Port AFL is not Port SANFL

[D_One]

I think Geelong Falcons could have beaten Port Power by 119 points in 2007

… and how would the Geelong Falcons have gone against Hawthorn in 2008?

 

[catspremiers2007]

… and how would the Geelong Falcons have gone against Hawthorn in 2008?

Dunno I haven't really put any thought into it.

 

[stoner]

Dunno I haven't really put any thought into it.

You never put any thought into anything.

 

[stoner]

I nearly choked when I first saw Victorian teams claiming their VFL premierships were the equivalent of AFL premierships. VFL - State league during a time when players had fulltime jobs = semi professional.
AFL = national league where listed players are soley that - players = fully professional.

Dont even try to claim that your previous premierships are the equivalent of the Premiership you got last year, they simply are not.

You are absolutely kidding yourself if you actually believe what you have written there. That is easily the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen - and there is certainly no shortage of ridiculous posts on the Bay with which to compare it with.

The VFL became the AFL - THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME THING. Just as the SAFA became the SAFL which became the SANFL (I think I've got it now).

The SANFL DID NOT become the VFL/AFL - it is a completely separate entity. Hence, Port Adelaide (I'll let you decide which one) CANNOT claim their past SAFA, SAFL or SANFL flags as AFL ones.

WE CAN!

So suck it up princess:

HAWTHORN FOOTBALL CLUB:

FORMED - 1873

AFL PREMIERSHIPS - 10

PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB:

FORMED - 1870

AFL PREMIERSHIPS - 1

 

[D_One]

You are absolutely kidding yourself if you actually believe what you have written there. That is easily the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen - and there is certainly no shortage of ridiculous posts on the Bay with which to compare it with.

The VFL became the AFL - THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME THING. Just as the SAFA became the SAFL which became the SANFL (I think I've got it now).

The SANFL DID NOT become the VFL/AFL - it is a completely separate entity. Hence, Port Adelaide (I'll let you decide which one) CANNOT claim their past SAFA, SAFL or SANFL flags as AFL ones.

WE CAN!

So suck it up princess:

HAWTHORN FOOTBALL CLUB:

FORMED - either 1873, 1889, 1893, 1902, 1905 or 1912.

VFL PREMIERSHIPS - 8
AFL PREMIERSHIPS - 2

PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB:

FORMED - 1870

SAFA/SAFL/SANFL PREMIERSHIPS - 34
AFL PREMIERSHIPS - 1

In 1916 Fitzroy won 2 home and away games and won the wooden spoon. They then won three finals to win the VFL state league premiership. So you consider Fitzroy’s 1916 premiers equal to Hawthorn’s 2008 premiership?

VFL premiership are not equal to an AFL premiership.

Heres a list of Senior Premierships won by all the AFL clubs

Port Adelaide - 34 SANFL, 1 AFL
Essendon - 4 VFA, 14 VFL, 2 AFL
Carlton - 2 VFA, 15 VFL, 1 AFL
Collingwood - 1 VFA, 13 VFL, 1 AFL
Geelong - 7 VFA, 6 VFL, 1 AFL
Richmond - 2 VFA, 10 VFL
Melbourne - 12 VFL
Nth Melb - 6 VFA, 2 VFL, 2 AFL
Hawthorn - 8 VFL, 2 AFL
Ftscry/Wstn Bdogs - 9 VFA, 1 VFL
Sydney/Sth Melb - 5 VFA, 3 VFL, 1 AFL
West Coast - 3 AFL
Brisbane Lions - 3 AFL
Adelaide - 2 AFL
St Kilda - 1 VFL
Fremantle - 0 AFL

 

[ZachPower]

Port Adelaide - 34 SANFL, 1 AFL
Essendon - 4 VFA, 14 VFL, 2 AFL
Carlton - 2 VFA, 15 VFL, 1 AFL
Collingwood - 1 VFA, 13 VFL, 1 AFL
Geelong - 7 VFA, 6 VFL, 1 AFL
Richmond - 2 VFA, 10 VFL
Melbourne - 12 VFL
Nth Melb - 6 VFA, 2 VFL, 2 AFL
Hawthorn - 8 VFL, 2 AFL
Ftscry/Wstn Bdogs - 9 VFA, 1 VFL
Sydney/Sth Melb - 5 VFA, 3 VFL, 1 AFL
West Coast - 3 AFL
Brisbane Lions - 3 AFL
Adelaide - 2 AFL
St Kilda - 1 VFL
Fremantle - 0 AFL

Can we just go by this and be happy?

Personally, I don't say we've got 35 premierships, I just say we are the most successful football club in Australia. - Which is true.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

I think Geelong Falcons could have beaten Port Power by 119 points in 2007

We sure didn't turn up to play that day.

Then again there's some people who think that's the only reason you won, given your past history of grand final disappointments. Sounds like you are one of them.

 

[stoner]

Can we just go by this and be happy?

