Why did Port Adelaide trade their 2xAA backman Dan Houston for half-eaten dorito chip

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

AFL list managers seem to weirdly put emotions and comradery in the centre of negotiations which allows teams to make enormous unders because they want to feel like a good guy.

AFL industry is just odd that way. We are as ruthless as a kitten playing with a blanket.

This is not a Port Adelaide issue. Its across most of the competition. We have what id say 4 teams outside this rule. Richmind/Geelong/Hawks/Collingwood . Not surprising to me why they are the most successful teams. It is to others for some odd reason

 

[Daniel_Rich]

AFL list managers seem to weirdly put emotions and comradery in the centre of negotiations which allows teams to make enormous unders because they want to feel like a good guy.

AFL industry is just odd that way. We are as ruthless as a kitten playing with a blanket.

This is not a Port Adelaide issue. Its across most of the competition. We have what id say 4 teams outside this rule. Richmind/Geelong/Hawks/Collingwood . Not surprising to me why they are the most successful teams. It is to others for some odd reason

Your side and mine have both been more successful than the Pies and Tigers in the AFL era.

 

[Freomaniac]

Your side and mine have both been more successful than the Pies and Tigers in the AFL era.

Yeah true.... Had the swans won a couple of more grand finals in 2014, 2016 or 2022, you could of added Sydney on that list too

 

[Bunk Moreland]

No matter how many plaudits they have… half back flankers really aren’t worth that much, and the league knows it.

They're very easily replaced.

 

[voorhees]

So ...
Atkins is a perma-sub, the wrong side of 30 and played 3 games last year.
Richards is a mature-age recruit yet to prove anything at the level

Why bring these two in? Let alone trade for them.

it's the one question on most people's mind!
would seem to most to be a bizarre decision, with no upside to it.
Would be extremely frustrated if being a Pt Adel member.

 

[Del28562]

Because Connors manages petracca as well as houston. Managers were never dealing with Melbourne, after not letting petracca go. They then tell port they won't push players their way when they fall our of contract. They have far too great a say in the footy landscape and it's created tiers within the comp and "destination" clubs where they funnel players to their mates.

It's an old boys club mentality and Andrew Dillon should be spending far more time on this ruining our game rather than Josh fahey on a mad Monday

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Because Connors manages petracca as well as houston. Managers were never dealing with Melbourne, after not letting petracca go. They then tell port they won't push players their way when they fall our of contract. They have far too great a say in the footy landscape and it's created tiers within the comp and "destination" clubs where they funnel players to their mates.

It's an old boys club mentality and Andrew Dillon should be spending far more time on this ruining our game rather than Josh fahey on a mad Monday

Interesting. Started a thread on this.

 

[philthy05]

Few years back Melbourne Demons tried to assassinate Brand Petracca by drowning him.
Didn't work, but we didn't give up either, sent him out at the Big Kings Birthday game with half a spleen.
Traumatised the poor campaigner so bad he didn't even attend our B&F.

If anyone deserves "fresh start" it's him but he asked for a trade and we laughed in his face. Sorry mate, few years left to run on that thing you signed!

Clayton Oliver, he's done alright by us. 2xAFLCA, couple of AA, few best and fairests I think.
Had a rough time apparently, just wants the simple life, nice farm away from the big smoke, get himself a John Deere.
So keen to leave he even said he'd take a pay cut. We told him to **** off too.

Dan Houston said like 2 weeks ago he was happy to stay if Port can't get a nice trade but they basically just gave him away to bloody Collingwood of all teams.

QUESTION FOR BIGFOOTY BRAINS TRUST:

Why don't clubs just hold their players to contract? Dees did and everyone's having a great time.

Melbs admin do something the members don’t like what happens? What is the repercussions?

The members vote on the board, if they piss the members off they’re all out of a job.



Port fans don’t have that ability. The afl cooked it so we can’t. They pick the majority of our board. Hell, they’ve basically pissed on us for a decade now.


So when people complain about vicbias, and those of you who claim it doesn’t exist just have your heads in the sand. Our board doesn’t work for its members, it works for the afl.


