Port Adelaide is not worthy of an AFL licence

[W. Smithers]

coming from a Freo supporter? Look at your own backyard before you look at anyone elses....

Spot on. Only 3 years ago Fremantle kicked 1 goal 7 behinds in a game and were the biggest joke in the competition.

Things can turn around pretty quickly.

 

[Premiers04]

When i looked at the thread title i was afraid it would be from someone whose club has done something worthwhile. LOL Freo

 

[drcollossimo]

When i looked at the thread title i was afraid it would be from someone whose club has done something worthwhile. LOL Freo

What is it 3 finals wins in 17 years?

But they got money now so good on em

 

[weneverland]

Shows a lack of understanding about SA footy to be honest, Port was selected for two main reasons:
1) We have the largest supporter base for any single club (still the case)
2) That supporter base was largely uninterested in the AFC and was likely to remain so

A norwood/sturt merger or another conglomerate it was felt at the time and still would drain support from the AFC. These are the major reasons Port got the nod, not some airy fairy we owe you handshake deal...

Another view of that process is that the AFL owed Port for breaking the deadlock in getting an AFL presence in SA. So they skewed the the entry criteria in Port's favour (the only time they have done this), by demanding that the bidder to operate the license have a large existing supporter base. This was the only instance of this being a requirement in any of the AFL's expansions. GWS, GCS and Freo didn't have to demonstrate this. They all were formed from nothing and with no supporters.

 

[drcollossimo]

Another view of that process is that the AFL owed Port for breaking the deadlock in getting an AFL presence in SA. So they skewed the the entry criteria in Port's favour (the only time they have done this), by demanding that the bidder to operate the license have a large existing supporter base. This was the only instance of this being a requirement in any of the AFL's expansions. GWS, GCS and Freo didn't have to demonstrate this. They all were formed from nothing and with no supporters.

Hmm really?! Cant comment Re Freo but it would seem that the final selection of a merger between two clubs and their respective supporter bases would have come into their thinking? Otherwise what were the figures the business case was built on?

GWS and GC have been put in place with an open acknowledgement that nobody will support them, its why theyve been gifted so much talent over the pas 3 years. So that base can be built.

In terms of our entry in to the AFL yep the league did state it didnt want another composite team but a club, which out of who was going for the licence leaves Port and Sturtwood again the sturtwood selection would have robbed the AFC of too many fans it was thought at the time.

 

[JimDocker]

Only read the first page of the thread.

Apologies to Port supporters that the dickhead OP is a Fremantle supporter.

We are in no position to criticise anyone. We have started heading in the right direction but are currently 2 GF appearances and 1 premiership short of the alleged basket case !

 

[Geoffa32]

Well said

Although I suspect if/when it moves to the BAY your tone will change?

As it should, that is what that place is for, a bit of a laugh and ridicule of club and posters. You give some, you take some.

 

[00Stinger]

It's not a right to be in the AFL, it's a privilege.

The sad thing is PA have 10 times the success that Freo have had in the AFL, yet Freo have been in the league longer.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

The sad thing is PA have 10 times the success that Freo have had in the AFL, yet Freo have been in the league longer.

Part of that would have to do with the fact that Port entered under slightly better circumstances but still... Crazy Neesham...

 

[SSSSSS]

You do realise the irony of your post OP? It was only 4-5 years ago that your club was a complete rabble and the laughing stock of the competition. Give Port some time to iron out their problems, it will come good in the end. They have a proud history, they just need to patch it up and work through it for now. Just like the AFL did with Freo.

 

[Rise_up_Stiffy]

Port have achieved much more than Freo in the AFL. The Port Adelaide football club is also the most successful of all time. Get stuffed.

 

[Pride of SA]

Where do you think the SANFL gets it's money from?

Adelaide Football Club

 

[Schulzenfest]

Adelaide Football Club

So we've established that you're totally ill-informed and will therefore have nothing of any value to contribute to the debate. Moving on.

 

[Pride of SA]

We recieved $4m in grants for the year total. Its in the annual report. $4.05 million. Not $6m. How you conclude $6m when clearly $2.05m + $2m = $4.05m I do not understand. You even quoted it and still couldnt work it out. We made a "profit" of $800k. This means, had we not recieved the grants we would have lost $3.2m. Not $7 million as you so falsely claim. Not to mention your equally false claim that the distribution was waived and as already mentioned, we are 6th in line in recieving special funding.

Its not that difficult.

your maths skills are astounding. it was $4m from the SANFL. plus $2m from the AFL.
$4+2m = $6million.

care to provide evidence you have to pay the same distribution as the AFC? it was waived a few years back. now add on the development coach funding and distributions from the AFL over and above what other clubs get.

 

[JimmySwan]

Have freo won a premiership yet? Just wondering?

 

[WAguru]

So you take something thats 18 months old and redundant as your source?

We have a full time list manager.

So who is it?