No, we can’t, and here’s why:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremantle_Football_Club

“The Fremantle Football Hall of Legends was inaugurated by Fremantle Football Club in 1995, in recognition of the new AFL team’s links with its home city’s football heritage. The inductees are nominated by the two clubs from the Fremantle area in the WAFL: East Fremantle and South Fremantle. In time, players who represented Fremantle in the AFL will join their predecessors in this prestigious Hall.”

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/TheClub/History/tabid/8029/Default.aspx

“The rich football heritage in Fremantle dates back to 1885 when the premiership was contested by four clubs – Rovers (predecessor of the Perth Football Club), Victorians, Perth High School and Fremantle (wearing the infamous red and white playing strip).”

“East and South Fremantle have since gone on to forge one of the most intense rivalries in football, appearing in 70 WAFL grand finals with East winning 29 and South winning 11.”
“During the annual AFL heritage round, Fremantle wears a red and white playing uniform which is identical to the guernsey worn by the original Fremantle Football Club during their first premiership in 1885 and recognises the rich football heritage of Fremantle.”


By including premierships won by clubs in different leagues, we would opening ourselves up to all sorts of nonsense from this lot. Who knows where this would end???????


And secondly, (and hopefully finally), the VFA and SANFL are separate organisations to the VFL. The VFL is the AFL. You cannot count flags won in these competitions alongside those won in the VFL/AFL (as much as the Geelong fans would wish they could). In no table of VFL/AFL records will you find this to be the case.

 

[wambat]

Can we just go by this and be happy?

Personally, I don't say we've got 35 premierships, I just say we are the most successful football club in Australia. - Which is true.

Its sad your pathetic club cant build its own reputation.

 

[subaru]

Even if you're of the persuasion that Port Paaa are five minutes old, they still have a habit of clubbing West Coast like a baby seal.

12-5 overall including a 5-4 record at Subi.

This is what never ceases to amaze me about Port fans. The constant urge to regurgitate home and away stats against other clubs (oh, and the 34 flags issue) when it is really only the end result that matters...in this case WCE - 3 Cups and a one point GF loss

Powa - 1 Cup and a 119 point drubbing.

Now, be a good boy DT and pop back under your rock.

 

[subaru]

You are absolutely kidding yourself if you actually believe what you have written there. That is easily the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen - and there is certainly no shortage of ridiculous posts on the Bay with which to compare it with.

The VFL became the AFL - THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME THING. Just as the SAFA became the SAFL which became the SANFL (I think I've got it now).

The SANFL DID NOT become the VFL/AFL - it is a completely separate entity. Hence, Port Adelaide (I'll let you decide which one) CANNOT claim their past SAFA, SAFL or SANFL flags as AFL ones.

WE CAN!

So suck it up princess:

HAWTHORN FOOTBALL CLUB:

FORMED - 1873

AFL PREMIERSHIPS - 10

PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB:

FORMED - 1870

AFL PREMIERSHIPS - 1

They got no idea mate ...believe me ...none whatsoever.
They have a hundred and something years of history and 1 AFL flag? They want it both ways but it just doesn't work .The end.

 

[Ochre]

Can we just go by this and be happy?

Personally, I don't say we've got 35 premierships, I just say we are the most successful football club in Australia. - Which is true.

thered be a club in some competiton somewhere in australia with more than 35 flags so you arent the most successful football club in Australia.

 

[stoner]

They got no idea mate ...believe me ...none whatsoever.

Too right they got no idea. But what they do have is the most bizarre case of Bi-polar disorder I have ever come across.

They have two Port Adelaide's to pick from, but instead of just settling for one, they pick the best parts of each and 'hey presto', an instant club history that everyone should be in awe of.

Laughable really.

 

[tribey]

This is what never ceases to amaze me about Port fans. The constant urge to regurgitate home and away stats against other clubs.

The fact that I was refuting Wambat the West Coast fan's claim that Port can't 'build their own tradition' by pointing out that even if one does believe the Power is five minutes old they've still managed to own the Eagles (12-5 record since 1997 with a 5-4 record at WCE's home ground) like the soggy tea towel you carry around amazes you?

You've either lost a chromosome or you've found one.

 

[tribey]

Laughable really.

It is when you consider you really don't know enough about the issue to comment one way or the other.

If you did you'd just go for the simple superficial checkmate of pointing out that the Port Magpies got to inherit the original business licence by default, instead of regaling us all with the deductive skills of Inspector Clouseau.

 

[subaru]

Too right they got no idea. But what they do have is the most bizarre case of Bi-polar disorder I have ever come across.

They have two Port Adelaide's to pick from, but instead of just settling for one, they pick the best parts of each and 'hey presto', an instant club history that everyone should be in awe of.

Laughable really.

Bi-polar is a good description ..then throw in a mixture of inferiority complex, chip on the shoulder,identity crisis and miplaced arrogance and that pretty much sums them up.

 

[PowerKat]

Bi-polar is a good description ..then throw in a mixture of inferiority complex, chip on the shoulder,identity crisis and miplaced arrogance and that pretty much sums them up.

We supposedly have an inferiority complex and chip on the shoulder, yet we're arrogant? Regardless of your opinion, there is no "identity crisis" - only in your tiny mind. You're in denial. The club's identity has been clarified a number of times in this thread and others before. Your bias prevents you from seeing the facts that have been laid out before you.

