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I found X/Y was really slow between the first and second gyms.
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Im pretty sure I had 8 or so hours between them.
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Had a quick snoop for the Rom without much luck...Ill wait till the game launches and get it.
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One thing I hated about Pokemon X/Y was that it handed everything on a platter...
For people who played this already, is this similar?
Also, the new pokemon/starters look ridiculous... but then. Ice-type Vulpix/Ninetales is all I've ever wanted in life. Why am I bought so easily.
For people who played this already, is this similar?
Also, the new pokemon/starters look ridiculous... but then. Ice-type Vulpix/Ninetales is all I've ever wanted in life. Why am I bought so easily.
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Probably the exp share is what made X/Y and Ruby/Sapphire so easy. Without them on it actually becomes a challenge.
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Might go through and try again, but I remember catching the legendary with a regular pokeball on the first try... think it was paralysed. It wasn't just the levelling up though, the trainers/gym leaders you'd meet all had very low level pokemon that couldn't take a hit. It got to the point where I could switch in all of my pokemon (for max XP) and then repeat until the next town. No potions needed.
Them going back to the Gen 5 EXP mechanics may provide more of a challenge because you might not be as over levelled or over powered as you could be in X and Y.
Turning off EXP Share makes things a bit tougher as well.
Turning off EXP Share makes things a bit tougher as well.
Does the EXP share work the same in SM as it did XY?
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I'm wanting to play Pokemon better. I'm hoping you can help me with a few questions.
When EV training to you guys keep a note book or spreadsheet to keep track of everything?
Do you generally play through the main game casually before you go back catch/breed/train competitive mons?
If you want to use your starter in your competitive team do you bank him right away or just breed more so you can use him.
Exp share shares EV's too? If so do you train with only the desired mons in your party?
Where can I look up desired IV/nature of mons so I can plan?
Not a question but party planning looks likes it's both very fun and super time consuming. I think for a casual noob a typical strategy might be best. Reading a few older articles and it turns out good players don't just spam flamethrower. Weird.
Any other advice you have would be great too.
When EV training to you guys keep a note book or spreadsheet to keep track of everything?
Do you generally play through the main game casually before you go back catch/breed/train competitive mons?
If you want to use your starter in your competitive team do you bank him right away or just breed more so you can use him.
Exp share shares EV's too? If so do you train with only the desired mons in your party?
Where can I look up desired IV/nature of mons so I can plan?
Not a question but party planning looks likes it's both very fun and super time consuming. I think for a casual noob a typical strategy might be best. Reading a few older articles and it turns out good players don't just spam flamethrower. Weird.
Any other advice you have would be great too.
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I'm wanting to play Pokemon better. I'm hoping you can help me with a few questions.
When EV training to you guys keep a note book or spreadsheet to keep track of everything?
Do you generally play through the main game casually before you go back catch/breed/train competitive mons?
If you want to use your starter in your competitive team do you bank him right away or just breed more so you can use him.
Exp share shares EV's too? If so do you train with only the desired mons in your party?
Where can I look up desired IV/nature of mons so I can plan?
Not a question but party planning looks likes it's both very fun and super time consuming. I think for a casual noob a typical strategy might be best. Reading a few older articles and it turns out good players don't just spam flamethrower. Weird.
Any other advice you have would be great too.
I dont play competitively but can answer some.
The game should track the EV for your Pokemon. The game should also have items that allow you to reset your Pokemons EV. But this was from Pokemon X and Y. I played omega ruby but I spent 500 hours on X so that's all in can recall.
Just use your starter in the main game. Even if you screw up his IV and moveset, you can easily just breed a fresh one. The only thing you might want to be weary about, is restarting the game so you get your desired IV and nature. But there are other ways of obtaining that as well without continually restarting the game.
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When EV training to you guys keep a note book or spreadsheet to keep track of everything?
In the good old days, yes - but EV training is much easier and more accessible now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1pdzya/iv_breeding_guide_quick_ev_guide_links/
That link and the other pages it links to should give you a fair bit of information about the process. Still helpful to keep track of it on something though.
Do you generally play through the main game casually before you go back catch/breed/train competitive mons?
Yes, absolutely. While EV training is no longer really time consuming, breeding etc very much can be. If you find a Pokemon geared for serious competitive play just by playing the game normally, you are extremely lucky. Egg moves, IVs, natures, etc, are all important in competitive battling and you're very unlikely to find the perfect Pokemon in the wild. I enjoy the game with the Pokemon I like, then go back and work out what I'd like to play with competitively.
If you want to use your starter in your competitive team do you bank him right away or just breed more so you can use him.
