mcarcherey]

If you have two eyes and a mouth you can fat shame anything you can see.

The moon? That ***** must be pregnant lmao. Bananaby? Neck watch, anyone seen his? Albo? Just a matter of time, fatties always lapse. The ocean? Yeah, its global warming not your appetite for trash.

Relying on the league to tell you who is fat is some beta cuck level incel bulldust. Get out there, look at the players at training "uh oh mummy AFL didn't tell me who to bully woe is I". This zoomer generation is lazy AF smh frfr not bussin'.

"No real argument for it" lol there's no argument for any of those bulldust stats. Star signs have already been mentioned, players used to fill in profiles in the footy record, and the answers were always "spag bol, OJ/beer, Magnum PI, Farrah Fawcett and Paul Hogan". Maybe all the weightcels want those "facts" published too?

So much pearl clutching.

there are plent of arguements, why don't you actaully rebut a specific one.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

It is a handy objective measure to help gauge how far rookies’ bodies are from being able to withstand the rigours of afl level footy.

Since when have players' weights been accurately documented anyway?

I mean, do we really think Tom Hawkins weighs 105kgs? His left leg would weigh that.

I reckon they weigh players when they first arrive at a club, and maybe for the first year or two, then they either just guess or don't even bother to update it as no one gives the slightest shit.

 

[Vikingnz]

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is against the change so it must be a good thing.

 

[elbarton]

what rubbish. Every year on our board the weights of potential draftees are mentioned, we discuss draftees weights and the second and third years how they may have grown in size (i.e. weight changes) and that of the skinny talls as they 'grow into their body' to be able to handle the rigors of a 23 week season against grown men. I can't remember a year when weights weren't discussed.

All of which can easily, and more meaningfully I’d argue, be discerned by the eye test. Body composition clearly being more relevant to athletic performance than crude weight figures.

 

[Jugada]

All of which can easily, and more meaningfully I’d argue, be discerned by the eye test. Body composition clearly being more relevant to athletic performance than crude weight figures.

Lol would be an absolutely terrible argument. Who needs an actual reliable metric that is easily available when you can go with the far more scientific route of a quick vibe of the eye test

 

[Jugada]

No one is actually saying that published weights is in the top echelon of meaningful data. It only has some small amount of relevance in the grand scheme of things but it's why it's actually being removed from an elite level sport that is the completely wrong precedent to be setting

 

[Cyclops]

there are plent of arguements, why don't you actaully rebut a specific one.

No. There is no reason to fret. It was a non stat.

Did you see the "captains rank their heights" video the AFL put out? Most of the captains did not know any of one another's height (Moore and Witts are former team mates), they had a rough idea. Knowing player's exact heights isn't necessary to PLAY AFL, let alone watch it.

Weight is even fuzzier. Player's weight bounces around in the course of a day, week, month and season. Given the variety of builds it tells a viewer very little about a player's fitness.

This is in my view a meaningless debate about a fringe to irrelevant stat, the sort of thing our US mates love, and gamblers use to convince themselves they're smart as the get milked by the bookies.

Are people upset because they want see little boxes on the screen with little numbers and animations like in the US? Maybe stick to joke sports like boxing NBA and NFL.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

No. There is no reason to fret. It was a non stat.

Did you see the "captains rank their heights" video the AFL put out? Most of the captains did not know any of one another's height (Moore and Witts are former team mates), they had a rough idea. Knowing player's exact heights isn't necessary to PLAY AFL, let alone watch it.

Weight is even fuzzier. Player's weight bounces around in the course of a day, week, month and season. Given the variety of builds it tells a viewer very little about a player's fitness.

This is in my view a meaningless debate about a fringe to irrelevant stat, the sort of thing our US mates love, and gamblers use to convince themselves they're smart as the get milked by the bookies.

Are people upset because they want see little boxes on the screen with little numbers and animations like in the US? Maybe stick to joke sports like boxing NBA and NFL.

I think we've finally reached rock bottom of modern humanity with that post, hopefully it's the turning point

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[Lavender Bushranger]

The height and weight of a player is vital knowledge to know during a game when the coach puts a bloke on another player who is 10kgs lighter?

So the coach refers to the footy record for his players' heights and weights before making positional changes?

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Does anyone else think this has the whiff of a Laura Kane decision with a subconscious female bias for the AFLW? She can't politically do it for the women's game only, so she needs to do it across both leagues. I can see more AFLW players finding it concerning (particularly the "overweight" ones) moreso than AFL players.