Absolutely none of what I’ve said is opinion, or conspiracy, it’s cold hard facts.



Has all the credibility of a bush league.

 

[Toump Ass]

Melbs admin do something the members don’t like what happens?

Apparently not much.

 

[markm106]

Absolutely no doubt player managers are having too much say now. This was spoken about on trade radio. Can’t recall who said it. But certainly discussed.

 

[SC_Power]

No matter how many plaudits they have… half back flankers really aren’t worth that much, and the league knows it.

They're very easily replaced.

Much as I disagree with the Houston trade, this is a valid point of view.

Port Adelaide have Kane Farrell to come back from injury, Logan Evans came into the team mid year with immediate impact, and Jase Burgoyne played a great HB role through finals. This is the thinking that our recruiting team clearly held.

 

[Matrix10]

Petraccas and Oliver signed big contracts, ask them if they mean anything

Absolutely, with the club infighting and fractions between the playing group , players wanting out , toxic administration , must be a hell of a place to be involved with .

 

[Matrix10]

No matter how many plaudits they have… half back flankers really aren’t worth that much, and the league knows it.

They're very easily replaced.

When you have players of the ilk in sideway kick McGrath and Clanger king Jayden Laverne , I totally see where you’re coming from .

 

[WillHayward]

Dawson is a better player than Houston and we got less from that trade.

The OP is simply delusional.

Generally speaking :

1. Players that genuinely want to leave. Leave. If they can.
2. Players leave when a club they want to go has the MONEY to accommodate them.

Reality is no other club would pay Oliver what he is on at Melbourne. Not even close. He had no choice but stay.

I suspect the same may be the same for Petracca re $$$ but possibly he didn't genuinely wanted to leave but just wanted to make a point.

 

[Toump Ass]

Absolutely, with the club infighting and fractions between the playing group , players wanting out , toxic administration , must be a hell of a place to be involved with .

They are having a ****ing great time mate. Best club.

 

[Cyclops]

Melbs admin do something the members don’t like what happens? What is the repercussions?

The members vote on the board, if they piss the members off they’re all out of a job.



Port fans don’t have that ability. The afl cooked it so we can’t. They pick the majority of our board. Hell, they’ve basically pissed on us for a decade now.


So when people complain about vicbias, and those of you who claim it doesn’t exist just have your heads in the sand. Our board doesn’t work for its members, it works for the afl.


Absolutely none of what I’ve said is opinion, or conspiracy, it’s cold hard facts.



Has all the credibility of a bush league.

I think Melbourbe FC is owned by the MCC?

 

[Taper]

Melbs admin do something the members don’t like what happens? What is the repercussions?

The members vote on the board, if they piss the members off they’re all out of a job.



Port fans don’t have that ability. The afl cooked it so we can’t. They pick the majority of our board. Hell, they’ve basically pissed on us for a decade now.


So when people complain about vicbias, and those of you who claim it doesn’t exist just have your heads in the sand. Our board doesn’t work for its members, it works for the afl.


Absolutely none of what I’ve said is opinion, or conspiracy, it’s cold hard facts.



Has all the credibility of a bush league.

The moves being made by Port this off season indicate they're looking at a mini rebuild, so they can avoid risking the possibility of finishing bottom 4.
I have no doubt this is a directive from AFL House who know they can't afford to have Port finishing in the bottom rungs of the ladder.

 

[philthy05]

The moves being made by Port this off season indicate they're looking at a mini rebuild, so they can avoid risking the possibility of finishing bottom 4.
I have no doubt this is a directive from AFL House who know they can't afford to have Port finishing in the bottom rungs of the ladder.

In no way does it look like a mini rebuild.


It looks like a team had an outgoing gun, and folded to vic teams meagre trade offers while vic journos talked down his trade value while supporting the calls for much higher value trades for outgoing vic players like Rioli and Bolton.

 

[Del28562]

In no way does it look like a mini rebuild.


It looks like a team had an outgoing gun, and folded to vic teams meagre trade offers while vic journos talked down his trade value while supporting the calls for much higher value trades for outgoing vic players like Rioli and Bolton.

