Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[Enviable Tradition]

Our b&f is named after Malcolm Blight. Best team man is named after Walsh and through that we won’t have to re educate people about his history at the club. What’s your club done?

Done about what?

In our 150 years we have had many legends. Many of whom have contributed to our club in incredible ways. Many of whom have sadly passed.

One in particular of whom may be soon to pass.

Phil Walsh was a great contributor to the Port Adelaide Football Club. One of many. Many of whom it could easily be argued contributed more.

Its not our problem that you have less to choose from.

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[Tim Evans Beard]

Hi

I said paraphrasing moron. They are the same thing. He said the same thing. Don’t try to defend the indefensible. What was KT trying to say otherwise? What was his rationale for not naming the showdown medal the “Phil Walsh medal”?

Phil had a reasonable playing history across 3 clubs with a special place in Brisbane where he won their inaugural best and fairest.

His off-field work at Geelong, West Coast, Port and Adelaide is well regarded. For example, he is still highly spoken of by Phil Scott (ex WCE ruck coach) and his influence significant at that club.

Phil died under awful and unexpected circumstances that no family should ever wish to endure. That does not mean a medal in a home and away regulation should have a medal named after him. Or even if a medal should be presented. Phil significantly contributed to a number of clubs and no one game could represent his contributions across all those clubs.


Furthermore, the ‘Balfours Cup’, ‘West End Trophy’, or whatever other sponsor comes along can by the prestige you are suggesting the medal is worth.

If anything, and I don’t believe their should be a medal, I would propose the Cornes-McLeod medal would be interesting.

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

Is this about a guernsey or is it an Adelaide and port tantrum zone?

Yes

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Yep.

And the 'Bars are part of the SANFL maggies, just like their song.

Didn't someone already post the maggies celebrating in the bars singing their actual song after an actual SANFL win today.

Will they start singing in the chevrons now?

Yes both of our clubs teams celebrated wearing the bars today.

It was awesome.

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[Pt Augusta Power]

He kinda did. Like your mates on this thread have. It’s all here for everyone to see.

Yeah nah - he didn’t. You did though.

 

[ibd77]

Is this about a guernsey or is it an Adelaide and port tantrum zone?

I guess Collingwood left the room.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

To screw you!

Hes more likely to screw you, but you guys enjoy that.

Im sure you'll be happy about moving from a contaminated swamp to a contaminated industrial zone.

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[Great8]

To be a truly national competition the AFL must recognise the heritage of all clubs. Otherwise it's just a bastardised VFL.

The AFL has never made any secrets about it just being the VFL renamed. Why do you think the GF will be at the MCG forever and all the major awards are VFL awards?

 

[longdonkey]

One thing I find odd.... If Port is all about its heritage etc.. Why did it ditch the sanfl for the afl?

And why have they only made a fuss about it in last ten years.... They didn't make it an issue for a long time.

You have to remember this. Port is a suburban football club. A lot of us have heritage and have fathers and grandfathers that have played for the club in the prison bar jumper. I played with and against a bunch a guys who won premiership medals at Port and played in Victoria and won AFL premierships.
It was obvious to everyone in the 80's that the comp would go national. The amount of money Vic clubs were splashing around wasn't sustainable. That's why we wanted to join the AFL.
Why only the last 10 years. Until then Port was pretty much owned and controlled by the SANFL and decisions were made that were detrimental to the history and ethos of the club and its traditional supporter base. The SANFL has not owned the Port license since 2014 hence the change.

Most Port supporters do not expect Port to ever be the Magpies again and not expect to wear the bars in every game but we think that what we asked for is not unreasonable and that is the reason for the backlash.

 

[ibd77]

One thing I find odd.... If Port is all about its heritage etc.. Why did it ditch the sanfl for the afl?

And why have they only made a fuss about it in last ten years.... They didn't make it an issue for a long time.

Not our choice in 97. $ANFL needed PA in their league but forced them away from Alberton to a suburban amatuer league ground at Ethelton splitting the two clubs apart.

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

I havent walked back anything. But you read what you want and take it how you want chief

I will sport - you keep angling for an AFL role by shrilling what you think will get you noticed.

 

[Sizzlesilk]

Ummm - first part of your question is easy- have you watched the sanfl? It is a dying competition, alway was. Currently about 800 people at each game, a few snags and and a kick and catch at half time. The AFL was and is the biggest competition in the land.

re our history and why it’s been big push the last 10 years - it’s a long and painful story. Not sure you’re probably really that interested. Actually, Dwayne Russell explained it pretty well at the start of tonight’s game - it’s the catalyst for NTUA.

What an utter crock of crap.
If you don’t have a clue don’t just make BS up to suit your argument.
You clearly haven’t seen much SANFL in the past 5 years.
Due to COVID yes numbers were restricted.
Been to The Parade, The Bay? Noarlunga lately? Clearly not Port v Glenelg 2 weeks ago where over 4000 attended.
North, Sturt, Norwood and Glenelg all average over 3000 per home game. Norwood and Sturt down a little YTD. Glenelg and North up.
The 2 GF’s pre Covid 2018 and 2019 attracted 40,000 people.

What matches recently have only attracted 800?

You have clearly no idea of the history or the current state of the SANFL comp... hence the reason you stuck your chest out made some sh*t up & ran from answering the question.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

One thing I find odd.... If Port is all about its heritage etc.. Why did it ditch the sanfl for the afl?