Use him in-game then breed for a competitive Pokemon. As above, your original starter is very unlikely to be geared towards competitive play.
Exp share shares EV's too? If so do you train with only the desired mons in your party?
Yes it does, but Exp Share can be turned off. There are four options here, off the top of my head:
Where can I look up desired IV/nature of mons so I can plan?
Smogon is your best friend for competitive sets/advice.
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/
You don't need to follow them exactly, but this will give you a good idea of the types of sets that are commonly used. Bear in mind that the Pokemon new in Generation VII won't be up on Smogon for a while, and that this information will be out of date until updated for Sun/Moon. There are some pretty big changes coming to existing Pokemon so I can't guarantee the stuff here will still be relevant in two months' time, but it will allow you to get a feel for it all.
One thing I do need to explain is that Pokemon are categorised into "Tiers," which are almost like game modes with different Pokemon, rules, etc. Don't worry too much about this, just realise that Ubers are banned in most competitive battles. OU is the tier you want to be looking at mostly, as they're some of the strongest non-banned Pokemon. If this paragraph doesn't make sense, have a read of these pages in particular:
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/uber/ - this describes the "Uber" tier. These Pokemon are banned in most types of competitive play (including the BigFooty tournaments).
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/ou/ - this is the "Overused / OU" tier. These Pokemon are pretty much your best friends when building the core of a competitive team (at least, until it's updated for Sun/Moon, when we'll get a bunch of changes, haha).
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/bl/ - this is the "Borderline / BL" tier. These Pokemon are useful as well.
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/uu/ - this is the "Underused / UU" tier. Can be useful, but generally not powerful enough to hold their own as the main option on a team (unless you're playing in the UU tier, of course).
Most competitive battles are in the OU tier, so familiarise yourself with that link in particular. Only Ubers are banned in that tier.
It's also worth noting that just because a Pokemon is in a high tier it doesn't mean it's a 'must use'. It doesn't mean it will fit into your team. It doesn't mean you'll be good at using it. It doesn't mean you'll like using it. All of those things come with experience, which is another reason why it's good to play through the main game first.
That probably sounds really difficult to understand, and I haven't done a great job there, but hopefully you'll get some idea.
Not a question but party planning looks likes it's both very fun and super time consuming. I think for a casual noob a typical strategy might be best. Reading a few older articles and it turns out good players don't just spam flamethrower. Weird.
It can be time consuming, yeah. For a casual noob it's probably best to pick 2-3 Pokemon you like and want to use, then pick Pokemon that complement them (using a few resources for help). As/if you get more into it you'll pick up strategies and such along the way.
Some links that are helpful in team planning:
https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/ - plan your team out; shows weaknesses etc
http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...ng-thread-b-and-c-pokemon-discussion.3495992/ - shows the current "strongest" Pokemon in the metagame
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/teambuilding-guide.3552468/ - massive teambuilding guide
The best advice I can give is to play through and enjoy the game without worrying too much about competitive play. Go through the story and have fun; use the Pokemon you want to, catch as many Pokemon as you can bear to, then worry about team building etc later.
When EV training to you guys keep a note book or spreadsheet to keep track of everything?
In the good old days, yes - but EV training is much easier and more accessible now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1pdzya/iv_breeding_guide_quick_ev_guide_links/
That link and the other pages it links to should give you a fair bit of information about the process. Still helpful to keep track of it on something though.
Do you generally play through the main game casually before you go back catch/breed/train competitive mons?
Yes, absolutely. While EV training is no longer really time consuming, breeding etc very much can be. If you find a Pokemon geared for serious competitive play just by playing the game normally, you are extremely lucky. Egg moves, IVs, natures, etc, are all important in competitive battling and you're very unlikely to find the perfect Pokemon in the wild. I enjoy the game with the Pokemon I like, then go back and work out what I'd like to play with competitively.
If you want to use your starter in your competitive team do you bank him right away or just breed more so you can use him.
Use him in-game then breed for a competitive Pokemon. As above, your original starter is very unlikely to be geared towards competitive play.
Exp share shares EV's too? If so do you train with only the desired mons in your party?
Yes it does, but Exp Share can be turned off. There are four options here, off the top of my head:
- Turn Exp Share off
- Fill your party with Pokemon who already have maxed EVs / you don't care about EV training
- Empty your party aside from the desired Pokemon
- Use Super Training to EV train instead of battling (explained in the Reddit link I think)
Where can I look up desired IV/nature of mons so I can plan?
Smogon is your best friend for competitive sets/advice.
