Players who are Becoming Huge at your club.

[Handsome.B.Wonderful]

Paul Turk (Essendon's 2IC for Strength) had similar ideas at North in 2006 when he successfully bulked up the entire team over the preseason.

Consequently we were outrun in every single game that year and finished 14th.

 

[Powered Up]

strange that people think Hamstring injuries increase because of size, when you consider Silvagni, Lloyd, Riewoldt and Kerr are the 4 players who ripped it of the bone yet are all very atheletic types.
From Port Hartlett is not huge, yet struggles to get a fair crack.

Would love to hear the thought as to why people relate Size to Hamstring injuries.
The biggest power forward I have seen play have hardly had hamstring trouble like Lockett, Ablett snr, Carey, Dunstal, Tredrea, Brown, Fev, Hall yet the 2 more atheletic ones in Lloyd and Riewold have had it rip from the bone.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Paul Turk (Essendon's 2IC for Strength) had similar ideas at North in 2006 when he successfully bulked up the entire team over the preseason.

Consequently we were outrun in every single game that year and finished 14th.

Dean Robinson had similar ideas with Geelong, but they were awesome and went on to win 3 out of 5 premierships.

Sure we could bomb out, but the fairly experienced coaching panel sees it as the right thing to. Last year we were overrun in a lot of games and dropped games to teams we shouldn't have because we were worn out later in the year. Dean Robinson is of the philosophy that we fatigued too much from contested situations and bulking up will allow us to perform more effectively for longer periods of time.

 

[bombermick]

It's good to see more size on Hurley, Pears and co, but I'm encouraged more by bigger frames on Colyer, Heppell and even Gumby.

Hurley was always going to be a man-mountain.

 

[bombermick]

strange that people think Hamstring injuries increase because of size, when you consider Silvagni, Lloyd, Riewoldt and Kerr are the 4 players who ripped it of the bone yet are all very atheletic types.
From Port Hartlett is not huge, yet struggles to get a fair crack.

Would love to hear the thought as to why people relate Size to Hamstring injuries.
The biggest power forward I have seen play have hardly had hamstring trouble like Lockett, Ablett snr, Carey, Dunstal, Tredrea, Brown, Fev, Hall yet the 2 more atheletic ones in Lloyd and Riewold have had it rip from the bone.

Good post. Any experts can confirm this, but aren't hammys a result of short bursts of power, rather than being too big?

 

[Powered Up]

Jared Polec has worked hard this pre-season. He came to us like this last year:

And rolls like this now:

He looks like a totally different person. Patty K has stacked it on, too:

Impressive, He looked excellent in SA a few years back, 1 to really keep a eye on I think.

 

[Powered Up]

Good post. Any experts can confirm this, but aren't hammys a result of short bursts of power, rather than being too big?

Not sure, but they tend to try and change running styles to prevent them, so maybe it is the angle of the feet putting more stress on the actual hamstring, or something along these lines. size has nothing to do with it.

 

[Dustin Credible]

Not sure... but the hamstrings are funny muscles as they flex the knee and extend the hip. (most other muscles act only at one joint)

You pull them when in effect you try to get them to do two things at once.

Wouldn't have thought size (bulk) had anything to do with it.

 

[BrownPearHookers]

I think it's more an issue of "too big, too quickly."

Some players naturally progress quicker than others.

Jacky Boy still looks like a fresh faced kid.

I shudder to think what he will do to opposition midfields when his nads finally drop.

Gun young footballer, but I can't believe this is his current size? He has lost muscle, I think he should dedicate himself to working harder in the gym to gain it back again.

 

[Old Skool]

Gun young footballer, but this can't be his current size could it? If so should dedicate himself to working harder in the gym.

The picture was taken last Thursday.

He's still only 20 and already a good size at 87kgs, and I imagine the bulk of his training revolves around endurance and rep work.

 

[Gibbo_88]

Everyone posting in this thread surely realises it doesn't matter if it looks like they have put on a stack of muscle? When the season starts the bulk drops off and they can't maintain all the muscle they put on in the pre-season because of all the recovery time they need. Happens every year...It's interesting to see how much the body shape of 1st-4th years change but after that it's usually only tiny differences.

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[Blue and Silver]

Something very homoerotic about this thread. Size does not really matter, I'd back Scarlett in a battle of strength over Josh Hunt and the latter looks much bigger.