Crows fans continue to distract from the issue at hand with repetitive comments about our performance in recent years and the club's marketing slant(s) since moving into the AFL, combined with lots of other attempts to twist facts and make garbled interpretations of history. It seems they have a chip on their shoulder and their view is blinkered by their sole objective to discredit the PAFC's history. None of this daily drivel changes the facts of the matter, in that the "Port Adelaide Football Club, est 1870" moved from the SANFL competition and started playing in the AFL in 1997.

Before moving to the AFL, the PAFC won 34 premierships. The success achieved in the club's history is a key reason that they won the licence bid. That success is relevant because it is part of the history of the club and anyone who follows the club is proud of that history. There's no valid reason to just ignore it now that very same club is playing in another league. There is nothing 'inferior' or 'arrogant' in supporters of the PAFC acknowledging these facts. Funnily enough, we'd hardly ever talk about it if it wasn't for the ridiculous attempts by Adelaide fans (and the occasional ignorant supporter from other clubs) to discount The PAFC has always been the PAFC and remains the PAFC now that the club is part of the AFL competition.

 

[Sekaj]

Can we just go by this and be happy?

Personally, I don't say we've got 35 premierships, I just say we are the most successful football club in Australia. - Which is true.

The most successful football club in Australia has less AFL premierships than the Crows - Which is true.

 

[Sekaj]

We sure didn't turn up to play that day.

Why not? What happened to the 'creed'?

 

[Sekaj]

Just some clarification on what the Power supporters are saying in this thread:
- SANFL premierships are equal to AFL premierships
- VFL premierships are NOT equal to AFL premierships
- 1997 & 1998 AFL premierships are also NOT equal to AFL premierships

Happy to help.

 

[Damp Squarie]

Just some clarification on what the Power supporters are saying in this thread:
- SANFL premierships are equal to AFL premierships
- VFL premierships are NOT equal to AFL premierships
- 1997 & 1998 AFL premierships are also NOT equal to AFL premierships

Happy to help.

Hang on ya missed one!
Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club and Port Adelaide Power Football Club are equal to each other

 

[Mr Magoo]

You have to laugh at some of the people who barrack for Adelaide. A good friend of mine tells me all the time that he would never barrack for Port Adelaide in the afl.

I then asked why he hated this Port Adelaide team so much if they are supposedly a brand new team with no history & he wouldn't answer me.

He uses all the same arguments that the crows fans on here use, but can't tell me why he hates/dislikes a team so much that according to him has a history that is just a touch over eleven years old.

 

[Sekaj]

You have to laugh at some of the people who barrack for Adelaide. A good friend of mine tells me all the time that he would never barrack for Port Adelaide in the afl.

I then asked why he hated this Port Adelaide team so much if they are supposedly a brand new team with no history & he wouldn't answer me.

He uses all the same arguments that the crows fans on here use, but can't tell me why he hates/dislikes a team so much that according to him has a history that is just a touch over eleven years old.

Hate is such a strong word. I don't hate the Power. I prefer to use their failures and hysterical slogans as a source of constant amusement.

And just for the record, I was initially ambivalent about the Power when I first supported the Crows. It was only after witnessing their humiliations (chokes, 119, dream final, etc) while listening to their constant bleating of 'we exist to win premierships with our creed and revolution' that I began to find them increasingly hilarious.

 

[Damp Squarie]

You have to laugh at some of the people who barrack for Adelaide. A good friend of mine tells me all the time that he would never barrack for Port Adelaide in the afl.

I then asked why he hated this Port Adelaide team so much if they are supposedly a brand new team with no history & he wouldn't answer me.

He uses all the same arguments that the crows fans on here use, but can't tell me why he hates/dislikes a team so much that according to him has a history that is just a touch over eleven years old.

History doesnt factor into my 'dislike' [Cant use the word hate either unless Im talking about the white blue ringed octopus socks] for Port Power because after all, they are minnows.

Its some of the rockape supporters/players/coach that keep trying to ride on another teams history with thier pompous comments.

Let it go and be proud of your "history post 1996

 

[tribey]

History doesnt factor into my 'dislike' [Cant use the word hate either unless Im talking about the white blue ringed octopus socks] for Port Power because after all, they are minnows.

What a load of crap, Gary. You're like every other bruised, battered and psychologically scarred Crows regular obsessed with Port Adelaide around here.

You grew up seeing Port Adelaide repeatedly hand you your arse and it reamed your brain stem to the point where highlighting the club's failures on the national stage is more important to you than showing your love for the club you supposedly support.

Its some of the rockape supporters/players/coach that keep trying to ride on another teams history with thier pompous comments.

So you're like some kind of demented superhero, keeping the world safe from big bad Port people from the sanctuary of your keyboard?

Let it go and be proud of your "history post 1996

Nah, how about you let go? Honestly. Between you, Sekaj and Subaru you're like a trio of special people who take delight in smearing each other in your fecal matter whenever Port indirectly rattles your cage.

If not, I'm sure we all look forward to your next Paintbrush masterpiece.