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/
You don't need to follow them exactly, but this will give you a good idea of the types of sets that are commonly used. Bear in mind that the Pokemon new in Generation VII won't be up on Smogon for a while, and that this information will be out of date until updated for Sun/Moon. There are some pretty big changes coming to existing Pokemon so I can't guarantee the stuff here will still be relevant in two months' time, but it will allow you to get a feel for it all.
One thing I do need to explain is that Pokemon are categorised into "Tiers," which are almost like game modes with different Pokemon, rules, etc. Don't worry too much about this, just realise that Ubers are banned in most competitive battles. OU is the tier you want to be looking at mostly, as they're some of the strongest non-banned Pokemon. If this paragraph doesn't make sense, have a read of these pages in particular:
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/uber/ - this describes the "Uber" tier. These Pokemon are banned in most types of competitive play (including the BigFooty tournaments).
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/ou/ - this is the "Overused / OU" tier. These Pokemon are pretty much your best friends when building the core of a competitive team (at least, until it's updated for Sun/Moon, when we'll get a bunch of changes, haha).
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/bl/ - this is the "Borderline / BL" tier. These Pokemon are useful as well.
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/uu/ - this is the "Underused / UU" tier. Can be useful, but generally not powerful enough to hold their own as the main option on a team (unless you're playing in the UU tier, of course).
Most competitive battles are in the OU tier, so familiarise yourself with that link in particular. Only Ubers are banned in that tier.
It's also worth noting that just because a Pokemon is in a high tier it doesn't mean it's a 'must use'. It doesn't mean it will fit into your team. It doesn't mean you'll be good at using it. It doesn't mean you'll like using it. All of those things come with experience, which is another reason why it's good to play through the main game first.
That probably sounds really difficult to understand, and I haven't done a great job there, but hopefully you'll get some idea.
Not a question but party planning looks likes it's both very fun and super time consuming. I think for a casual noob a typical strategy might be best. Reading a few older articles and it turns out good players don't just spam flamethrower. Weird.
It can be time consuming, yeah. For a casual noob it's probably best to pick 2-3 Pokemon you like and want to use, then pick Pokemon that complement them (using a few resources for help). As/if you get more into it you'll pick up strategies and such along the way.
Some links that are helpful in team planning:
https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/ - plan your team out; shows weaknesses etc
http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...ng-thread-b-and-c-pokemon-discussion.3495992/ - shows the current "strongest" Pokemon in the metagame
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/teambuilding-guide.3552468/ - massive teambuilding guide
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Overall the metagame is very intricate and complex, but it is very rewarding and extremely fun. Does take time though.
The best advice I can give is to play through and enjoy the game without worrying too much about competitive play. Go through the story and have fun; use the Pokemon you want to, catch as many Pokemon as you can bear to, then worry about team building etc later.
Thanks guys, especially Dannnnnnnnn that's was exactly what I was after. I appreciate the effort and feel much more comfortable that I won't stuff anything up. I'll give the links a full read after work. If I have any other questions I'll ask as I go but those were the big ones. Just by lurking I've picked up a lot.
On a semi related note I managed to pick up an elusive trade in copy of soul silver from JB today. It's a pretty great Pokémon week for me.
On a semi related note I managed to pick up an elusive trade in copy of soul silver from JB today. It's a pretty great Pokémon week for me.
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Gotta find room for this legend...
The games are getting some really good reviews.
Gamexplains review has me so hyped
It's different that's for sure but in a refreshing way.
Outside of the starters and two other Pokémon mine have all been old gen Pokémon.
Outside of the starters and two other Pokémon mine have all been old gen Pokémon.
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Haven't played as much as I'd hoped to, having a week head start on everyone here.
Finished the first trial last night, pretty straight forward, being the first it was more of an introduction and not challenging at all.
All 3 starters are now in their second evo, Torracat currently my main. Still waiting for something new to put in the party until then I'll drag along my original 6 captures, Butterfree and Ratata can stay a little longer. Most encounters have been Gen 1 Pokemon, a few I needed for the Pokedex which will be handy once the bank is compatible.
Pokedex currently at 30.
Finished the first trial last night, pretty straight forward, being the first it was more of an introduction and not challenging at all.
All 3 starters are now in their second evo, Torracat currently my main. Still waiting for something new to put in the party until then I'll drag along my original 6 captures, Butterfree and Ratata can stay a little longer. Most encounters have been Gen 1 Pokemon, a few I needed for the Pokedex which will be handy once the bank is compatible.
Pokedex currently at 30.
Also the option to swap a Pokémon you have just caught with one in your party is so God damn good.
