Politics & Government Police Brutality

Will this be a catalyst for real change or will it be more of the same?

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LOL from trolling the homosexuals thread to this. I find it ironic that you can me for making assumptions about your political view and yet you do the same thing.

These scumbags were arguably going to be 'assaulted' according to some when they were taken down regardless. The police used heavy force to control the situation and were right to do so. Some lowlifes go too far when getting arrested or dealt with by the police and wonder why they get pushed or whacked hard with a baton when either trying to assault police or make their jobs very hard to do and the police have the power to make such responses. I am not the one who needs my head read. Despite the claims you make that your argument is flawless, it falls down when you decide to say police act poorly and make a sweeping widespread generalisation as to corruption in the force and this affecting their performance which is clearly not true. Corruption has been systematically shown to affect a small minority and is cleaned up quickly in the vast majority of situations. Also your assumption on how I feel police should treat people is equally stupid as it is clear that the criminals you are trying to defend were posing great harm to the community and their actions warranted the response given by law authorities. I agree police shouldn't just walk up to a random and hit them over the head with a baton but most of the people who cry blue murder have been shown to have provoked or invited the response taken by police.
 

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The police used heavy force to control the situation and were right to do so.
How do you justify the cop punching one of the "scumbags" when he was being held down?

Some lowlifes go too far when getting arrested or dealt with by the police and wonder why they get pushed or whacked hard with a baton when either trying to assault police or make their jobs very hard to do and the police have the power to make such responses.
Relevance?

You're arguing a specific situation where an officer has been filmed assaulted a criminal who is NOT trying to assault police with a general argument.

I am not the one who needs my head read. Despite the claims you make that your argument is flawless, it falls down when you decide to say police act poorly and make a sweeping widespread generalisation as to corruption in the force and this affecting their performance which is clearly not true.
Not true? Sorry, it is true. Do I need to go find a heap of links to royal commissions and cases where police have engaged in widespread corruption?

And I'm not sure why you think I said "corruption affects performance"?:confused: I said that having an attitude where police are assaulting criminals affects performance. Have you not seen a heap of footage in this very thread of police assaulting people?


Corruption has been systematically shown to affect a small minority and is cleaned up quickly in the vast majority of situations.
Not sure if serious.

Also your assumption on how I feel police should treat people is equally stupid
But I haven't got it wrong have I?

So what's your point?


as it is clear that the criminals you are trying to defend were posing great harm to the community and their actions warranted the response given by law authorities.
Any chance you can show me where I have defended these criminals?

Put up or shut up one-nut.


most of the people who cry blue murder have been shown to have provoked or invited the response taken by police.
It's exactly what I said - you think criminals who commit crimes "deserve" to be assaulted. Essentially you're an extremist.
 
"Tiny" ahahahahaha

But on subject, why do you think it's okay for police to assault people?

so in the 15,000 cops in victoria how many are corrupt and brutal?

can u show me a link to some statistics?

or are u just assuming and making up numbers in your head?

nah u wouldnt do that, u are open minded on the subject....;)
 
so in the 15,000 cops in victoria how many are corrupt and brutal?

can u show me a link to some statistics?

or are u just assuming and making up numbers in your head?

nah u wouldnt do that, u are open minded on the subject....;)
Perhaps you can answer my question first?
 
Interesting to see that Victoria has enacted legislation which increases sentences by 1 year to 5 year purely because the assaulted victim is a cop or an emergency worker.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/laws-wont-deter-attacks-on-police-20120426-1xo1p.html

Now, I have no great problem with this as resistance in a civil society must always be doen in a non violent manner.

However, there is one glaring ommission; where is the reciprocal legislation?

Surely a powerful state sanctioned identity like a police officer should attract an extra automatic 1 to 5 year sentence if found guilty of committing violent crimes?

Where is the consistency?
 
However, there is one glaring ommission; where is the reciprocal legislation?

Surely a powerful state sanctioned identity like a police officer should attract an extra automatic 1 to 5 year sentence if found guilty of committing violent crimes?

Where is the consistency?

this rule is for all emergency service workers. do u also think that an ambo should face extra punisment or only the cops?
 
38 days in jail.

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38 days in jail.

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wait, so now u are unhappy that police actually charged another cop and werent corrupt?

or are u unhappy with the length of time he spent in jail?

did u listen to the end of the video?

"you have to have a victim
u have to have evidence
u have to have a case u can prove beyond reasonable doubt
we did not have those"

u do realise that it is a judge that determines the length of jail time and not the police?
 

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David Healer is tortured by police officers Stephen Harvey and Michael Mount in County Durham U.K.

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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/muslim-lawyer-alleges-police-brutality-20100917-15gc2.html

This guy is an arabic muslim lawyer and has been arrested mutliple times for.......nothing at all.

He was once at court and saw the police being a bit too aggressive with someone (verbally) so he went and asked the police to settle down. He ended up getting arrested. Went to court. In court the police statement was "we just thought he was another ethnic defendant in a suit"

The judge decided to give the officers involved a bit of a lecture so they just walked out.

This is pretty typical of our polices forces and it's a massive concern. Part of their culture is to think they are answerable to no one and anyone who dares question them is some sort of anti-law and order crusader.

Again, shame on the people here who think our police forces don't have room for HUGE improvement.
 
Has anyone said that?

Implied, yes. Numerous posters here howl down ANY criticism of police. Therefore it is implied these people think there are few real problems within our police forces.

The truth is obvious:

1. Police brutality rears its head way too frequently
2. All our police forces have been PROVEN to have endemic corruption
3. Our police force have an attitude problem that needs major adjusting in that they feel they should have ultimate power and should not be accountable to anyone. This attitude is endemic within the police force and needs to be changed.

The fanbois on here spouting "it's ok for police to assault people" and "that person deserved to be assaulted by police because he was a drunken idiot (or a criminal" and "police should have the power to do whatever they want" make me sick. Right winged, Alan Jones listening, conservative ****wits.
 
Police need to be educated more on the fact that they are also the guardians of liberty.

The state has no interest in making police aware of this. The state likes the fact that people are scared of the police and it actively promotes bullies as police personnel in order to further it's aims.
 
Police: Taser Used On Nude 80-Year-Old Woman Attempting Hit Officers With Cane

Police in Dorchester County, S.C., used a Taser on a nude 80-year-old woman after she allegedly attempted to attack police with her walking stick. WCSC reports that when police answered a complaint of someone making loud noises in the area, they were met by an elderly woman wearing no clothes on her porch, reportedly hitting the steps of her porch with her cane.

According to police, the woman, who spoke “confusingly,” began to swing her cane at the officers when police tried to take it away from the nude woman. As police continued to talk the woman out of swinging her cane at them, another officer used his Taser on the woman’s back. The woman was immediately transported to a nearby medical facility for treatment.

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2012/...-old-woman-attempting-hit-officers-with-cane/
 

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