Coincidence this comes out the first time we have a female leading the football side of the game or is this driven elsewhere?

Of course that's why they've done it.

Except it's not unconscious bias - it's blatantly obvious that they did it because they don't want to publicise AFLW players' weights.

Not rocket science.

 

[elbarton]

So the coach refers to the footy record for his players' heights and weights before making positional changes?

The countdown is on for Bevo putting Caleb Daniel on Tomahawk now that we have no idea whatsoever how much these guys weigh.

 

[JackFlash]

So the coach refers to the footy record for his players' heights and weights before making positional changes?

The average supporter would like to know if a coach puts a 93kg bloke on 103kgs of Tom Hawkins!

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

There are already countless arguments in this thread why it should be kept, are you going to rebut them or not?

I haven't read a decent one though.

To be honest, I don't see a decent reason to remove them either though.


But surely a player's weight, which has been taken at some mystery point in time, and is not regularly updated, is one of the most useless nuggets of information there is.

Being 10kgs heavier than someone else doesn't make you stronger, doesn't make you slower, and doesn't make you better or worse. It offers no insight into a player's strength in a contest, or any other aspect of playing footy.


Aside from the obvious fact that it's not accurate, it offers absolutely zero in terms of insight in a footballing sense.

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

This change will be forever known as the Hawkins/Perkins rule. Or Porkins for short.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

The average supporter would like to know if a coach puts a 93kg bloke on 103kgs of Tom Hawkins!

Firstly, the Footy Record weight stat won't tell you that. It will tell you a weight that each player probably weighed at some point in their career. AFL players can lose up to 3-5kg during a game anyway.

It's not accurate. If you're relying on the Footy Record for this data - you're an idiot.

Secondly, a player's weight is probably 4th or 5th in line in terms of importance in any footy contest. Experience, technique, core strength, effort, balance and smarts all are more important than weight. Weight alone, without factoring in weight distribution is just completely meaningless.

People beating their chests about being footy nerds because they look at a player's weight in the Footy Record are really just showing their footy ignorance.

 

[Cyclops]

I think we've finally reached rock bottom of modern humanity with that post, hopefully it's the turning point

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I don't think your post is rock bottom. See the good in yourself. I do.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

No one is actually saying that published weights is in the top echelon of meaningful data. It only has some small amount of relevance in the grand scheme of things but it's why it's actually being removed from an elite level sport that is the completely wrong precedent to be setting

Let's just be honest here. We all know the 'weight' stat is borderline useless. It not being published is not the issue.

The issue is that some people see this as a 'woke' decision that has been made so as not to shame people about their weight.

That's why some people are outraged by it. It's seen as an ideological clash between the left and right.

Just admit it man. This whole 'I can't function without the incredibly important weight stat!' nonsense is just making you and others look stupid.

If it makes you upset that you perceive this as a win for the lefties, just say it.

 

[Cyclops]

Let's just be honest here. We all know the 'weight' stat is borderline useless. It not being published is not the issue.

The issue is that some people see this as a 'woke' decision that has been made so as not to shame people about their weight.

That's why some people are outraged by it. It's seen as an ideological clash between the left and right.

Just admit it man. This whole 'I can't function without the incredibly important weight stat!' nonsense is just making you and others look stupid.

If it makes you upset that you perceive this as a win for the lefties, just say it.

There we go, thats it.

It's quite likely the AFL has made this for some agenda, woke or coke driven or some other bulldust. They're pretty worthless but its hardly the worst thing they've done this decade. Or season. Or month.

The stat doesn't matter and we already knew they were ****s. If it was decided on the basis of faux outrage that has been trumped by the faux outraged ("fauxtraged"?) response. We are all less intelligent for having taken part in the debate, and I for one didn't have that much to work with going in. It's all a plot to make me dumber than I already was. Thx Obama.

 

[ash_1050]

Watch the snowflakes absolutely lose their minds at something that has absolutely no impact on their day to day life but benefits others.

 

[Andrew Mc]

They can report it, or not. We'll still be able to tell if someone is out of shape, or a fat ****. Although someone will probably object to that at some point.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

If it makes you upset that you perceive this as a win for the lefties, just say it.

Woke-washing is right wing, designed to deflect attention from the true evils, it's a win for the right

So much ignorance

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[Toump Ass]

Am I the only one who doesn't care if they publish a player's weight? I can tell if they're fat or not with my eyes.
If anyone wants to know if a player is fat or not just PM me and I'll let you know asap.