When umpire's stop paying in the back decisions against players who are in front, then maybe I'll stop abusing them.
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When umpire's stop paying in the back decisions against players who are in front, then maybe I'll stop abusing them.
So they don't deserve abuse when they make blatantly stupid decisions like the one I mentioned?Well thought out response
So they don't deserve abuse when they make blatantly stupid decisions like the one I mentioned?
I totally agree...all the crap that has taken place before the season even started to the AFL's limp wristed approach to serious Issues within the game is starting to make me sick....now we get this crap which shouldn't even be worth a thread.....Deller was a prick of an umpire anyway...didn't like the maggot then and i dont like him now........wait on.... oops! i said MAGGOT do u think the umpires death squad will see this and come to my front door and drag me out onto the street with semi automatics pointed at my head?With all this garbage, it is really turning me off footy. It's not the game that sucks at the moment (Carlton vs Brisbane last night was brilliant!) but the administering of the game that is turning me away.
Wake up, AFL.
Its also in todays Herald sun
Footy moots 'white maggot' ban
By Adrian Tame and Anthony Black
April 29, 2007 01:00am
AFL Umpires Association chief Bill Deller has called for spectators who use the time-honoured sledge at any AFL match to be thrown out.
The Gabba has ruled fans who yell the age-old term at Brisbane Lions' games will be evicted instantly.
Mr Deller said the ban should be introduced across Australia.
"It's not fun and it's not tradition. It's pathetic and I would welcome a ban on its use across the country," Mr Deller said this week.
The Gabba's surprise move is part of a zero tolerance approach to crowd behaviour at the stadium.
Officials have told Brisbane Lions member Garry Edwards, 58, that fans will be evicted if they use the term.
But the ban has prompted widespread anger.
Well-known Collingwood supporter Joffa Corfe described Gabba officials as "the Gestapo" and said the term should not be compared with use of foul language.
And the Salvation Army has backed him.
Fans at every ground in the country have used the words "white maggot" to describe umpires for generations.
But Mr Deller will have none of it.
"It's not affectionate. It's abuse, plain and simple, and it's bad for both the recruitment and retention of umpires," he said.
Mr Corfe disagreed.
"Calling an umpire a white maggot is as Australian as having a barbecue," he said.
"They'll need to start giving away Band-Aids at the gate so we can stick them over our gobs."
Mr Corfe said he was evicted from the Gabba two years ago for the offence of standing up.
"I've had my run-in with the Gestapo at the Gabba. A four-foot-nothing usher had me thrown out by Queensland police for standing up and supporting one of our boys in the goal square," he said.
"So this doesn't surprise me, but it would be a tragedy if it spread round the country.
"These people are catering for the theatregoer, not the footy fan.
"The problem with umpires nowadays is that they think the game is about them. It's not."
The Salvation Army is opposed to any move to make the ban national.
Spokesman Major Brad Halse said: "Sometimes political correctness runs mad in this country and there is over sanitisation in a lot of areas and this is one of them.
"I think it's extraordinary.
"The AFL should concentrate on outlawing obscene language, not a term like 'white maggot'."
A spokesman for Telstra Dome refused to comment on the issue, referring the Sunday Herald Sun to the ground's website, which includes the following: "Patrons must refrain from using foul or abusive language and from making racial or threatening remarks or gestures."
Two MCG spokesmen failed to respond to several requests for comment.
Should be dealt with under a common sense guideline of ejecting people who cause a nuisance of themselves. No need to ban a term - people will just use a new term anyway!Trouble is there ARE some knobs who seemingly only go to the game in order to abuse the umpire, and do it whether the umpire is doing a bad job or not.
Should be dealt with under a common sense guideline
The AFL can solve all of their perceived problems with the fans.
Just put up a big piece of ply at each gate, with a cutout representing the "perfect fan". Anyone not fitting the cookie-cutter ideal will not be able to get in.
Once in the grounds fans are required to empty the contents of their wallets into a special chute that feeds straight into a big truck for delivery to Spotless Catering HQ, in return for which they get a warm light beer in a plastic cup and a Four n Twenty with not enough sauce and one ticket for the toilets.
All seats to be fitted with seat belts. The "Fasten Seatbelts" sign (sponsored by Toyota) will remain on for the duration of the game, except at half time when patrons may elect to use their toilet ticket for one visit to the conveniences.
Patrons are allowed one minute of polite applause only upon the scoring of a goal.
Sound like the perfect world?
Really? And what principles are those?Well, everyone here who doesn't mind yelling all kinds of abuse at umpires or opposition players better not be the same people who were crying foul when Brauny let slip with the f-bomb a couple of weeks ago.
You also can't make the argument that they're two totally different things, as the same basic principles are behind both plans - that there should be complete sanitisation of the game.
Really? And what principles are those?
Trouble is there ARE some knobs who seemingly only go to the game in order to abuse the umpire, and do it whether the umpire is doing a bad job or not.
There was a tool at the Eagles-Crows game last year who just screamed abuse non-stop - when the umpire blew the whistle, when he didn't blow the whistle, when the play was at our end, when the play was at the other end, it was just non-stop. I had my seven year old son with me and quite frankly we shouldn't have to listen to it. Stupid thing was, the umpiring was having absolutely no influence on that game whatsoever. I can safely say that no-one around us that day would have cared if that guy had been thrown out.
Trouble is, of course, the security tools then can't differentiate between that guy and the rest of the crowd who may shout out in frustration at one time or another, or, god forbid, stand up when things get exciting.