Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[doppleganger]

People say just add teal to the PB guernsey.

Now, ignoring all the other problems with that, the designs for a concept usually have the top panel as teal and the rest the same as normal, with black and white stripes, that would still not fly with Collingwood/Eddie, because, the core of the design would still be, black and white stripes.

Bars designs, that dont involve black n white.

It really aint hard, and everyone would get the wharf pylon heritage link that is Port Adelaide "bars".

Black n Teal
Black n Silver
Magenta heritage throwback

 

[edgie]

Bars designs, that dont involve black n white.

It really aint hard, and everyone would get the wharf pylon heritage link that is Port Adelaide "bars".

Black n Teal
Black n Silver
Magenta heritage throwback

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You can't throwback to an imaginary guernsey that didn't exist.

 

[doppleganger]

You can't throwback to an imaginary guernsey that didn't exist.

This is the magenta Port heritage jumper.
Combine the heritage colour scheme with the "bars" design.

Double heritage!!!

 

[bomberclifford]

Just as much connection to the magenta or light blue hoops jumpers.

Port Adelaide happy to drop those designs along the journey.

All part of the rich Port Adelaide SANFL heritage. All acknowledged with AFL "heritage" jumpers.

Yes? What’s your point here?

 

[doppleganger]

Yes? What’s your point here?

Port Adelaide have played in multiple jumper designs along the journey.

They had no problems dropping desings and embracing new ones along the journey.

The "bars jumper" is just one small part -of the Port heritage.

Prior to the 1960s, the SANFL Port Adelaide team wasnt linked to the bars.

For circa 110 of the 150 years Port have been around, the main Port Adelaide team hasnt played in the "bars" kit.

 

[Francesco Totti]

A lot of meaningless words from someone who has zero idea about Port Adelaide's identity.

Choco cares about Choco and feels that his personal legacy will be damaged if the Power brand is minimised in place of the Prison Bars. He's wrong, but mainly he's self interested.

 

[edgie]

Port have been able to west the magenta and blue hoops in heritage round with no dramas at all.

How come so much drama for the guernsey worn for much longer (and in different forms) than the others?

Is that your point? That we should be able to wear black and white too without so much crying from others clubs?

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[El_Scorcho]

The "bars jumper" is just one small part -of the Port heritage.

Prior to the 1960s, the SANFL Port Adelaide team wasnt linked to the bars.

For circa 110 of the 150 years Port have been around, the main Port Adelaide team hasnt played in the "bars" kit.

This is completely incorrect. Try again.

 

[bomberclifford]

Prior to the 1960s, the SANFL Port Adelaide team wasnt linked to the bars.

For circa 110 of the 150 years Port have been around, the main Port Adelaide team hasnt played in the "bars" kit.

U wot m8?

 

[Heater3923]

Lol at your rage over nothing. First, what's this IP theft? They're not using The Magpie nickname. Also, The VFL has 2 teams co-existing with the same Tiger nicknames, so there's some IP thieving there you should snitch to The VFL about. Geelong and Carlton share the same colours with both only wearing navy and white, no controversy. You proved my point, Richmond and West Coast aren't wearing the black sash on yellow uniforms at the same time, nor will Port and Collingwood be wearing black and white strips at the same time. You won't even notice if you don't watch Port matches. So silly.

I don’t prove any point of yours, quite the opposite in fact. In the AFL we have teams that all have unique identities.

Teams may share colours but not styles of jumpers.

Are you seriously gonna tell me you’d not protest if Noble Park came into the AFL and wore your WCE home jumper but with a bull instead of eagle on it??

You’re a very odd unit if you’d support Noble Park’s right to wear the eagles jumper in the AFL.

Regardless, the VFL/AFL had a consistent policy the whole way through - that any new entrant does not have similar colours AND style jumpers or identity of an original club.

Even Carlton in the early days had yellow yoke to avoid clashes with darker jumpers in the mud like Melbourne, Essendon and Collingwood.

Of the blue and white teams:

• north - vertical royal blue stripes
• blues - all navy blue
• cats - navy and white hoops

There are not two blue and white sides with comparable looking jumpers.