It's rhe afl and player managers monopolising the game. We need a great Collingwood, Carlton and Richmond. The trade period showed a real vic bias occurring from managers setting the tone of the trade.

This is where Dillon needs to show leadership and tough calls for the integrity of the comp, over Toby Greene as raygun

 

[Cleric]

Because we are a weak, feeder club with no accountability.

We are talking about a club that has had Ken Hinkley as the coach for 12 seasons. Nothing they do surprises me

I actually think the problem isn't Ken. I think he has over produced with the team he has had.
The list just isn't that good outside of the holy trinity of Butters, JHF and Rozee.

 

[jakson68]

Melbs admin do something the members don’t like what happens? What is the repercussions?

The members vote on the board, if they piss the members off they’re all out of a job.



Port fans don’t have that ability. The afl cooked it so we can’t. They pick the majority of our board. Hell, they’ve basically pissed on us for a decade now.


So when people complain about vicbias, and those of you who claim it doesn’t exist just have your heads in the sand. Our board doesn’t work for its members, it works for the afl.


Absolutely none of what I’ve said is opinion, or conspiracy, it’s cold hard facts.



Has all the credibility of a bush league.

Power should feel comfortable then.
As they still live in the memory of their bush league success.

 

[Taper]

I actually think the problem isn't Ken. I think he has over produced with the team he has had.
The list just isn't that good outside of the holy trinity of Butters, JHF and Rozee.

Port have never had star studded teams, which is why I give them credit for constantly punching above their weight.
Hinkley did well to get Port within a kick of a grand final in 2014 and 2020, especially when their opponents received the rub of the green.

2021 preliminary final was a shocker but clearly an aberration, when assessing Port's 2021 season don't judge them by one game judge them by the collective.
2023 finals series saw Port go out in straight sets due to so many of their players carrying injuries, and shallow list depth meant they couldn't bring replacements in for the injured players.
2024 qualifying final was a Chris Scott masterclass so it's not like Hinkley was bad that night it's just that Chris Scott was at the top of his game. Port had to then play a tough semi final and it meant they struggled to keep up with the fresh legs of Sydney in the preliminary final.

I struggle to think of many Port players who would get a game at my club, so Hinkley deserves credit for being able to get his side to finish top 4 on a regular basis in recent years.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

It's rhe afl and player managers monopolising the game. We need a great Collingwood, Carlton and Richmond. The trade period showed a real vic bias occurring from managers setting the tone of the trade.

This is where Dillon needs to show leadership and tough calls for the integrity of the comp, over Toby Greene as raygun

Of course it was.

All the BS about how great it was for 2 non Vic sides to be in the GF.
No sooner did the final siren ring out at the G and Operation Heartland 2.0 went into full swing.
Its actually hilarious that our Vicco friends were convinced we bought it.

As obvious as the nose on ones face.

Icing on the cake was when the NSW League umps made sure the home of sport werent getting silverware from either code this year.

You love to see it.

 

[philthy05]

Port have never had star studded teams, which is why I give them credit for constantly punching above their weight.
Hinkley did well to get Port within a kick of a grand final in 2014 and 2020, especially when their opponents received the rub of the green.

2021 preliminary final was a shocker but clearly an aberration, when assessing Port's 2021 season don't judge them by one game judge them by the collective.
2023 finals series saw Port go out in straight sets due to so many of their players carrying injuries, and shallow list depth meant they couldn't bring replacements in for the injured players.
2024 qualifying final was a Chris Scott masterclass so it's not like Hinkley was bad that night it's just that Chris Scott was at the top of his game. Port had to then play a tough semi final and it meant they struggled to keep up with the fresh legs of Sydney in the preliminary final.

I struggle to think of many Port players who would get a game at my club, so Hinkley deserves credit for being able to get his side to finish top 4 on a regular basis in recent years.

Lol this is one eyed rubbish.

 

[Toump Ass]

Lol this is one eyed rubbish.

Do you think Port are the best side in the competition?
Prelim final is definitely a pass mark IMO. Simply don't have the A-graders that something like Brisbane or Sydney has and doesn't have the depth either.

Melbourne Demons-like forward line.