And why have they only made a fuss about it in last ten years.... They didn't make it an issue for a long time.

Because our heritage is all about striving to be the best club in the land.

It is what we have always been about.

We think big, we expect success and we dont take no for an answer.


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[longdonkey]

What an utter crock of crap.
If you don’t have a clue don’t just make BS up to suit your argument.
You clearly haven’t seen much SANFL in the past 5 years.
Due to COVID yes numbers were restricted.
Been to The Parade, The Bay? Noarlunga lately? Clearly not Port v Glenelg 2 weeks ago where over 4000 attended.
North, Sturt, Norwood and Glenelg all average over 3000 per home game. Norwood and Sturt down a little YTD. Glenelg and North up.
You have clearly no idea of the history hence the reason you stuck your chest out made some sh*t up & ran from answering the question.

In the early 80's a Port v Glenelg game at Football Park would have been 30-35k by the end of the 80's down to 26k and shrinking fast

 

[Jonts]

I'm just shattered that my stocks in Collingwood have plumetted cause port wearing the prison bars have ruined it's brand once again

 

[Sizzlesilk]

In the early 80's a Port v Glenelg game at Football Park would have been 30-35k by the end of the 80's down to 26k and shrinking fast

I don’t deny the difference between the 80’s and now. Those sides were stacked with players that today would’ve been drafted when they hit 20. Different decades. Different state of the competitions. Ridiculous analogy.

However the SANFL comp is very very healthy comp with excellent numbers in comparison to the VFL and WAFL. It’s has very strong support still at the majority of local clubs. Except Port and Adel.

 

[ibd77]

I'm just shattered that my stocks in Collingwood have plumetted cause port wearing the prison bars have ruined it's brand once again

God damn, don't you hate cheapening someone else's brand. Have to feel sorry for that lot

 

[Ray Nolan]

One thing I find odd.... If Port is all about its heritage etc.. Why did it ditch the sanfl for the afl?

The club's constitution required it to seek to play at highest level available. From 1991 that was the AFL, so the club was compelled by its constitution to seek admission.

 

[doppleganger]

magpies is a nickname it’s from the sanfl and that’s where it stays for us. A football club is bigger than a nickname or a mascot.

Interesting how people can have this thinking, but get so hung up on a jumper that they have changed multiple times anyway and was also linked with the maggies.

Port have worn other jumpers and colours prior to the Magpies branding. But the 'Bars were brought on with the Magpies.

The Magpies nickname and logo...meh leave it in SANFL, themesong, meh leave it in SANFL, historic rivals...meh leave em in SANFL

You are OK to leave basically everything of the maggies heritage back in the SANFL, except for the SANFL jumper.

As you say the club is bigger, so of they are now embracing Port (or the power) instead of the Magpies...then why not embrace the new jumper that goes along with the new Port?

 

[Scotland]

Because Teal is one of your colours.

Do you care that Freo don't wear red or green?

 

[Tulip]

Difficult to imagine what kind of person cares what another club wears.

Particularly when they wear it in their rooms.

 

[AndyD]

I think non-Port fans don't really get it. The bars really mean a lot to us. That won't change. More resistance from the AFL will only supporters more resistive. It's our heritage and people are actively trying to deny our heritage. It's not a case of lying down and playing meek.

To be a truly national competition the AFL must recognise the heritage of all clubs. Otherwise it's just a bastardised VFL.

Port would hope like hell the other clubs/the AFL have forgotten about their heritage of putting themselves and their interests above the collective interest or will of the rest of the teams in their competition. Thankfully the AFL and their clubs do not rely on Port like the SANFL and their clubs did.

I think the thing Port fans don’t really get is that their history/heritage really doesn’t mean anything to the rest of the comp (except in this case where a claim to their heritage impinges on Collingwood exisiting heritage in the competition). Fans of the teams in WA don’t care, same in QLD, same in NSW, same in Vic, and especially in SA where Port are the clear little brother to the Crows. Nobody is denying Port won a bunch in the SANFL and wore the prison bars in that comp, they are just saying they can’t wear that same design in the AFL because another club had something similar to it in that comp first.


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[Tim Evans Beard]

Interesting how people can have this thinking, but get so hung up on a jumper that they have changed multiple times anyway and was also linked with the maggies.

Port have worn other jumpers and colours prior to the Magpies branding. But the 'Bars were brought on with the Magpies.

The Magpies nickname and logo...meh leave it in SANFL, themesong, meh leave it in SANFL, historic rivals...meh leave em in SANFL

You are OK to leave basically everything of the maggies heritage back in the SANFL, except for the SANFL jumper.

As you say the club is bigger, so of they are now embracing Port (or the power) instead of the Magpies...then why not embrace the new jumper that goes along with the new Port?

We have mirrors in our change rooms - do Collingwood? We have grass on our oval - do Collingwood? We have doors and windows on our club facilities - do Collingwood?

Collingwood don’t own football, they don’t own Port Adelaide and they don’t own the Black and White.

The only thing they own is a systematically racist culture.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

We have our best team man award named after him and were championing the showdown medal to be named after him to honour his legacy at both clubs.

They should stop doing that. He'd be embarrassed to even see it awarded.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

However the SANFL comp is very very healthy comp with excellent numbers in comparison to the VFL and WAFL. It’s has very strong support still at the majority of local clubs. Except Port and Adel.

Nearly all of its revenue comes from parasiting off Port and Adelaide. Its not healthy at all.