Of the red, blue and yellow teams:

• crows - red yellow and navy hoops
• lions - maroon with blue yoke and yellow lion and cuffs
• suns - all red with yellow flourishes and maybe a dash of light blue

There are not two red, blue and yellow sides that have comparable looking jumpers or even use the exact same shades of colours.

The colours may be similar - but the style is not even close to similar. Having two teams with the same colours with vertical stripes is dumb and just a dog shit idea anyway you slice it.

You can bring up erroneous points like “the VFL currently has two tiger teams” which both have very different styles of jumper.

In addition, the VFA got reshaped and rebranded as the VFL and allowed AFL reserves teams in. So it’s a merged and bastardised league to begin with. Your point is asinine, and meaningless.

It’s not like the SANFL merged with the VFL. It’s a completely different scenario to the old VFA becoming VFL. Not comparable in the slightest.

Im surprised you didn't raise Southport, who is currently in the VFL and will play Collingwood VFL (presumably) while wearing a black and white jumper.

But then funnily enough that argument would have backfired. Southport used to wear vertical black and white stripes and be called the magpies. They had a proud history in the Gold Coast Football League. Then they moved to the QFL in the 80’s.

After 30 proud years as the vertical stripes and magpie name - they changed to the Sharks and wore a White jersey with Black V … all to avoid a clash with the Sherwood Magpies who were already in the QFL…

If only the Power were half as smart as the Sharks. Southport don’t carry on pissing and moaning about a past identity. They embraced their new brand and premierships followed. They wrote a new chapter and moved on. It’s the most iconic jumper in the QAFL. It looks great in the VFL too - because it’s unique and doesn’t shit on any other clubs identity.

The Power probably could have got away with wearing black n white had they gone with hoops or a V or a sash. While i would say it would have been a missed opportunity to make a unique brand - I actually wouldn’t really care about it - as Geelong and Carlton and others share colours but have very different styles of jumper.

I mean the current Power home jumper has so little teal on it, it may as well be a black jumper with a White V. It’s even half the PB - with the back of the jumper exactly the same as the back of the PB. So they are actually wearing the back half the PB every home game.

I don’t understand why it so hard for people to understand. Collingwood want to protect its jumper and be the only club to wear vertical black and white stripes. Thats our heritage.

The bottom line is the Power just think their heritage in a second tier league supersedes that of Collingwood’s. It doesn’t. By demanding to wear vertical black and white stripes they actually disrespect our heritage.

Power fans - just be more like Southport. When you join a new comp - change your jumper and nickname to create a new identity and embrace it and then go on to win multiple premierships - like the Sharks.

Look it’s just fact, Collingwood has majestic and glorious bouncing goals like Maguane and Mannassa … while the Power has majestic and glorious bouncing points like Georgiadies …

Collingwood has majestic and glorious black and white verticals stripes while the Power have currently settled on a black jumper with white and teal V and the away abomination that is the silver jumper with Black and White V.

It is what it is. The pylons jumper has no place in the AFL. Plain and simple

 

[doppleganger]

U wot m8?

The heritage "bars" with the black back and number panel are really only from the 1960s.

Prior to then Port swapped all manner of black n white stripe combinations or were magenta.

How many seasons have Port's main senior team played in the "heritage" bars jumper that you are wanting to bring back??

 

[doppleganger]

Port have been able to west the magenta and blue hoops in heritage round with no dramas at all.

How come so much drama for the guernsey worn for much longer (and in different forms) than the others?

Is that your point? That we should be able to wear black and white too without so much crying from others clubs?

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Yeah for gimmick heritage rounds Port were able to play in old SANFL jumpers.

Just like Hawthorn cant just decide to play in Essendon style jumpers that they played in pre joining the VFL/AFL, Port cant play in black n white stripes despite them playing in them pre joining the VFL/AFL.

No other team uses magenta, blue and yellow....so if heritage is soooo important to Port why not use actual Port Adelaide heritage for AFL?

 

[phantom13]

I legitimately don’t understand why collingwood gives a shit what port wears in a showdown. By all means argue they can’t wear it all year and certainly not against you but a game in Adelaide between two Adelaide clubs that has absolutely nothing to do with you shouldn’t have any input from you. Plus surely you’ve got some bigger things on your off field plate at the moment.