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/TheClub/Staff/tabid/8094/default.aspx

 

[Macca19]

your maths skills are astounding. it was $4m from the SANFL. plus $2m from the AFL.
$4+2m = $6million.

care to provide evidence you have to pay the same distribution as the AFC? it was waived a few years back. now add on the development coach funding and distributions from the AFL over and above what other clubs get.

Once again, we recieved $4.05m in grants last year. Not $6m. $4.05m. $2.05m direct from the SANFL. $2m from the AFL via the SANFL. $4.05m. Its not that ****ing difficult to read the annual report

We dont pay the same distribution as the AFC, but thats not what you stated. We pay a distribution to the SANFL and always have done.

 

[PAUR]

You know very well that Adealide is not necessarily the "State" team.

SA is an Aussie rules state. There is no reason it cannot sustain two football teams.

I know that it is factually not a state team and I wasn't trying to be disingenious. It was established as the team for "All South Australians", with the state colours and the state capital as it's club name using the Crow-eaters to derive it's mascot. If you were going to set up a state SA afl team I would use all of those things.

And you are correct SA can sustain two football teams and it should be able to be close to the two WA teams off field - currently neither team is close to it's respective WA counterpart meaning something in SA footy (AFL) is not right - Port further away from Freo than Adelaide to WCE but the point is valid. Let's hope the move to the city oval will help some SA people choose live football over watching it on TV.

 

[Macca19]

So who is it?

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/TheClub/Staff/tabid/8094/default.aspx

Im not doing your research for you. And btw, that list is from 2011, not 2012.

 

[WAguru]

Im not doing your research for you. And btw, that list is from 2011, not 2012.

It's taken directly from your clubs website, you seem to be in the know, who is it?

More than happy to apologise for suggesting the club has no list manager, but I can only go on what the club presents, the disclosure doesn't appear to be up to scratch.

I would think that a professional club would list those responsible for holding pivotal positions at the club.

So, who is it?

 

[Pride of SA]

Once again, we recieved $4.05m in grants last year. Not $6m. $4.05m. $2.05m direct from the SANFL. $2m from the AFL via the SANFL. $4.05m. Its not that ******* difficult to read the annual report

"The club received just over $4 million in assistance from the SANFL in 2011, including $2.05 million held over from 2010 and a further $2 million made available through a loan to the SA Football Commission from the AFL."

the club doesnt agree with you.

We dont pay the same distribution as the AFC, but thats not what you stated. We pay a distribution to the SANFL and always have done.

having your distribution reduced is the same as being subsidised. which was my initial point, although incorrect to say you pay nothing I concede. how much would you have lost if the playing field was even, you didnt get any handouts and you paid your way the same as the AFC.

its okay to say Port will be 'fine', but you dont seem to get your future depends solely on those who are handing out millions and millions to you each and every year deciding that that is money well spent. with the game more and more being dictated by TV requirements, it may well soon come a time where they baulk at being asked to pay $1b and having 3-4 low rating clubs to televise and push the AFL to increase their ratings elsewhere by having teams in other markets, especially when SA is already effectively covered.

 

[WAguru]

Port sent applicant Rodney Eade a text to notify him of the club decision in regards to the coach vacancy.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/po...arch-for-a-coach/story-fnelctok-1226489048424

RODNEY Eade's management has been left frustrated by Port Adelaide's epic search for a new coach that ended for Eade with a text message last night.

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After offering the vacancy to Gold Coast assistant Ken Hinkley, Power chief executive Keith Thomas sent a text to Phill Mullen saying: "Decided to go another direction. Thanks for facilitating the process.''

Mullen told adelaidenow he had expected a telephone call to mark the end to Eade's part in the 62-day search for Matthew Primus' successor.

"I thought we'd get a phone call. It was a text,'' he said. "That is their perogative. But it is disappointing.''

Eade's motives for considering Port also have been brought into question by Thomas publicly questioning if some of the candidates were seeking a move to Alberton for "the right reasons''.

"If it was Rodney, he would have been successful in the role,'' said Mullen. "Those who know Rodney well, football people who know him well enough know he would have given more than 100 per cent to the job.

"He would have been doing it for the right reasons.

"Rodney's happy where he is anyway. He is at a professional club at Collingwood with professional people around him.''

Mullen negotiated Eade's move from the Western Bulldogs to be the strategy coach at the Magpies in less than a week last year. By comparison, Port's process is in its ninth week.

Port began the search in August declaring it wanted an experienced coach with Eade being the best-qualified of the candidates.

"It has been a drawn out process - it has seemed to go on forever - and that is quite amazing,'' he said. "I had a lot of contact with them (Port) and did not pass all of it on to Rodney, so he would not have been as frustrated as I was.

"I would have been very happy to take a phone call from them at the end. Obviously, they are busy so a text was probably convenient.''

 

[Papa G]

I sent a text to a 15 year old girl that believed everything that Rucci writes telling her that she was a dumb dumb.

 

[Arwib]

It's going to be a long off-season.

 

[The King!]

Just get any assistance needed right thats all you can ask. Will be bad for all teams for port to fail, it wont happen.