Yeah pretty much this. Bulk =/= strength, tone does. Muscles that are well worked and have exceptional tone perform much better and more efficiently then bulky ones, which add weight to the frame and can cause more injuries. Most of the players with long careers were wirey

 

[cryptor]

Saw Zaharakis tonight up at the safeway I work. Wouldn't say he's "huge" but his arm and leg muscles are very defined at the moment (girls I work with were in awe of his biceps and calves haha). He carried 2 heavy shopping bags in each hand but he kind of looked like he was struggling with them a little bit. But he won't be carrying shopping bags around the MCG so not like it matters too much lol.

 

[cats2rise]

Jack Redpath for the Doggies already looks a unit and much bigger than 70% of the AFL...

 

[BigBroMike]

Most of Port's players still look skinny but apparently the squad has put on average weight of 4kg each. Sounds like a lot but go a day or 2 without eating and you'll lose 2kg straight away from water weight.

 

[Handsome.B.Wonderful]

Gun young footballer, but I can't believe this is his current size? He has lost muscle, I think he should dedicate himself to working harder in the gym to gain it back again.

He has actually trimmed down to increase his running capacity. At the beginning of last year he was way too big and struggled to run out games, it took him about 8 weeks to lean down enough to start getting 25-40 possies per game.

Ziebell is a 20 year old kid who has always been stronger than most AFL players even in his first 2 years. He has that "Voss like" quality where he seems to generate more brute force than anyone of similar size.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Gun young footballer, but I can't believe this is his current size? He has lost muscle, I think he should dedicate himself to working harder in the gym to gain it back again.

Having been to training recently, he is still built like a brick shithouse.

 

[the_interloper]

At Essendon I don't think i have ever seen so much size put on in 1 pre season, and was just wondering about players from your club who also are getting massive results in body shape over the current Pre Season.

Though he was always pretty big, he'd always come back from the off-season much bigger than when he finished the year:

 

[Slattery_20]

Though he was always pretty big, he'd always come back from the off-season much bigger than when he finished the year:

That's called dedication.

 

[Slattery_20]

In 2012 Josh Hunt will once again LOOK magnificent and Jimmy Bartel will once again PLAY magnificent.

In 2012 Shaun Hampson will once again LOOK magnificent and Kade Simpson will once again PLAY magnificent.

In 2012 that Yankee Basketballer will once again LOOK magnificent and Dane Swan will once again PLAY magnificent.

In 2012 Justin Koschitzke will once again LOOK magnificent and Justin Koschitzke will once again PLAY mag.....kinda like an unco.

Exactly.

Courtney Johns was king, president & holy roman emperor of the shirt-off pre-season training "ZOMG" photo threads. Means snuff all.
If someone really thinks Hocking or Hurley are physically not up to it I suggest they go watch a match. Both bulls.
Who gives a crap if they look bulky, it's January. They will be losing weight pretty much across the year.

 

[THRILLHO]

Hurley looks far too big at the moment, but I'm guessing they're working on the assumption that as his weights program decreases and his running program increases, he'll shed some weight and get to an optimal playing size.

 

[Hencho]

Looking at photos of guys in the gym is pointless. Any AFL player with a tan in the gym will all look massive.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Having been to training recently, he is still built like a brick shithouse.

And still is up there in bench pressing with blokes 10kg's heavier. Strong as an ox is Ziebell and still only 20. He is an old fashioned barrel chested type.

 

[Kong]

Yeah pretty much this. Bulk =/= strength, tone does. Muscles that are well worked and have exceptional tone perform much better and more efficiently then bulky ones

Haha, I'm sorry, but wherever you're getting this is way off.

"Tone" as you call it, is definition. Definition is caused by low body fat. It has absolutely nothing to do with different types of muscle, whatever that is.

So no, lower body fat doesn't "= strength", at all.

Strength is strength.

Size doesn't automatically "= strength" either, it's just very often a byproduct. On top of that, having more weight behind you allows you to exert more force, in a nutshell.

I also laugh at those calling Hurley fat.

 

[Jade]

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Yeah doesnt look like lean muscle he has there. Kreuzer, fev and buddy have all fallen in the trap of putting too much weight on and getting injured because they have to move all that extra weight.. hurley has just strained his hammy,,,,could be related.

A hammy is not a structural injury.

i agree with the gear quote aswell...espcially for heppell, being that young and transforming his body like that in a preseason..looks a bit iffy that he is that vascular. In saying that they are in the gym in those photos and are probably just showing the pump you get when working the muscle!

No one is that stupid in football nowadays.