 

[Engimal v3]

Remember when Port booked a game against Gold Coast in China and then threw a tantrum when they realised Chinese people love red and gold, so Koshie had to threaten them not to wear it?

 

[doppleganger]

I legitimately don’t understand why collingwood gives a shit what port wears in a showdown. By all means argue they can’t wear it all year and certainly not against you but a game in Adelaide between two Adelaide clubs that has absolutely nothing to do with you shouldn’t have any input from you. Plus surely you’ve got some bigger things on your off field plate at the moment.

It is a slippery slope.

Start with heritage round.

Then last game at footy park.

What about for clubs 150th anniversary, that get cancelled so how about showdown.

As we got it in a showdown, why not every home showdown?

If we can wear it in home showdowns, why not away showdowns?

If both showdowns, why not more games??

Only one AFL club plays in black n white stripes, simples.

And can anybody actually inform what an AFL game between Port Power and the Adelaide Crows has to do with a Port Magpies SANFL jumper??

The prison bars is about big clashes between Port Magpies and Norwood, not the Crows!!

 

[Heater3923]

Remember when Port booked a game against Gold Coast in China and then threw a tantrum when they realised Chinese people love red and gold, so Koshie had to threaten them not to wear it?

Yep, got it in one. The Power only cares about the Power.

They don’t give a shit about the heritage of other clubs. They don’t care that Fitzroy had to merge with the Bears so they could pinch their licence and enter the league. They didn’t care about any SA club other than themselves when they jettisoned the SANFL in 1990 to join the AFL.

I actually love the fact we ****ed them over and they can’t wear the pylon jumper. The poor man’s Collingwood jumper. I love that it drives them nuts and they fixate on it more so than on field performance.

Collingwood screwing the Power is just karma for the other 9 SANFL clubs that got screwed when Port jumped ship for the AFL. Even the side that got pushed out for the Power, Fitzroy, have a better grasp of their identity and respect for its heritage even as merged entity.

I mean basically, Collingwood out muscles them and forced them to drop their heritage, jumper, colours and team song in a heartbeat to sign up for massive licence fee while dreaming of more money in the AFL.

You know what the Powers heritage is worth to them? Nothing. They’ll actually pay ya millions in licence fees for the privilege of throwing their heritage in the tip.

Whereas at Collingwood, our heritage is priceless. We understand the value of our brand and we look after it.

 

[Heater3923]

It is a slippery slope.

Start with heritage round.

Then last game at footy park.

What about for clubs 150th anniversary, that get cancelled so how about showdown.

As we got it in a showdown, why not every home showdown?

If we can wear it in home showdowns, why not away showdowns?

If both showdowns, why not more games??

Only one AFL club plays in black n white stripes, simples.

And can anybody actually inform what an AFL game between Port Power and the Adelaide Crows has to do with a Port Magpies SANFL jumper??

The prison bars is about big clashes between Port Magpies and Norwood, not the Crows!!

Exactly. If the Power wear the pylons, then Crows should be able to wear the SA jumper from the 80s - seeing as they really were team SA when they started.

But you guessed it, the Power always have a sook when Adelaide wears anything close to resembling the SA jumper. Yet there current jumper is just a knock off of the SA one with black teal and white

 

[edgie]

Yeah for gimmick heritage rounds Port were able to play in old SANFL jumpers.

Just like Hawthorn cant just decide to play in Essendon style jumpers that they played in pre joining the VFL/AFL, Port cant play in black n white stripes despite them playing in them pre joining the VFL/AFL.

No other team uses magenta, blue and yellow....so if heritage is soooo important to Port why not use actual Port Adelaide heritage for AFL?

Except Port weren't allowed to play in the prison bar jumpers and had to use other less significant jumpers as alternatives. We could not use the ones we wanted to use.

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[Heater3923]

A lot of meaningless words from someone who has zero idea about Port Adelaide's identity.

Choco cares about Choco and feels that his personal legacy will be damaged if the Power brand is minimised in place of the Prison Bars. He's wrong, but mainly he's self interested.

You paid millions in AFL licensing fees for the privilege of throwing the magpies moniker, pylons jumper, colours and team song in the bin.

Your so called proud club didn’t value it’s history when it chased the lure of the almighty dollar in the AFL.

I know everything there is to know about your clubs identity. A schizophrenic club that’s identity has been split since when you assholed ur heritage for for teal and silver in 1997.

And speaking ill of Choco. A great captain of Collingwood and the only Port Adelaide Coach in over 150 years to win a cup that wasn’t second tier. That man is an immortal. How dare you even infer he’s selfish.

I’ll take Choco’s position over any light weight Power fan that clearly yearns for an era long ago, before it’s club identity was sold down the river for false promise of dominating on the national stage and economic growth

 

[parano1a]

You can't throwback to an imaginary guernsey that didn't exist.

Sure you can. It's call a fauxback.

 

[doppleganger]

Except Port weren't allowed to play in the prison bar jumpers and had to use other less significant jumpers as alternatives. We could not use the ones we wanted to use.

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In heritage round gimmick Port played in heritage jumpers. Like all clubs, Port first pulled out jumpers from turn on the century

First was a version of 1914 jumper, no number panel and stripes on the back.

Second was magenta jumper.

Third was the light blue and white hoops

By 4th or 5th year of the heritage gimmick not many clubs really had any worthwhile different heritage kits left...so AFL went with a 1970s heritage round. And Port played in the "bring back the bars" PBs jumper with white number panel and black back.

In the original heritage rounds when Port played in jumpers from the 1800s and early 1900s it wasnt the "bars"...the supposedly traditional Port prison bar jumper that Port played in before joining the AFL only came in the late 1950s.

 

[doppleganger]

Exactly. If the Power wear the pylons, then Crows should be able to wear the SA jumper from the 80s - seeing as they really were team SA when they started.

But you guessed it, the Power always have a sook when Adelaide wears anything close to resembling the SA jumper. Yet there current jumper is just a knock off of the SA one with black teal and white

Yep Adelaide should play in this for all showdowns....precedent is their, they played a heritage round game in a version of an SA state jumper.

Has just as much relevance to a showdown as the Port Magpies jumper does.

 

[edgie]

In heritage round gimmick Port played in heritage jumpers. Like all clubs, Port first pulled out jumpers from turn on the century

First was a version of 1914 jumper, no number panel and stripes on the back.

Second was magenta jumper.

Third was the light blue and white hoops

By 4th or 5th year of the heritage gimmick not many clubs really had any worthwhile different heritage kits left...so AFL went with a 1970s heritage round. And Port played in the "bring back the bars" PBs jumper with white number panel and black back.

In the original heritage rounds when Port played in jumpers from the 1800s and early 1900s it wasnt the "bars"...the supposedly traditional Port prison bar jumper that Port played in before joining the AFL only came in the late 1950s.

You miss the year we wanted to wear the PBs again but the man said no, how about you wear a training guernsey instead? And we said, get ****ed and didn't participate?

If we had anything resembling freedom to wear whatever we wanted for the heritage round, it would have been the prison bars and only the prison bars, every time it happened.

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[phantom13]

It is a slippery slope.

Start with heritage round.

Then last game at footy park.

What about for clubs 150th anniversary, that get cancelled so how about showdown.

As we got it in a showdown, why not every home showdown?

If we can wear it in home showdowns, why not away showdowns?

If both showdowns, why not more games??

Only one AFL club plays in black n white stripes, simples.

And can anybody actually inform what an AFL game between Port Power and the Adelaide Crows has to do with a Port Magpies SANFL jumper??

The prison bars is about big clashes between Port Magpies and Norwood, not the Crows!!

The slippery slope argument is pretty weak man. If it gets there it’s cause it gets accepted there, that’s just how those slippery slopes work.

For the sake of this argument if the deal could get done just for showdowns (and honestly who cares if they are home or away) would collingwood just accept it?

Given the original agreement was for heritage rounds (which no longer exist) it seems like a fair compromise (at least to just about everyone who doesn’t follow collingwood)

 

[Drewie11]

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Yep Adelaide should play in this for all showdowns....precedent is their, they played a heritage round game in a version of an SA state jumper.

Has just as much relevance to a showdown as the Port Magpies jumper does.

We tried that and our ugly cousin cracked the shits